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Lions, QB Matthew Stafford working on a long term deal
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheKillerNacho wrote:
IDOG_det wrote:
TheKillerNacho wrote:
skatebeanz wrote:
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DontTazeMeBro wrote:
Mistake. They need to move on. Guy is terrible.

"Terrible"? Really...?


Stafford is far from "terrible". Obviously he had a down year in 2012, but was outstanding in 2011. Kid has a lot of potential and the best option for the Lions right now. There were times Joe Flacco looked "terrible" too. Good thing for the Ravens they didn't give up on him early...

Anyway, while I do think Stafford can be a good QB, this resigning seems premature. Hopefully for the Lions he doesn't get one of those mega-deals... would want to see how he plays in 2013 first.
This isn't really premature. He was drafted 1 year after Flacco and Flacco ran out his whole contract. Lions are doing it 1 year before it runs out. Romos hadn't run out either.

Stafford hasn't proven as much as Flacco, or even Romo.

I'm optimistic about Stafford myself but for all we know, 2011 was the anomaly and 2012 was the real Stafford. Signing him to a long-term deal now is very risky.
Well in 2012 we had multiple WR injuries and our TE's had their worst years. We also missed the presence of Jahvid Best. In 2011 our WR's were healthy, our TE's played to their abilities, and we had Best for a little bit. Based off of those things 2012 seems to be the anomaly.

He still had 16 games out of the #1 WR in the NFL, Calvin Johnson, yet couldn't even post an 80 passer rating as a fourth-year player. And let's not pretend his biggest flaw - ball security - is new. He only had one more interception in 2012 than he did in 2011.

Kid has a big arm and can get the ball down the field. But to be honest, it still remains to be seen whether he can grow in terms of pocket presence and reading NFL defenses. It would be interesting to see Stafford's stats without Calvin Johnson.

Two things:

1.) As good as Calvin Johnson is, it's still hard to do your job when you're drawing more coverage than usual because Kris Durham and Brian Robiskie are lining up across from you.

2.) 17 INTs in 727 pass attempts (2012) and 16 INTs in 663 attempts isn't all that bad. By comparison, in 2012, Drew Brees threw 19 picks in 670 passes and Tony Romo threw 19 in 648 attempts. In 2011, Eli had 16 picks in 589 attempts and Roethlisberger had 15 in 513 attempts. You're basically criticizing Stafford for not being as good at protecting the ball as Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Aaron Rodgers.

Truly, the biggest difference between 2011 Stafford and 2012 Stafford was the difference in touchdowns. They actually had a red zone running threat that they didn't have in 2011 in LeShoure (9 rushing TDs) and countless receivers were tackled just short of the end zone which is a matter of luck really. For example, Calvin was tackled at the 1-yard line six different times this season. That's pretty significant. Accuracy was a bit of an issue too, but I'd contribute at least some of that to losing two top targets from 2011 in Burleson and Titus Young.
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