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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:06 pm    Post subject: If the Redskins were to trade UP in the 1st,who would it be? Reply with quote

I know...I know...
This has been under our breath, because the odds of this happening are slim to none.
Which is why I'm the 1st to post it.

However, this is Shanahan were talking about. He's arguably the trickiest Coach in the league. At least one of the hardest to figure out.

There hasn't even been assumptions, of this being a possible reality.
Which is why I'm very curious now. Think

Obviously, it would come at a price, to trade up from #51. What that is, I don't know.
Which is why if it DID happen, I would bet it would be in the 20's on down in the 1st. (30 or even less spots)

I'm personally advocating or at a minimum, considering the very good possibility that we could trade down.

But what if we're all missing something?
What if there's a player that Shanahan wants on this team?
What if we could trade up, for lesser of a price than maybe normally?

Obviously, this is all hypothetical.
But nothing is impossible.
You just never know...specially with Shanahan at the helm ready to strike.

So I ask you all, if this were to happen?

Who could possibly be a target for the Redskins & Shanahan, that NONE of US consider a logical possibility at the moment?

Is it a WR like a Tavon Austin?
Is it a Guard like a Chance Warmack?

I don't know...you tell me, who we could have a serious interest in.
Someone that drops to the late 20's in the 1st or even later, that wasn't originally expected too.

I've gone into this expecting a very interesting draft, yet a very boring Thursday for us Redskins fans.

What if were all wrong about that...?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Btw...did you know that since Shanahan has been our head coach from 2010-to current.

There are 15 other head coaches with their same team, since that same time span.

He's the only coach of all of them, to get Pro Bowlers out of all 1st rd draft picks. (Trent Williams, Kerrigan & RG3)

So remember that, before throwing bricks at the TV, if this scenario does happen. Laughing

Here's the article on that: http://sonofwashington.com/2013/04/15/how-good-has-mike-shanahan-been-in-round-1/
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only for the right prospect
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

turtle28 wrote:
Only for the right prospect


Who could that be though, turtle?

Who would you think it is?
Or could be?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aceinthehouse wrote:
Btw...did you know that since Shanahan has been our head coach from 2010-to current.

There are 15 other head coaches with their same team, since that same time span.

He's the only coach of all of them, to get Pro Bowlers out of all 1st rd draft picks. (Trent Williams, Kerrigan & RG3)

So remember that, before throwing bricks at the TV, if this scenario does happen. Laughing

Here's the article on that: http://sonofwashington.com/2013/04/15/how-good-has-mike-shanahan-been-in-round-1/
awesome Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is WR Tavon Austin worthy of a trade up?
I know we could use another threat at WR. (Or at least it would make us more difficult to defend)

What if 1 of the 3 stud tackles dropped?
Any of them fit our scheme?

Who would be worthy of a tradeup?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not gonna happen. Turtle posted something the other day which laid out why we can still pay for our rookies with our limited cap space.

Hint: Its because we don't have a 1rst rounder.

In fact, if we did have a 1rst rounder this year, I'd be willing to bet we would trade down out of the first.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would we trade up for that Vaccaro guy.
That Safety?

Is it Kenny Vacarro?
And would he be worth it?

What if he dropped into the late 20's & we pulled the trigger?
Would that be a move you guys could see?

Or would that be dumb, considering the Safety talent in this draft?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thaiphoon wrote:
Not gonna happen. Turtle posted something the other day which laid out why we can still pay for our rookies with our limited cap space.

Hint: Its because we don't have a 1rst rounder.

In fact, if we did have a 1rst rounder this year, I'd be willing to bet we would trade down out of the first.


I completely see and agree with your assessment.

But doesn't an Orakpo extension, change all that?
Wouldn't that give us 3 or 4 million extra?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aceinthehouse wrote:
Thaiphoon wrote:
Not gonna happen. Turtle posted something the other day which laid out why we can still pay for our rookies with our limited cap space.

Hint: Its because we don't have a 1rst rounder.

In fact, if we did have a 1rst rounder this year, I'd be willing to bet we would trade down out of the first.


I completely see and agree with your assessment.

But doesn't an Orakpo extension, change all that?
Wouldn't that give us 3 or 4 million extra?


Has to get done... like yesterday ... though.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aceinthehouse wrote:
turtle28 wrote:
Only for the right prospect


Who could that be though, turtle?

Who would you think it is?
Or could be?
kenny Vaccarro would be the only logical choice IMO and I don't think he's that much better than the projected 2nd round FS prospects, so, I wouldn't move into the 1st round.

I would move up above some teams in round 2 though who might take Eric Reid, Elam, Cyprien or Swearinger to make sure we get the one we want of them.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

turtle28 wrote:
aceinthehouse wrote:
turtle28 wrote:
Only for the right prospect


Who could that be though, turtle?

Who would you think it is?
Or could be?
kenny Vaccarro would be the only logical choice IMO and I don't think he's that much better than the projected 2nd round FS prospects, so, I wouldn't move into the 1st round.

I would move up above some teams in round 2 though who might take Eric Reid, Elam, Cyprien or Swearinger to make sure we get the one we want of them.


I think this is the smartest post yet Turtle!!! Moving up in the 1st would cost way more than we need to spend. For us to get a player like Vaccaro we would prolly have to mve up to a top 15 pick. That would require us giving up our 2nd and 3rd....or even a next year pick. If there is a guy they love sitting there a couple picks ahead of us like Swearinger or Reid, then sure I would move up a couple spots to snag him........
Personally, I would stay put or move back to be honest......We need secondary help badly, and this draft class is hella deep. We can get what we need where we are...IMO
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thaiphoon wrote:
aceinthehouse wrote:
Thaiphoon wrote:
Not gonna happen. Turtle posted something the other day which laid out why we can still pay for our rookies with our limited cap space.

Hint: Its because we don't have a 1rst rounder.

In fact, if we did have a 1rst rounder this year, I'd be willing to bet we would trade down out of the first.


I completely see and agree with your assessment.

But doesn't an Orakpo extension, change all that?
Wouldn't that give us 3 or 4 million extra?


Has to get done... like yesterday ... though.


Not really. Only has to get done before you sign your 1st rounder (you own their rights, but they don't count as having been signed (and thus affect the cap) until the contract is done). Granted, it would be nice to have that done sooner rather than later, but it can slide until right before training camp.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thaiphoon wrote:
aceinthehouse wrote:
Thaiphoon wrote:
Not gonna happen. Turtle posted something the other day which laid out why we can still pay for our rookies with our limited cap space.

Hint: Its because we don't have a 1rst rounder.

In fact, if we did have a 1rst rounder this year, I'd be willing to bet we would trade down out of the first.


I completely see and agree with your assessment.

But doesn't an Orakpo extension, change all that?
Wouldn't that give us 3 or 4 million extra?


Has to get done... like yesterday ... though.


And I am thinking that the Skins want to see some fundamental changes in the way Orakpo tackles before they commit to him long term. He has to stop arm tackling people, its the reason he keeps hurting his pectoral. I doubt that he gets an extension until at least game 10. If he makes it through more than half the season I see an extension in his future.

It would shock me less if we traded Orakpo of a mid first round pick, if for some reason a guy we want slips. I don't want that to happen, but it could.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aceinthehouse wrote:
Is WR Tavon Austin worthy of a trade up?
I know we could use another threat at WR. (Or at least it would make us more difficult to defend)

What if 1 of the 3 stud tackles dropped?
Any of them fit our scheme?

Who would be worthy of a tradeup?
we don't need a wr. Especially a 1st round we.

We don't need to spend a high pick on the draft on an Rt either, and Shanahan won't. He finds his RT's in the mid rounds or later, just like his interior OL. He only spends a 1st round pick on a LT.
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