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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:36 pm    Post subject: FFMD 13 (Part II): Ravens War Room - Draft Complete Reply with quote

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Official Positions

General Manager - coordinator0
Assistant General Manager - Anubiz

Non-official Positions

Strategic Stress Management and Canola Oil Specialist - diamondbull424
Head Stylist - Flaccomania
Janitor - STrid
Waterboy - r_sayle
Team Pharmacist - alfalcone
Bus Driver - drd23
Head of Security - mcdni
Assistant Groundskeeper - Integrity
Head Chef - RAVINGMADD

Roster:

QB: Flacco - Taylor
RB: Rice - Pierce - Allen - Rainey - Berry - L. Miller
FB: Leach
WR: T. Smith - J. Jones - Bailey - Doss - Reed - Streeter - Williams - D. Thompson - Gurley
TE: Pitta - Dickson - Silvestro - Watson
LT: Oher - Faulk - Mims
LG: Osemele - Harewood
C: Gradkowski - Stephens
RG: Yanda - A. McClain
RT: Reid - Wagner - Cornell

DT: Canty - Spears - Tyson
NT: Ngata - Cody - S. Miller
DE: McPhee - Hunt
RUSH: Suggs - Buchanan - Hamilton - McAdoo
WILL: Minter - Bynes - Tate - Carr - Adkins
MIKE: J. McClain - McClellan - Bryant - Hall
SAM: Upshaw - Dumervil
CB: Webb - J. Smith - Graham - C. Brown - Johnson - Jackson
FS: Huff - O. Brown - Levine
SS: McDonald - Ihedigbo - C. Thompson - Cook

K: Tucker
P: Koch
LS: Cox

Draft Picks:

1 32 Baltimore Ravens (April 10th at 11:00pm) - Kevin Minter
2 62 Baltimore Ravens (April 12th at 9:00pm) - Margus Hunt
3 72 Baltimore Ravens (from New York Jets) (April 13th at 3:00pm) - Stedman Bailey
3 94 Baltimore Ravens (from New York Jets (from Baltimore Ravens)) (April 14th at 9:00pm) - T.J. McDonald
4 130 Baltimore Ravens (Compensatory) (April 16th at 9:30am) - Chris Faulk
5 168 Baltimore Ravens (Compensatory) (April 17th at 1:00pm) - Michael Buchanan
6 203 Baltimore Ravens (Compensatory) (April 18th at 2:30pm) - Ricky Wagner
7 247 Baltimore Ravens (Compensatory) (April 19th at 8:30pm) - Kenny Tate

Trades:

Baltimore Ravens trade Arthur Jones + #129 to Seattle Seahawks for #87
Baltimore Ravens trade #87 + #94 + #165 + #238 to New York Jets for #72 + #106
Baltimore Ravens trade #106 + #199 + #200 to New York Jets for #94

Trading Block:

Ed Dickson - TBD


Terrence Cody - TBD


Jameel McClain - TBD








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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We can officially start doing business on Friday after the rosters are locked and announced. In this FFMD there isn't a salary cap to follow (just make sure we keep things realistic) and roster size doesn't matter.There are still a couple of things to decide on though.

One thing is whether or not we're using codes for the prospects. I don't have a strong opinion on the matter so whatever the majority decides is fine with me.

The next thing I want to discuss is the voting process. There was a little confusion in the last FFMD so I want to clear everything up before it starts. I like the process we used last time but I'd rather limit the voting big boards to 3 players. Then we take the consensus top 3 from all of the boards submitted for the pick and then make our official pick from the second phase of voting.

Let me know what you think and if you have any other questions, concerns, or suggestions. This is going to be a true community project like all of the other Baltimore FFMDs have been.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Codes
Well we didn't use codes in FFMD1 and I think it certainly worked out fine for us FTMP. Though FFMD1 was less participatory than past years... not sure if it's because using codes equates to being more fun in some way or if there is no correlation between the two in any capacity.

I don't care much but I'll vote no codes, just because we've done codes multiple times already and I suppose this deserves its fair share in the sun.

Voting
Yeah, I implemented that voting process mid-FFMD, I think with a full conversation before hand it definitely should be much better executed from the group.

I think another key point is when to lock in BBs and when to lock in votes.

Because listing a top 3 BB makes sense so as long as its close enough to the pick where it's unlikely any of those players will be gone. I think a good idea might be when we're on deck, BBs are due and then the moment we go on clock the consensus voting process starts and continues for some established period of time (30-45 minutes or something).

Trading
I think we should be much more aggressive with trading in this FFMD than last by virtue of our picks. There's actually a couple prospects I'd love to trade up a few spots for just to make sure we could secure them.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 14th pick is available. I don't think there are any prospects worth giving up what it would cost to move up that high but does anybody else have an opinion on the matter?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

diamondbull424 wrote:
Codes
Well we didn't use codes in FFMD1 and I think it certainly worked out fine for us FTMP. Though FFMD1 was less participatory than past years... not sure if it's because using codes equates to being more fun in some way or if there is no correlation between the two in any capacity.

I don't care much but I'll vote no codes, just because we've done codes multiple times already and I suppose this deserves its fair share in the sun.

Voting
Yeah, I implemented that voting process mid-FFMD, I think with a full conversation before hand it definitely should be much better executed from the group.

I think another key point is when to lock in BBs and when to lock in votes.

Because listing a top 3 BB makes sense so as long as its close enough to the pick where it's unlikely any of those players will be gone. I think a good idea might be when we're on deck, BBs are due and then the moment we go on clock the consensus voting process starts and continues for some established period of time (30-45 minutes or something).

Trading
I think we should be much more aggressive with trading in this FFMD than last by virtue of our picks. There's actually a couple prospects I'd love to trade up a few spots for just to make sure we could secure them.


I'm on board with all of this.

And as for #14, I think that's a bit too high. I'd keep an eye out for #22 or so or closer to our pick. Maybe even target mid-2nd round to move up from #64.
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diamondbull424 wrote:
Codes
Well we didn't use codes in FFMD1 and I think it certainly worked out fine for us FTMP. Though FFMD1 was less participatory than past years... not sure if it's because using codes equates to being more fun in some way or if there is no correlation between the two in any capacity.

I don't care much but I'll vote no codes, just because we've done codes multiple times already and I suppose this deserves its fair share in the sun.

Voting
Yeah, I implemented that voting process mid-FFMD, I think with a full conversation before hand it definitely should be much better executed from the group.

I think another key point is when to lock in BBs and when to lock in votes.

Because listing a top 3 BB makes sense so as long as its close enough to the pick where it's unlikely any of those players will be gone. I think a good idea might be when we're on deck, BBs are due and then the moment we go on clock the consensus voting process starts and continues for some established period of time (30-45 minutes or something).

Trading
I think we should be much more aggressive with trading in this FFMD than last by virtue of our picks. There's actually a couple prospects I'd love to trade up a few spots for just to make sure we could secure them.


Agree with all three.

I also think we should agree on a draft philosophy, need, value, best player available, etc. I for one vote best player available, I think in our last draft we reached for need to often namely Te'o and Jones.

As to potential targets in round 1: Keenan Allen, Menelik Watson, Justin Hunter, Sylvester Williams, Jarvis Jones, Jamie Collins, Margus Hunt, Arthur Brown, Alec Ogletree, and Matt Elam.

Trade Up Candidates: Shledon Richardson, Lane Johnson, Tavon Austin, Cordarrelle Patterson, Tyler Eifert, Jonathan Cooper (As a center).

Round 2: Terrence Williams, Robert Woods, Terron Armstead, Jesse Williams, Kevin Minter, Kiko Alonzo, Khasseem Greene, DJ Hayden, Eric Reid, Shamarko Thomas, John Cyprien.

Round 3: Giovanni Bernard, Tavarress King, Markus Wheaton, Da'rick Rodgers Stedman Bailey, Vance Mcdonald, Gavin Escobar, Jonathan Bostic, Bacarri Rambo, Kevin Reddick, Shawne Williams, Tony Jefferson.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alfalcone wrote:
I also think we should agree on a draft philosophy, need, value, best player available, etc. I for one vote best player available, I think in our last draft we reached for need to often namely Te'o and Jones.


Our draft philosophy is whoever wins the voting process. That's the fairest way to do it Whether or not a prospect is a value or a reach is an individual opinion. When we do take a player he obviously isn't a reach to the majority of our members since he won the vote.

I forgot to address db424's part about the time slotting for the voting process. It's something I'd like to implement. Last time we seemed to go right up to the limit of our pick and we had to rush to get it in. I'm thinking something like the last 45 minutes while we're on the clock is when the final voting process occurs. There probably has to be a minimum number of boards submitted though. Four seems like a good number.
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The Lions GM PMed me with interest regarding Jimmy Smith. I told him we're probably not going to be moving him (or any of our CBs) but would that be an interesting idea for anybody? Personally I'm not interested in that kind of move. We might be able to get a second round pick but we would probably just use one of our high picks on a CB anyways and that seems like a lateral move to me.
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The Jets are interested in Ed Dickson. What would it take to get him from us? My suggestion is a 4th round pick.

We also should decide if we have anybody of our own we want to put on the trade block or if there are any players we're interested in trading for.
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coordinator0 wrote:
The Lions GM PMed me with interest regarding Jimmy Smith. I told him we're probably not going to be moving him (or any of our CBs) but would that be an interesting idea for anybody? Personally I'm not interested in that kind of move. We might be able to get a second round pick but we would probably just use one of our high picks on a CB anyways and that seems like a lateral move to me.


I agree, lateral move.

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The Jets are interested in Ed Dickson. What would it take to get him from us? My suggestion is a 4th round pick.


I'd like to hold onto him personally. With losing Boldin, I think we could see more 2 TE sets and under Caldwell he seemed to be getting more involved in the passing game. I think moving him for a 3rd would be another lateral move.
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coordinator0 wrote:
The Lions GM PMed me with interest regarding Jimmy Smith. I told him we're probably not going to be moving him (or any of our CBs) but would that be an interesting idea for anybody? Personally I'm not interested in that kind of move. We might be able to get a second round pick but we would probably just use one of our high picks on a CB anyways and that seems like a lateral move to me.

I forgot to comment on this. I agree with both you guys. Lateral move. Heck, even for a 1st I wouldn't be willing to part ways with Jimmy. He has a lot of potential and corner is one of the most difficult positions to develop into a great player anyway. They say WRs don't truly hit their stride until their 3rd year in the league, so it could make some sense that the same could apply to Smith as a corner... especially with all the time he's missed to injuries. Couple that with the fact that this corner class really isn't all that great... and I'm good.

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The Jets are interested in Ed Dickson. What would it take to get him from us? My suggestion is a 4th round pick.

For an early 4th rounder, I'd be willing. I know trading Dickson would just create a need at TE, but this is actually a pretty deep TE class filled with blockers and athletes.

Dickson really doesn't provide us with anything that Pitta doesn't. Both are similarly athletic. Dickson is perhaps a little more explosive, but his hands aren't on Pitta's level. Neither are in line blocking types. It's redundancy. And truth be told, we'd likely need to draft a TE anyway to be a blocking type. Dickson surely has talent, but we'd be better served parting with him if we can gain a 4th rounder. Then we could target a guy like Kelce, who in addition to being a nice receiver is noted for being the best blocking TE in this class. He might not be the explosive athlete type, but we've already got that. An all around option would make a lot of sense for us and would successfully kill two birds with ones stone... the two birds being replacing Dickson while also adding a blocking TE option.
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My willingness to move Dickson stems from the fact that he's playing under a tender this season and will most likely walk as a free agent next year. I agree with db424 that we were likely going to draft a TE anyways. Dickson is Baltimore's blocking TE but he's not a good blocker. We might see more two-TE sets to help "replace" Boldin but drafting a quality WR would go a long ways towards that too. It might be somewhat of lateral move to trade Dickson and then draft a TE with the same pick we get in return (or one close to that) but I think we need a different kind of talent behind Pitta anyways.
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My willingness to move Dickson stems from the fact that he's playing under a tender this season and will most likely walk as a free agent next year. I agree with db424 that we were likely going to draft a TE anyways. Dickson is Baltimore's blocking TE but he's not a good blocker. We might see more two-TE sets to help "replace" Boldin but drafting a quality WR would go a long ways towards that too. It might be somewhat of lateral move to trade Dickson and then draft a TE with the same pick we get in return (or one close to that) but I think we need a different kind of talent behind Pitta anyways.

Yup. And the point about playing under a tender is a very good point. Trading him and bringing in a rookie TE would offer some minor cap relief while also adding a cheap player for the next 3-4 years as opposed to just one more season.

There is some sense to moving Dickson, but it depends on what we can get.

Was the Dickson interest from the Jets GM or just someone sending feelers our way?

But yes, I'd be game for a 4th rounder.
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It was the Jets GM. The trade he's proposing is Dickson and our 4th round pick (129) for their 4th round pick (106). I'm not a big fan of that deal.
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coordinator0 wrote:
It was the Jets GM. The trade he's proposing is Dickson and our 4th round pick (129) for their 4th round pick (106). I'm not a big fan of that deal.


Not at all, that's like 5th or 6th round value.
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