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Larry Warford OR Damontre Moore
Larry Warford
69%
 69%  [ 9 ]
Damontre Moore
30%
 30%  [ 4 ]
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LuckyNumber11


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apollo14000 wrote:
LuckyNumber11 wrote:
DJ_Fka wrote:
One game does not make a career


Plus we have already acknowledged the fact that Moore has a terrible work ethic and likely takes plays off (At least that's the impression I get)


Moore actually has a very good motor on the field. He doesn't take plays off. He's just lazy off the field.


I in all honesty haven't seen that much of him, just read about him mostly. You'd probably know more than I.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moore was touted top 5 pick 3 months ago

That was based on game tape.

Then the whispers start and he is suddenly 2nd or 3rd round

It boggles the mind that he falls and then someone with poor tape and good combine *cough* Lane Johnson *cough* rises like a phoenix.

Go figure
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJ_Fka wrote:
Moore was touted top 5 pick 3 months ago

That was based on game tape.

Then the whispers start and he is suddenly 2nd or 3rd round

It boggles the mind that he falls and then someone with poor tape and good combine *cough* Lane Johnson *cough* rises like a phoenix.

Go figure


agreed
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJ_Fka wrote:
Moore was touted top 5 pick 3 months ago

That was based on game tape.

Then the whispers start and he is suddenly 2nd or 3rd round

It boggles the mind that he falls and then someone with poor tape and good combine *cough* Lane Johnson *cough* rises like a phoenix.

Go figure


Who touted him as a top 5 pick. THE MEDIA.
Who touted Johnson as a riser. THE MEDIA.

Also, if you think Lane Johnson has poor tape, you're gonna have a bad time.

Moore was NEVER a top 5 pick, Johnson was NEVER thought of as low as some beleive.

In the end the media catches up to where the teams are grading people; Moore was likely a mid first round guy, a 15-20 sort of a pick and then he had a terrible combine that propelled him into the top edge of the second round. Johnson was an early 2nd type of guy, he had a great combine that flash athleticism and really nice footwork. so he improves his stock some.

Remember when the media was touting Manti Te'o as a top five pick based on game film?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
DJ_Fka wrote:
Moore was touted top 5 pick 3 months ago

That was based on game tape.

Then the whispers start and he is suddenly 2nd or 3rd round

It boggles the mind that he falls and then someone with poor tape and good combine *cough* Lane Johnson *cough* rises like a phoenix.

Go figure


Who touted him as a top 5 pick. THE MEDIA.
Who touted Johnson as a riser. THE MEDIA.

Also, if you think Lane Johnson has poor tape, you're gonna have a bad time.

Moore was NEVER a top 5 pick, Johnson was NEVER thought of as low as some beleive.

In the end the media catches up to where the teams are grading people; Moore was likely a mid first round guy, a 15-20 sort of a pick and then he had a terrible combine that propelled him into the top edge of the second round. Johnson was an early 2nd type of guy, he had a great combine that flash athleticism and really nice footwork. so he improves his stock some.

Remember when the media was touting Manti Te'o as a top five pick based on game film?


I just keep thinking about
Bruce Campbell and Vernon Gholston when I hear they had an amazing combine.

Not overly high on Moore but if he is there in the 2nd or even 3rd.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce Campbell

Better as an actor than a football player.

Mike Mamula is the best combine hype ever.

All fair points khodder on media. Every game i saw Johnson play in last 2 years, nothing overally impressive that said he was top 10.

He showed skills to be top 2 rounds, never consistent enough for my liking.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJ_Fka wrote:
Bruce Campbell

Better as an actor than a football player.

Mike Mamula is the best combine hype ever.

All fair points khodder on media. Every game i saw Johnson play in last 2 years, nothing overally impressive that said he was top 10.

He showed skills to be top 2 rounds, never consistent enough for my liking.


Issue there is that Mamula and Campbell stunk on film. STUNK. Johnson is actually pretty darn good when you watch the games.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
DJ_Fka wrote:
Moore was touted top 5 pick 3 months ago

That was based on game tape.

Then the whispers start and he is suddenly 2nd or 3rd round

It boggles the mind that he falls and then someone with poor tape and good combine *cough* Lane Johnson *cough* rises like a phoenix.

Go figure


Who touted him as a top 5 pick. THE MEDIA.
Who touted Johnson as a riser. THE MEDIA.

Also, if you think Lane Johnson has poor tape, you're gonna have a bad time.

Moore was NEVER a top 5 pick, Johnson was NEVER thought of as low as some beleive.

In the end the media catches up to where the teams are grading people; Moore was likely a mid first round guy, a 15-20 sort of a pick and then he had a terrible combine that propelled him into the top edge of the second round. Johnson was an early 2nd type of guy, he had a great combine that flash athleticism and really nice footwork. so he improves his stock some.

Remember when the media was touting Manti Te'o as a top five pick based on game film?


I remember seeing a lot of mocks with us picking Johnson in the second round. I remember seeing mocks with Moore going as high as 2. Johnson is the definition of a riser thanks to the combine. (And a little of Lewan staying) And I am not listening to the media at all. I thought Moore going top 10 was worthless but I have gone on about not wanting Johnson in the second round! I don't like Johnson and I don't like his tape
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know where the notion of Johnson having bad tape came from but in fact his tape is very good. Watch Texas A&M
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AZPSquared wrote:
I dont know where the notion of Johnson having bad tape came from but in fact his tape is very good. Watch Texas A&M


Off the top of my head, Texas (I think)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LuckyNumber11 wrote:
AZPSquared wrote:
I dont know where the notion of Johnson having bad tape came from but in fact his tape is very good. Watch Texas A&M


Off the top of my head, Texas (I think)


Box Score scouting here; but vs Oklahoma this year Okafor was blanked on the stat sheet apart from one pass deflection and an assisted tackle (No QB Pressure) Jeffcoat had 0 pressures or sacks; and it was pretty much identical for the two the previous year bar one pressure for Okafor.

Have not seen the game, but on paper the Longhorns top two pass rushers have been pretty much blanked in the pressure department in each of the last two years vs Oklahoma.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
LuckyNumber11 wrote:
AZPSquared wrote:
I dont know where the notion of Johnson having bad tape came from but in fact his tape is very good. Watch Texas A&M


Off the top of my head, Texas (I think)


Box Score scouting here; but vs Oklahoma this year Okafor was blanked on the stat sheet apart from one pass deflection and an assisted tackle (No QB Pressure) Jeffcoat had 0 pressures or sacks; and it was pretty much identical for the two the previous year bar one pressure for Okafor.

Have not seen the game, but on paper the Longhorns top two pass rushers have been pretty much blanked in the pressure department in each of the last two years vs Oklahoma.


I beleive it mainly had to do with the run game. His pass blocking is above average to pretty good. I just think he misses wildly on run blocking to the point where it scares me to think we might draft this guy. I know we will revolve around the passing game but his run blocking skills are atrocious
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Mighty Mouse at #38 but Gator hater DJ doesn't like him.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
LuckyNumber11 wrote:
AZPSquared wrote:
I dont know where the notion of Johnson having bad tape came from but in fact his tape is very good. Watch Texas A&M


Off the top of my head, Texas (I think)


Box Score scouting here; but vs Oklahoma this year Okafor was blanked on the stat sheet apart from one pass deflection and an assisted tackle (No QB Pressure) Jeffcoat had 0 pressures or sacks; and it was pretty much identical for the two the previous year bar one pressure for Okafor.

Have not seen the game, but on paper the Longhorns top two pass rushers have been pretty much blanked in the pressure department in each of the last two years vs Oklahoma.


I've seen that game and yeah I can confirm he was very good against Okafor and Jeffcoat.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DirtyDez wrote:
I like Mighty Mouse at #38 but Gator hater DJ doesn't like him.


Who is Mighty Mouse? Elam?

Evans is SO much better.

Evans is also there in the 3rd or 4th

I dont hate gators, I loathe them, probably the same.

I do like Flyod though
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