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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:56 pm    Post subject: Question for Arizona fans: Reply with quote

IF.... Joekel, Fisher, and Lane Johnson are all off the board at #7, would Chance Warmack be an acceptable selection?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but not if Dion Jordan is still on the board.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, but not if Dion Jordan is still on the board.

I'd assume not, at that point in the draft.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but only if Barkevious Mingo was not available.

Basically if the top six goes like this;

Joeckel - Jordan - Geno - Fisher - Johnson - Mingo

Then Warmack should be the choice.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lane Johnson is not going top 6. But to answer your question, yes Warmack would probably be the favorite.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lane Johnson is not going top 6. But to answer your question, yes Warmack would probably be the favorite.


It is very possible right now. I do not think it likely, but if the Cheifs end up going with LT at one and the Eagles (Who need mobility in their tackles) and the Lions are both targeting a left tackle (Which makes sense) it is very possible that we see three tackles taken in the top 5.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
Lane Johnson is not going top 6. But to answer your question, yes Warmack would probably be the favorite.


It is very possible right now. I do not think it likely, but if the Cheifs end up going with LT at one and the Eagles (Who need mobility in their tackles) and the Lions are both targeting a left tackle (Which makes sense) it is very possible that we see three tackles taken in the top 5.

Exactly so.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
Lane Johnson is not going top 6. But to answer your question, yes Warmack would probably be the favorite.


It is very possible right now. I do not think it likely, but if the Cheifs end up going with LT at one and the Eagles (Who need mobility in their tackles) and the Lions are both targeting a left tackle (Which makes sense) it is very possible that we see three tackles taken in the top 5.


I suppose... It's hard to imagine Detroit not taking a corner/pass-rusher if Fisher/Joeckel are both gone. I get why people like Johnson but he's by far the bigger project of the three OT's.
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I suppose... It's hard to imagine Detroit not taking a corner/pass-rusher if Fisher/Joeckel are both gone. I get why people like Johnson but he's by far the bigger project of the three OT's.


No corner in this draft is even remotely worth the 5th overall pick, scrub that. They could take a pass rusher, but Mingo and Jordan are both poor fits as a three point stance down linemen, and past them you get to a guy like Werner at DE are they going to pick him at 5? Ansah?

Johnson is raw, but from most standpoints is worth a top 10 selection as a Left Tackle. The biggest issue for Detroit is who is going to start at LT if they don't grab one at 5?

Right now I actually think Johnson is the second tackle off the board. Chip Kelly and the Eagles are going to put a huge premium on the mobility of their offensive linemen. Lane Johnson is going to stand out to the Eagles in that area. Would not be at all surprised to see Johnson go at four and the Lions get Joeckel/Fisher at 5.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What scares me about Johnson isn't necessarily Johnson. Jurecki says we like Fisher more but said if we take Lane we'd move Levi to RT and Massie inside. That would be so counterproductive I'm almost hoping we don't take any tackle (unless Levi is moved inside).
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DirtyDez wrote:
What scares me about Johnson isn't necessarily Johnson. Jurecki says we like Fisher more but said if we take Lane we'd move Levi to RT and Massie inside. That would be so counterproductive I'm almost hoping we don't take any tackle (unless Levi is moved inside).


I think that is just Juercki speculating. There should be zero circumstance where Bobby Massie after his finish to last season, should be moved inside to guard.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
What scares me about Johnson isn't necessarily Johnson. Jurecki says we like Fisher more but said if we take Lane we'd move Levi to RT and Massie inside. That would be so counterproductive I'm almost hoping we don't take any tackle (unless Levi is moved inside).


I think that is just Juercki speculating. There should be zero circumstance where Bobby Massie after his finish to last season, should be moved inside to guard.


BA made comments about how Levi is a "tackle" and how Massie and Potter could play multiple spots.

I don't like that as Massie has said he was only a RT and I would like Brown to move to guard.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

love2theOLINE wrote:
khodder wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
What scares me about Johnson isn't necessarily Johnson. Jurecki says we like Fisher more but said if we take Lane we'd move Levi to RT and Massie inside. That would be so counterproductive I'm almost hoping we don't take any tackle (unless Levi is moved inside).


I think that is just Juercki speculating. There should be zero circumstance where Bobby Massie after his finish to last season, should be moved inside to guard.


BA made comments about how Levi is a "tackle" and how Massie and Potter could play multiple spots.

I don't like that as Massie has said he was only a RT and I would like Brown to move to guard.


He also said Stanton is the starter and then made a move for Carson.

I would take most of what BA says as smoke/mirrors.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJ_Fka wrote:
Never trust a man in a hat

Or a beret

No matter how handsome and smart he seems.


I still laugh at his "sixty is sexy" comment lol.

The one difference between Whiz and Arians for me that is very noticeable is that Arians seems more charismatic. He makes Whiz look kind of boring to be honest. Not that that is important though. I do like that Arians seems to know what to say and what not to say to succeed in the offseason. He was backing up Stanton all while trying to get Carson "Door #2" Palmer. And Stanton knew it was a possibility so it was a smooth play without being deceitful to Stanton.
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