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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

edit: Reading comprehension fail.

Not as bad as the 2005 draft though Laughing

I don't see Tarvaris Jackson. I think it is safe to put him in column B
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Ron Yary, '68 round 1, pick 1. HOF 2001.
Ed White, '69, round 2, pick 39.


I anticipate this thread will eventually meander toward TJax, Gerhart, Webb, ...

.... so let's not forget the #1s, #2s, and #3s that were not selected b/c of the trade for Herschel Walker... Rolling Eyes

and the #1 relinquished for Jared Allen. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Purplexing wrote:
Ron Yary, '68 round 1, pick 1. HOF 2001.
Ed White, '69, round 2, pick 39.


I anticipate this thread will eventually meander toward TJax, Gerhart, Webb, ...

.... so let's not forget the #1s, #2s, and #3s that were not selected b/c of the trade for Herschel Walker... Rolling Eyes

and the #1 relinquished for Jared Allen. Very Happy


Yeah, it might go to those guys, but Gerhart isn't a bad player, just not a needed player, and Webb was a 6th, so anything from him in terms of production is good, the one game against Philly made drafting him worthwhile. TJax, definitely could go on the list, but so could much of that draft.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No way Darren Nelson is one of the worst picks ever. No way.

Nelson is, by default, a horrible draft pick based on who went two picks after him.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Gnat wrote:
TJax, definitely could go on the list, but so could much of that draft.

but probably only because he was drafted in the 2nd round, which wasn't his responsibility. he certainly didn't pan out but he was an average starter for awhile, which is a greater contribution that a lot of other guys were.
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Derrick Alexander should be #1 on the worst drafted list, just for who the team passed on.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many great and not so great draft picks throughout the years. I'm pretty content with the Adrian Peterson pick. He has turned out okay so far. Smile
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All signs point to drafting defensive backs in the 1st or very early in the 2nd. 2nd and 3rd rounders fail too often.

It's not only a Vikings trait either.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

swiss_vike wrote:
All signs point to drafting defensive backs in the 1st or very early in the 2nd. 2nd and 3rd rounders fail too often.

It's not only a Vikings trait either.


2nd Round CB's are basically as successful as first, at least in terms of finding a multiyear starter, after that though the success rate does decline rapidly.

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Cornerbacks:

1st Round: 60%
Total: 47

2nd Round: 74%
Total: 42

3rd Round: 20%
Total: 40

4th Round: 25%
Total: 40

5th Round: 12%
Total: 34

6th Round: 7%
Total: 28

7th Round: 20%
Total: 29


With % being success rate, there was a higher standard of play on the first round, this takes in a 10 year period from 1999 to 2009 (or possibly through 2009).
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryan Cook, anyone?

Nelson started and contributed to many successfull teams, and had a decent length career for a RB. It is ridiculous to say he was a bad pick because of who came a couple picks later. How many players were chosen in front of Tom Brady?

And, even if he had caught that ball, he would have been tackled short of the goal line. It was an awful play all around.
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PrplChilPill wrote:
Ryan Cook, anyone?


That can't be a complete failure, he's still playing for the Cowboys. Wink I can agree that it was a worthless pick, considering they essentially got him in exchange for Daunte.
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disaacs wrote:
PrplChilPill wrote:
Ryan Cook, anyone?


That can't be a complete failure, he's still playing for the Cowboys. Wink I can agree that it was a worthless pick, considering they essentially got him in exchange for Daunte.


Before the draft he was projected to go in round 5 or 6.....
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PrplChilPill wrote:
Nelson started and contributed to many successfull teams, and had a decent length career for a RB. It is ridiculous to say he was a bad pick because of who came a couple picks later. How many players were chosen in front of Tom Brady?

And, even if he had caught that ball, he would have been tackled short of the goal line. It was an awful play all around.

I'm treating this exercise as an indictment on the people doing the drafting and not the players. Nelson was indeed a good player, but did he deserve to be drafted over Marcus Allen? Particularly after the season Allen had at USC leading up to the draft.
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PrplChilPill wrote:
Before the draft [Ryan Cook] was projected to go in round 5 or 6.....

and Fran Foley was projected to still have a job six weeks after the draft.

Wink
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rpmwr19 wrote:
I'm treating this exercise as an indictment on the people doing the drafting and not the players.

the drafting of Demetrius Underwood would classify for both.
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