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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

arKnaD7 wrote:
This situation reminds me of Michael Crabtree.

Injured throughout the draft process, bad timed speed. I think Allen will be the same type of WR as well.


lets not forget Crabtree would have gone a lot higher if Al Davis wasn't an idiot.

I said Crabtree was a bust, and for the most part I was right. I'll be interested to see what he can do with Boldin and Davis taking substantial pressure off of him.
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It might have taken him a while, but Crabtree started looking like a solid #1 last year, especially after Kaepernick took over.
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^there was a report somewhere though that Patterson had to be fed the playbook 1/4 at a time.



There was a reason why he was in JUCO for 2 years. He possibly could be a slow reader, which is why he has to be fed the playbook. I don't know enough about his back history. But, he did attend this "school" prior to going to Hutchinson CC :

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/7356429/north-carolina-prep-school-sells-football-players-second-chances-actions-spur-state-investigation

which probably means he had a troubled childhood, and a sketchy support system, falling for that trap. It's interesting, because I can find little information about his actual character, outside of the academic issues. It's concerning, to a point, but really we don't know.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to be for a first round WR, but now I'm beginning to think trading up in the 2nd for one is a better option. We could get J-Hunter then, or hope Quinton Patton/Robert Woods falls to our 2nd round pick.
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I've fallen completely into the "wait until the 2nd rd and see who's left for a WR" camp.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

disaacs wrote:
I've fallen completely into the "wait until the 2nd rd and see who's left for a WR" camp.


Only receiver I want in the first is DeAndre Hopkins, or possibly Tavon Austin if he falls to us. Other than that, I'd prefer to wait until rd 2.

I could also live with Robert Woods at 25, but would rather wait and see who falls.
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I'm hoping for a trade back to the early second and we pick Hunter. Otherwise stay put and hopefully get Rogers.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally still like K. Allen. I don'tlove the slow 40 times, but I feel it's more about the diminished strength in his knee. I believe were looking at a 4.55 guy with a great catch radius, hands and body control. I seriously do not think his slow 40 times and slower than anticipated recovery time will not affect his draft status too much.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anquan Boldin ran a 4.71.... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BrotherShine wrote:
Anquan Boldin ran a 4.71.... Rolling Eyes


Boldin appears to be a bit of an exception.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kellerman wrote:
BrotherShine wrote:
Anquan Boldin ran a 4.71.... Rolling Eyes


Boldin appears to be a bit of an exception.


In addition to being a much stronger and physical player. You can get by being slow if you can physically out muscle the DB.

Allen is scrawny, and is a finesse receiver who will probably be a possession receiver ala Michael Crabtree or Michael Jenkins at the next level.
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vikingsrule wrote:
Kellerman wrote:
BrotherShine wrote:
Anquan Boldin ran a 4.71.... Rolling Eyes


Boldin appears to be a bit of an exception.


In addition to being a much stronger and physical player. You can get by being slow if you can physically out muscle the DB.

Allen is scrawny, and is a finesse receiver who will probably be a possession receiver ala Michael Crabtree or Michael Jenkins at the next level.


This.

Boldin at FSU:


Allen:


Keenan Allen is closer frame-wise to Randy Moss or AJ Green than he is to Boldin.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keenan Allen has about as much muscle mass as a teenage boy.

I'm willing to guess he can do about as many reps in the bench press as the Honey Badger.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sad about the fall of Keenan Allen. I still think he is a decent prospect, but there is no way he can warrant a first round selection at this point, even if he does turn out to be just like Boldin. His slow times, injury/ rehab concerns, and possibility of failing a drug test all add up to a later pick than in the first round. At the end of the day, combine style event numbers (40 yard dashes, high jumps, shuttles, etc.) don't mean a player will be a stud or a bust, that is why guys fall through the cracks and get drafted late.

Is Allen worth our 2nd round pick (assuming we don't take one in the 1st round)? I'd be okay with that. I'd like Justin Hunter before anyone else who would be available at that point, but I still think that Allen could have a lot of value. Either way, though, he is gonna fall quite a bit, and i do not see him in our future.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone is still talking first and second round. What happens when he falls to the third?
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