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With all the Linemen we brought in via free agency and the draft it seems to me that its going to be very hard for Carimi to make the team. Missing otas and more importantly reps will limit his chances significantly. I think it's only a matter of time till he's cut.


I would be pretty disappointed if they cut him this quickly. There are too many other options and ways to keep him to see if he fully recovers from his injury, IMO. If they cut him this year, it needs to be well down the road, if at all. There are many players, even at other positions, that I would rather see cut since they are known quantities at this point.

Raise your hand if you would not be disappointed if we got rid of him now and he went on to be a respectable player elsewhere.
Why? Why on earth do you want to hang on to him if the coaching staff is convinced he can't play and he's just a wasted roster spot at this point. If he goes on to be a great player for somebody else, oh well. I certainly don't second guess the Bears cutting Marc Columbo when he was never healthy, regardless of what he eventually turned into w/ Dallas. I wish Gabe well, but if he can't play, he can't play. And everytime I look at the Roster the same thing keeps proving true, there's no way Carimi can make this roster this year.


...because you don't cut a first round draft pick in the first round of cuts when his potential is unknown? Nowhere in my post did I say we should keep him if he cannot play. My argument is that we do not know whether or not he can play. That is NOT a determination that can be made TODAY, or before TC. Right now we have five guards (don't insult my intelligence by arguing that Garza is a guard...and JB is said to be competing with Webb at RT): Long, Slauson, Carimi, Williams, and Britton.

If you look at it from the team's view, Williams is most valuable due to his versatility unless something better comes along among the first round of cuts. Britton has about the same chance of making the roster as Carimi. I think you make that cut (or cuts) later in the off season since there is no way in hell to say whether or not Carimi can play WHEN HEALTHY.
His potential isn't unknown tho, what we've seen in the pros is the EXACT SAME THING we saw in college. He's EXTREMELY slow-footed, isn't a great athlete, has a real nice strong initial punch, but isn't a great technician. Will always give 100% effort, but against Elite players, his 100% isn't good enough. This is what I noted when I evaluated him and said BEFORE HE WAS DRAFTED I believed he would ultimately end up moving to OG b/c he couldn't handle the speed on the outside. His potential is a servicable OG. If Carimi had been drafted in the 2nd or 3rd round like he should have been based on tape and not being friends w/ Mike Tice's son, would you still be holding out hope for him? If the answer is no, then you need to admit to yourself its time to cut bait and move on.
Being friends with Mike Tice's son had nothing to do with him being drafted.
Well that's not true at all. How do we know it played a role w/ him being drafted in the first round by the Bears? Well, Mike Tice told us so right after we drafted him. He said he felt like he knew more about Carimi than any other OT in the draft b/c of his relationship w/ his son, and all the times he's watched Wisconsin b/c of his son. Teams were not faling over themselves trying to draft Gabe Carimi, the Bears not only drafted him, they tried to trade up to draft him earlier.
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It's more along the lines of your willingness to vomit words out every time you can.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IronMike84 wrote:
This is just speculation, but perhaps Carimi is just staying away to buy time to get as healthy as possible. OTAs are voluntary after all, and it's not like a 100% healthy Carimi doesn't have a fair shot at beating out the guys who are competing for backup spots.


Chicago Tribune reported just that, and was cited in NFL.com.

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The former first-round pick has been spending his days at the O-Line Performance Academy in Arizona, a clinic run by former Pro Bowl lineman LeCharles Bentley.

"Any time a player opts to make an investment in himself that is outside the scope of what the team expects, that's a gamble," said Bentley, according to The Chicago Tribune. "That's sometimes a risk that players have to be willing to take. Sometimes, when guys are in a situation like Gabe, maybe the player feels comfortable betting on himself.

"Now, where it gets a little sketchy, you can't go back and be OK. You can't go back and be good. You've got to go back and be damn good. That's where the pressure falls back onto the player and, to be quite frank, that is where it belongs. Let these guys stand up and man up for themselves. These are their careers. If Gabe Carimi is going to be labeled as a bust, let this man do it on his own terms."
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Carimi has history with Bentley, who trained him in the months before the Bears used the 29th overall pick to secure his services at offensive tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft. He bounced from right tackle to guard last season, and is not guaranteed a job on a Chicago offensive line that's been revamped through free agency and the draft.

"Gabe is, I think, exactly where he needs to be in terms of the mental state," Bentley said. "There are so many different layers to this thing. He is that point, 'I want to fight. I want to play and I want to show people that I can be a first-round talent that I was drafted as. I'm not going to leave my career as a bust.'

"He's hungry to prove people wrong and has taken time and work for him to get to this point mentally and physically. He is light years from where he was."

We'll find out if that's enough to give him a chance at a redemptive season at Soldier Field.


If he is working on gaining strength and speed back, and is working to get back to the player he was suppose to be, I don't worry too much about him missing the voluntary camps. Kromer will get him up to speed and it is not like he won't be able to review calls, protections, etc daily. That is one thing Trestman and Kromer will no doubt have taken care of by the season opener.

You don't learn a whole offense during the voluntary workouts, not even half of it, the actual training camps and preseason will be the big bulk of to learn and work through, and even throughout the season there will be more and more added onto it. Some are looking like he will be SO FAR behind, but he will have only missed a small portion should he show up from the first mandatory OTAs on. Kromer will see in just 5-6 weeks of work if he thinks he can sculpt a solid lineman out of him.

I just find it funny some say they KNOW he will or won't be on the team or have a slot, but somehow Emery, Trestman, and Kromer don't. . We must have some prestigious posters here. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sugashane wrote:
IronMike84 wrote:
This is just speculation, but perhaps Carimi is just staying away to buy time to get as healthy as possible. OTAs are voluntary after all, and it's not like a 100% healthy Carimi doesn't have a fair shot at beating out the guys who are competing for backup spots.


Chicago Tribune reported just that, and was cited in NFL.com.

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The former first-round pick has been spending his days at the O-Line Performance Academy in Arizona, a clinic run by former Pro Bowl lineman LeCharles Bentley.

"Any time a player opts to make an investment in himself that is outside the scope of what the team expects, that's a gamble," said Bentley, according to The Chicago Tribune. "That's sometimes a risk that players have to be willing to take. Sometimes, when guys are in a situation like Gabe, maybe the player feels comfortable betting on himself.

"Now, where it gets a little sketchy, you can't go back and be OK. You can't go back and be good. You've got to go back and be damn good. That's where the pressure falls back onto the player and, to be quite frank, that is where it belongs. Let these guys stand up and man up for themselves. These are their careers. If Gabe Carimi is going to be labeled as a bust, let this man do it on his own terms."
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Carimi has history with Bentley, who trained him in the months before the Bears used the 29th overall pick to secure his services at offensive tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft. He bounced from right tackle to guard last season, and is not guaranteed a job on a Chicago offensive line that's been revamped through free agency and the draft.

"Gabe is, I think, exactly where he needs to be in terms of the mental state," Bentley said. "There are so many different layers to this thing. He is that point, 'I want to fight. I want to play and I want to show people that I can be a first-round talent that I was drafted as. I'm not going to leave my career as a bust.'

"He's hungry to prove people wrong and has taken time and work for him to get to this point mentally and physically. He is light years from where he was."

We'll find out if that's enough to give him a chance at a redemptive season at Soldier Field.


If he is working on gaining strength and speed back, and is working to get back to the player he was suppose to be, I don't worry too much about him missing the voluntary camps. Kromer will get him up to speed and it is not like he won't be able to review calls, protections, etc daily. That is one thing Trestman and Kromer will no doubt have taken care of by the season opener.

You don't learn a whole offense during the voluntary workouts, not even half of it, the actual training camps and preseason will be the big bulk of to learn and work through, and even throughout the season there will be more and more added onto it. Some are looking like he will be SO FAR behind, but he will have only missed a small portion should he show up from the first mandatory OTAs on. Kromer will see in just 5-6 weeks of work if he thinks he can sculpt a solid lineman out of him.

I just find it funny some say they KNOW he will or won't be on the team or have a slot, but somehow Emery, Trestman, and Kromer don't. . We must have some prestigious posters here. Laughing
You really think as meticulous, thourough, and prepared Emery and Trestman are, that they don't have a real good idea in their head who the 53 are right now? And every rep Carimi misses right now, is another rep he's behind Slauson, Long, Brown, and Mills. He's changing positions on top of that. Its pretty clear he understands the writing is on the wall, which is why he's "holding out" of voluntary workouts.
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First off, I am not trying to get into the p----ing match with Superman. Nevertheless, it sounds like Carimi has his head on straight despite the physical limitations he has faced the last two years. I hope he does well. It would be nice if he could figure out a way to make the team. If not, he will get a chance somewhere else. I'd bet the farm on that.

It seems that it would be foolish for the Bears not to bet on their new staff by cutting him. Now, if he showed up to training camp and played miserably, that might be a whole different story. As far as I am concerned, by reading the article it sounds like he has taken this whole situation very seriously and done everything within his power to address it head on. He may not be at camp now, but he is working on becoming a better lineman five days out of the week and was working seven days previously.

I am a true believer in, "it ain't over till the fat lady sings." The Bears having no financial incentive to get rid of him, combined with a staff that may believe they can coach him up, could be enough for him to breathe second life into his career as a Bear. Stranger things have happened.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-05-20/sports/ct-spt-0521-bears-gabe-carimi-chicago-20130521_1_gabe-carimi-j-marcus-webb-general-manager-phil-emery
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Interesting that at OTAs Lance Briggs says Mel Tucker is using the verbiage from under Lovie and Rod rather than his ownI think its pretty clear now that this D isnt going to change much at all.
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Madmike90 wrote:
Interesting that at OTAs Lance Briggs says Mel Tucker is using the verbiage from under Lovie and Rod rather than his ownI think its pretty clear now that this D isnt going to change much at all.


I remember when he was hired he said he was essentially going to do as you point out. I would imagine, though, that he will throw some wrinkles in here and there, as well. However, I think that for the most part as long as they can make things work retaining some of the philosophies from the last regime that taking the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" approach is a prudent move, particularly to get buy-in from the veterans.
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Madmike90 wrote:
Interesting that at OTAs Lance Briggs says Mel Tucker is using the verbiage from under Lovie and Rod rather than his ownI think its pretty clear now that this D isnt going to change much at all.


He said he was going to use the time he had from when he was hired to the first camp to learn our defense/verbiage. I thought that was pretty awesome.
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Superman(DH23) wrote:
Sugashane wrote:
IronMike84 wrote:
This is just speculation, but perhaps Carimi is just staying away to buy time to get as healthy as possible. OTAs are voluntary after all, and it's not like a 100% healthy Carimi doesn't have a fair shot at beating out the guys who are competing for backup spots.


Chicago Tribune reported just that, and was cited in NFL.com.

Quote:
The former first-round pick has been spending his days at the O-Line Performance Academy in Arizona, a clinic run by former Pro Bowl lineman LeCharles Bentley.

"Any time a player opts to make an investment in himself that is outside the scope of what the team expects, that's a gamble," said Bentley, according to The Chicago Tribune. "That's sometimes a risk that players have to be willing to take. Sometimes, when guys are in a situation like Gabe, maybe the player feels comfortable betting on himself.

"Now, where it gets a little sketchy, you can't go back and be OK. You can't go back and be good. You've got to go back and be damn good. That's where the pressure falls back onto the player and, to be quite frank, that is where it belongs. Let these guys stand up and man up for themselves. These are their careers. If Gabe Carimi is going to be labeled as a bust, let this man do it on his own terms."
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Carimi has history with Bentley, who trained him in the months before the Bears used the 29th overall pick to secure his services at offensive tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft. He bounced from right tackle to guard last season, and is not guaranteed a job on a Chicago offensive line that's been revamped through free agency and the draft.

"Gabe is, I think, exactly where he needs to be in terms of the mental state," Bentley said. "There are so many different layers to this thing. He is that point, 'I want to fight. I want to play and I want to show people that I can be a first-round talent that I was drafted as. I'm not going to leave my career as a bust.'

"He's hungry to prove people wrong and has taken time and work for him to get to this point mentally and physically. He is light years from where he was."

We'll find out if that's enough to give him a chance at a redemptive season at Soldier Field.


If he is working on gaining strength and speed back, and is working to get back to the player he was suppose to be, I don't worry too much about him missing the voluntary camps. Kromer will get him up to speed and it is not like he won't be able to review calls, protections, etc daily. That is one thing Trestman and Kromer will no doubt have taken care of by the season opener.

You don't learn a whole offense during the voluntary workouts, not even half of it, the actual training camps and preseason will be the big bulk of to learn and work through, and even throughout the season there will be more and more added onto it. Some are looking like he will be SO FAR behind, but he will have only missed a small portion should he show up from the first mandatory OTAs on. Kromer will see in just 5-6 weeks of work if he thinks he can sculpt a solid lineman out of him.

I just find it funny some say they KNOW he will or won't be on the team or have a slot, but somehow Emery, Trestman, and Kromer don't. . We must have some prestigious posters here. Laughing
You really think as meticulous, thourough, and prepared Emery and Trestman are, that they don't have a real good idea in their head who the 53 are right now? And every rep Carimi misses right now, is another rep he's behind Slauson, Long, Brown, and Mills. He's changing positions on top of that. Its pretty clear he understands the writing is on the wall, which is why he's "holding out" of voluntary workouts.


On the contrary, I think they have a great idea, I don't think YOU do. I think THEY have the understanding of the importance of positional battles, while you have your own mind made up before mandatory camps.

You also seem to forget Long, Britton, and Mills are also switching to guard from tackle. Carimi will still have more experience than any of them at guard (maybe not Britton, I think he played 4-5 games at guard last year, still not enough to gain a huge advantage) when he gets in for the mandatory camp. Last year Pro Football Focus graded him out at a -14.3 while playing right tackle, and at +4.2 as a right guard.

Let's look at the facts, Long has zero NFL experience (though Emery and Co have him rated as the most athletic OG in the last 12 drafts, and while you state Carimi was overdrafted, most would say Long was as well). Long was drafted on potential, not for a proven track record. Brown was completely underwhelming (as to be expected of an undrafted rookie, he needs more time to develop), and Mills has no experience in the NFL as well, nor has he played guard from what I have read. Slauson is the only one who has a any noteworthy experience in the NFL, but we signed him for a paltry $815,000. That alone shows that there was not a real demand for him. Yes, he gave up zero sacks last year, but no, he did not perform well enough to warrant even a million dollar contract, nor even a 2 year deal. While he seems a clear upgrade over Rachal, Spenser and Brown, that is not exactly high praise. That is merely saying he is not terrible.

So you are set saying that you know Carimi's ceiling after he was playing on a knee that was not likely fully healed and possibly weakened? Laughable. Of course I am sure you have the inside track with the trainers as well... But you are comfortable with 2 rookies, Britton (who is also lacking experience at guard and underwhelmed at tackle) and an undrafted second year player battling it out for the second guard position and being our back ups? You just throw away any competition to see if one can outplay the other? That is a terrible lack of logic. Emery and Co already knew they were going to cut Carimi, why would they wait? Why wouldn't they have let him go or even tried to get a 6th or 7th out of him?

I agree Kromer is a great mind and will accelerate the learning curve, but our interior line is not proven by any means (Garza is also an average C at best, let's be honest), and they are not shortsighted enough to cut him if they think there is a chance they can add any drop of talent to that group.
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Sugashane wrote:
Superman(DH23) wrote:
Sugashane wrote:
IronMike84 wrote:
This is just speculation, but perhaps Carimi is just staying away to buy time to get as healthy as possible. OTAs are voluntary after all, and it's not like a 100% healthy Carimi doesn't have a fair shot at beating out the guys who are competing for backup spots.


Chicago Tribune reported just that, and was cited in NFL.com.

Quote:
The former first-round pick has been spending his days at the O-Line Performance Academy in Arizona, a clinic run by former Pro Bowl lineman LeCharles Bentley.

"Any time a player opts to make an investment in himself that is outside the scope of what the team expects, that's a gamble," said Bentley, according to The Chicago Tribune. "That's sometimes a risk that players have to be willing to take. Sometimes, when guys are in a situation like Gabe, maybe the player feels comfortable betting on himself.

"Now, where it gets a little sketchy, you can't go back and be OK. You can't go back and be good. You've got to go back and be damn good. That's where the pressure falls back onto the player and, to be quite frank, that is where it belongs. Let these guys stand up and man up for themselves. These are their careers. If Gabe Carimi is going to be labeled as a bust, let this man do it on his own terms."
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Carimi has history with Bentley, who trained him in the months before the Bears used the 29th overall pick to secure his services at offensive tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft. He bounced from right tackle to guard last season, and is not guaranteed a job on a Chicago offensive line that's been revamped through free agency and the draft.

"Gabe is, I think, exactly where he needs to be in terms of the mental state," Bentley said. "There are so many different layers to this thing. He is that point, 'I want to fight. I want to play and I want to show people that I can be a first-round talent that I was drafted as. I'm not going to leave my career as a bust.'

"He's hungry to prove people wrong and has taken time and work for him to get to this point mentally and physically. He is light years from where he was."

We'll find out if that's enough to give him a chance at a redemptive season at Soldier Field.


If he is working on gaining strength and speed back, and is working to get back to the player he was suppose to be, I don't worry too much about him missing the voluntary camps. Kromer will get him up to speed and it is not like he won't be able to review calls, protections, etc daily. That is one thing Trestman and Kromer will no doubt have taken care of by the season opener.

You don't learn a whole offense during the voluntary workouts, not even half of it, the actual training camps and preseason will be the big bulk of to learn and work through, and even throughout the season there will be more and more added onto it. Some are looking like he will be SO FAR behind, but he will have only missed a small portion should he show up from the first mandatory OTAs on. Kromer will see in just 5-6 weeks of work if he thinks he can sculpt a solid lineman out of him.

I just find it funny some say they KNOW he will or won't be on the team or have a slot, but somehow Emery, Trestman, and Kromer don't. . We must have some prestigious posters here. Laughing
You really think as meticulous, thourough, and prepared Emery and Trestman are, that they don't have a real good idea in their head who the 53 are right now? And every rep Carimi misses right now, is another rep he's behind Slauson, Long, Brown, and Mills. He's changing positions on top of that. Its pretty clear he understands the writing is on the wall, which is why he's "holding out" of voluntary workouts.


On the contrary, I think they have a great idea, I don't think YOU do. I think THEY have the understanding of the importance of positional battles, while you have your own mind made up before mandatory camps.

You also seem to forget Long, Britton, and Mills are also switching to guard from tackle. Carimi will still have more experience than any of them at guard (maybe not Britton, I think he played 4-5 games at guard last year, still not enough to gain a huge advantage) when he gets in for the mandatory camp. Last year Pro Football Focus graded him out at a -14.3 while playing right tackle, and at +4.2 as a right guard.

Let's look at the facts, Long has zero NFL experience (though Emery and Co have him rated as the most athletic OG in the last 12 drafts, and while you state Carimi was overdrafted, most would say Long was as well). Long was drafted on potential, not for a proven track record. Brown was completely underwhelming (as to be expected of an undrafted rookie, he needs more time to develop), and Mills has no experience in the NFL as well, nor has he played guard from what I have read. Slauson is the only one who has a any noteworthy experience in the NFL, but we signed him for a paltry $815,000. That alone shows that there was not a real demand for him. Yes, he gave up zero sacks last year, but no, he did not perform well enough to warrant even a million dollar contract, nor even a 2 year deal. While he seems a clear upgrade over Rachal, Spenser and Brown, that is not exactly high praise. That is merely saying he is not terrible.

So you are set saying that you know Carimi's ceiling after he was playing on a knee that was not likely fully healed and possibly weakened? Laughable. Of course I am sure you have the inside track with the trainers as well... But you are comfortable with 2 rookies, Britton (who is also lacking experience at guard and underwhelmed at tackle) and an undrafted second year player battling it out for the second guard position and being our back ups? You just throw away any competition to see if one can outplay the other? That is a terrible lack of logic. Emery and Co already knew they were going to cut Carimi, why would they wait? Why wouldn't they have let him go or even tried to get a 6th or 7th out of him?

I agree Kromer is a great mind and will accelerate the learning curve, but our interior line is not proven by any means (Garza is also an average C at best, let's be honest), and they are not shortsighted enough to cut him if they think there is a chance they can add any drop of talent to that group.
You couldn't get a 7th in this past draft for Gabe Carimi. And I'll give you a reason easy answer as to why they haven't cut him yet, they don't have to. They save no money by cutting him now as opposed to roster cutdowns. They are allowed 80 players on the roster, there are at least 27 players on the current roster that aren't going to make the team. Not a single one of those players costs the team a dime this year until they play their first regular season game. Gabe Carimi not attending OTAs has nothing to do with health, according to his own admission, he's working on becoming a better lineman. He's working out w/ the same group that he worked out with prior to the draft, rather than working with the brand new coaching staff w/ a new system being implemented. No there is no statement by either side that says Gabe is going to be cut, but the writing on the wall is pretty damn clear.
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More Onobun love - this time from Dan Pompeii. If we're lucky, maybe the switch finally flipped for him. Can't hurt that he has his long time friend Bennett as a teammate.

Should I go buy my Onobun jersey?

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You have to be cautious about what you see from a football team when buds still are on the trees and pads still are in the lockers.

But if there is one of the Bears you should know about who's mostly unknown, it's Fendi Onobun.

There is no question the tight end has been an offseason standout. And if he performs as well in training camp as he has in the offseason, he will have a significant role on the team. And he will be an offensive weapon.

...


http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/ct-spt-0522-pompei-bears-chicago-20130522,0,3812477.column

Please only quote a portion of the linked article.

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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudderfudder77 wrote:
More Onobun love - this time from Dan Pompeii. If we're lucky, maybe the switch finally flipped for him. Can't hurt that he has his long time friend Bennett as a teammate.

Should I go buy my Onobun jersey?

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You have to be cautious about what you see from a football team when buds still are on the trees and pads still are in the lockers.

But if there is one of the Bears you should know about who's mostly unknown, it's Fendi Onobun.

There is no question the tight end has been an offseason standout. And if he performs as well in training camp as he has in the offseason, he will have a significant role on the team. And he will be an offensive weapon.

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/ct-spt-0522-pompei-bears-chicago-20130522,0,3812477.column

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I watched his snaps as a Ram... he moves well with his pads on but I think he's not very good at lowering his head into contact. Needs a LOT of work on his blocking.

But hey, if you want to use Martellus as the blocking/receiving TE and only send this kid out for routes, I can't say I'd hate it IF he continues his success in camp.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudderfudder77 wrote:
Should I go buy my Onobun jersey?

The Bears are still stocked on Devin Aromashodu jerseys, the result of fans prematurely making stars out of guys who don't deserve it.

http://store.chicagobears.com/Devin-Aromashodu-19-1940s-Replica-Throwback-Jersey.aspx
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IronMike84 wrote:
Mudderfudder77 wrote:
Should I go buy my Onobun jersey?

The Bears are still stocked on Devin Aromashodu jerseys, the result of fans prematurely making stars out of guys who don't deserve it.

http://store.chicagobears.com/Devin-Aromashodu-19-1940s-Replica-Throwback-Jersey.aspx



That item is currently out of stock dammit. Wish they'd update their website/webstore.
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