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scottonatable


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know who Greg Reid signed with??
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scottonatable wrote:
Does anyone know who Greg Reid signed with??


Nobody yet.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went back and watched some film on some prospects. Made me more excited about our draft than before.

Need to go back and look at more Jon Banks, but he seems legit. Plays faster than he times, plus his length makes up for any speed he does lack. I dont see it being a problem in the pros, especially considering he'll be going up against #2s. Need to watch more film, but I'm excited about the potential of our secondary. It'll easily be top 3 in the league if everyone lives up to expectations.

Haven't watched Spence or Gholston yet. Two players who are lacking the great combine numbers, but have great size and strength. They should help keep our rush D at the top of the league. Need to see watch some film but seems like the type of players that can be much better pro's than collegians with good coaching.

As a fan of the U, I love the Mike James pick. Good speed for his size. Never got a chance to shine really because of playing with NFL starting caliber RBs his entire career. IMO he'll be an improvement over DJ Ware as a #2/3rd down back. He won't be Alfred Morris, but could be a Chester Taylor type back.

I think Means is going to stick as a rotation player for us. I actually think he has more potential than Gholston. There's not much film to go off of, but it looks like he plays faster than he timed. He has a couple moves already too, his dip and spin seem pretty good. Seems like a pretty instinctive player too, made some good plays against the run and had a few PDs including one he intercepted for a TD. Showed some impressive closing burst too, like on this sack:
http://youtu.be/0GuCT1N8NLo?t=47s


My cousin's BF brother is Shad Thornton, who was a freshman last year and lead the team in scoring. I shooud get in touch with him and get some inside info on Glennon hah. I wasn't a fan of the pick at the time, I wanted some help on the dline but it seemed like we had some targets later in the draft which let us take Glennon early. After looking more into him, I have to say I'm interested to see what he can do behind our above average line and with some legit weapons. He seems like a perfect fit for our offense.

Tennessee allowed 3 sacks a game, which was in the bottom 13 in the nation out of 115 teams. Their rushing game was in the bottom 12 in the nation. Pretty safe to say he was playing with a well below average offensive line. His three worse games last year accounted for 10 of his 17 interceptions. 12 of his 17 interceptions came when he was trailing. It doesnt seem like his accuracy is a problem, rather his decision making when pressured and/or playing from behind. That seems like an issue that'll be easier to fix than a player with poor accuracy.

People say he sounds like Freeman because of the big arm and interception numbers, but I think it's a lazy comparison. So much of a QB is past the physical standpoint and more mental. A problem Freeman still has is being timid at times with passes. I saw Glennon throw receivers open a few times in the game films I watched, an underrated aspect in a QBs game IMO. Although he has a big arm, Freemans also been criticized for lofting some of his deeper passes. Seems very good on sideline passes. We all know he has a strong arm, I saw him air it out for over 60 yards, and 50+ yards for TDs a few times rolling out and on the run. A lot of big plays in '11 came from hitting TJ Graham and stride and letting his speed get some long TDs.

From the NC game last year, out of 14 incompletitions, 7 were clearly not his fault, including one interceptions that the WR let bounce right off his chest. A couple other passes had to be thrown away due to poor blocking and no time. A few passes wouldve been completions if he it was VJ or Mike Will catching. I didnt see any passes wildly off target which is encouraging.

Seems like a smart QB from that game, going through progressions and looking off safeties. This TD looks like an easy play at first, but he actually draws in the safety off his assignment and goes back to his first option for an open TD
http://youtu.be/URoXVwlayj8?t=1m40s

Not saying he's our savior or a sure thing by any means, but in CFB you have to look past the numbers. Dont say he's inaccurate without watching some tape. With more talent around him, I'd say he could've easily been around the 65% completion mark in college. The franchise QB potential is there in my opinion.

I would've liked us to add a slot wideout or TE with some potential, but I guess the staff feels satisfied with the Ogletree/Smith/Crabtree signings to fill those wholes. All in all, solid draft and I don't think anyone can say we didn't get better this off season.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone else somewhat excited about the branden smith pickup? He's one of the best athletes in the ENTIRE 2013 draft class and is capable of not only working his way onto the roster at cb...but is an absolute nightmare for other teams as a return guy

sometimes these guys are overshadowed by other players at college...the athletic traits are there and he seems like an intelligent football player. Anytime you can add an elite athlete as an UDFA that has SEC experience on defense you've snagged a diamond in the rough
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like the Steven Means pick since I looked into him a little more. Definitely a speed rushing DE for us. Hopefully Spence, Gholston and Means all work out, because it's instant depth to the DL.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gruber74 wrote:
DaRealdeal wrote:
http://www.miningjournal.net/page/blogs.detail/display/270/Northern-Michigan-OL-Jace-Daniels-of-Escanaba-joining-Tampa-Bay-Buccaneers.html

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Northern Michigan University senior offensive lineman Jace Daniels of Escanaba is getting his shot with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers after not being selected over the weekend in the 2013 NFL Draft.

We are looking at a ton of OLineman right now. Keep building that depth.


This guy looks like a monster on tape. Good finisher. I know it wasn't against 'Bama, but he has the nastiness I like to see. Can play all across the line too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCWQmtf_F6o


Played LG in HS next to him. Kid will WORK and he can move VERY well for his size. He has nasty for sure. I could see him getting PS and getting him a little stronger overall. Great motivated kid.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pvsports9 wrote:
anyone else somewhat excited about the branden smith pickup? He's one of the best athletes in the ENTIRE 2013 draft class and is capable of not only working his way onto the roster at cb...but is an absolute nightmare for other teams as a return guy

sometimes these guys are overshadowed by other players at college...the athletic traits are there and he seems like an intelligent football player. Anytime you can add an elite athlete as an UDFA that has SEC experience on defense you've snagged a diamond in the rough


I'm more excited for the Rashaan Melvin pick. Kids a stud. I feel like this is the kod who finally takes Myron Lewis' roster spot. Cant wait to see him in pads.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ABucNBradenton wrote:
Pvsports9 wrote:
anyone else somewhat excited about the branden smith pickup? He's one of the best athletes in the ENTIRE 2013 draft class and is capable of not only working his way onto the roster at cb...but is an absolute nightmare for other teams as a return guy

sometimes these guys are overshadowed by other players at college...the athletic traits are there and he seems like an intelligent football player. Anytime you can add an elite athlete as an UDFA that has SEC experience on defense you've snagged a diamond in the rough


I'm more excited for the Rashaan Melvin pick. Kids a stud. I feel like this is the kod who finally takes Myron Lewis' roster spot. Cant wait to see him in pads.


yea i posted about him yesterday...melvin island allll day!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We ended up keeping 4 UDFAs from the 2012 class:

Leonard Johnson
Danny Noble
Sean Baker
Desmond Wynn

With improved depth across the roster that number will likely be lower this year, but I think that we still should have room for 2 or 3 guys on the active roster + practice squad.
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8590/mike-james

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Bucs GM Mark Dominik "repeatedly mentioned" No. 189 overall pick RB Mike James as having the "inside track" to the No. 2 job behind Doug Martin.

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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scottonatable wrote:
Does anyone know who Greg Reid signed with??


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TALLAHASSEE ó Former Florida State cornerback Greg Reid's string of bad luck took another unfortunate turn late last week.

Reid learned found out he will have to undergo a second surgery to fix a torn anterior cruciate ligament. The NFL hopeful will be back in surgery next week.

David Weinshel, Reidís agent, said a surgery in August didn't properly correct the knee ligament problem. Reid went through pre-NFL Draft workouts, rehabilitation work and training, but he didnít realize the ACL was still partially torn.

Renowned orthopedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews has already reevaluated Reid's left knee and will perform the second procedure in Pensacola
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.pewterreport.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=8891:&Itemid=15

http://www.pewterreport.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=8892:&Itemid=15

Some good things said about Golston and Spence.

Even though I'm an FSU fan I love the James pick up. I think he will be a solid back up for Martin.[/quote]
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pvsports9 wrote:

Cards and Rams are no Gimme games
Yeah but they are very winnable games. And the Bucs have a much more talented roster than both squads.
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tim199009 wrote:
Chris Denton WR from mount union, you guys are getting a hell of a player. I know him personally we have been good friends since high school one of the hardest workers ive seen. The guy has a chip on his shoulder and a burning desire to be successful.

http://www.sportstalkflorida.com/bucs-sign-denton-and-neblett-release-clebert-and-allen/

Well, looks like he has signed on with the team. He will be someone to definitely watch during the pre-season this year.
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

means looked VERY slow in drills on day 2...not slow as in NT slow...but slow as in this guy is supposed to be a pass rushing specialist slow
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