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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WindyCity wrote:
This rebuild of the Bears OL is not going to happen in a day. We are trying to fix 6 years of neglect and failure.

This season we need to move from terrible to professional and competent. To move to professional and competent would be a vast improvement and a move in the right direction.

Slauson is competent and professional and he can bridge the gap till we get someone better.

The first thing you do with a bullet wound is apply pressure till you can get to the hospital. Slauson is our version of applying pressure, he is not a trauma surgeon but he beats the hell out of bleeding to death.


LMAO! That sir is the best analogy I have heard in a long long time. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AZBearsFan wrote:
He's not Levitre and nobody would say he was but that doesn't mean the move should dissatisfy me.

It shouldn't dissatisfy anybody; it also shouldn't cause people to act like Phil Emery pulled some off some amazing feat and outsmarted the rest of the league by signing Slauson, which is what the sentiment appears to be on the first page of this topic.

So what if Angelo didn't pay attention to the line for years? Now it's not like that, and stuff like this should be the norm and taken at face value, not overly lauded for no reason.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IronMike84 wrote:
AZBearsFan wrote:
He's not Levitre and nobody would say he was but that doesn't mean the move should dissatisfy me.

It shouldn't dissatisfy anybody; it also shouldn't cause people to act like Phil Emery pulled some off some amazing feat and outsmarted the rest of the league by signing Slauson, which is what the sentiment appears to be on the first page of this topic.

So what if Angelo didn't pay attention to the line for years? Now it's not like that, and stuff like this should be the norm and taken at face value, not overly lauded for no reason.



Sounds like someone's got a case of the Mondays. To hear you talk we really shouldn't say anything about it at all. It's not bad, but it isn't good. It just is, apparently.

He's better than the abject trash we've been trotting out there for years now. That alone is cause for me to rejoice.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IronMike84 wrote:
AZBearsFan wrote:
He's not Levitre and nobody would say he was but that doesn't mean the move should dissatisfy me.

It shouldn't dissatisfy anybody; it also shouldn't cause people to act like Phil Emery pulled some off some amazing feat and outsmarted the rest of the league by signing Slauson, which is what the sentiment appears to be on the first page of this topic.

So what if Angelo didn't pay attention to the line for years? Now it's not like that, and stuff like this should be the norm and taken at face value, not overly lauded for no reason.


What are you doing on a Bears message board if you don't care to discuss the minutiae of every Bears move. Pissing and moaning over the excitement shown by others is very unbecoming. And if you want to go by PFF rankings we've improved from 47th OG to the 31st.

Your biggest criticism appears to be that Slauson is 'nothing special'. No crap. But 'nothing special' is a giant leap forward from what we've had at the position the last few years. We don't have the cap situation to go out and sign the top prospect at each position on the line - we have to hope that we can find bargains that are also upgraded. Emery has now done that at several positions - that's why he is being celebrated.

Upgraded LT
Upgraded RT
Upgraded OG

And that's all I really care about.
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Mudderfudder77 wrote:
IronMike84 wrote:
AZBearsFan wrote:
He's not Levitre and nobody would say he was but that doesn't mean the move should dissatisfy me.

It shouldn't dissatisfy anybody; it also shouldn't cause people to act like Phil Emery pulled some off some amazing feat and outsmarted the rest of the league by signing Slauson, which is what the sentiment appears to be on the first page of this topic.

So what if Angelo didn't pay attention to the line for years? Now it's not like that, and stuff like this should be the norm and taken at face value, not overly lauded for no reason.


What are you doing on a Bears message board if you don't care to discuss the minutiae of every Bears move. Pissing and moaning over the excitement shown by others is very unbecoming. And if you want to go by PFF rankings we've improved from 47th OG to the 31st.

Your biggest criticism appears to be that Slauson is 'nothing special'. No crap. But 'nothing special' is a giant leap forward from what we've had at the position the last few years. We don't have the cap situation to go out and sign the top prospect at each position on the line - we have to hope that we can find bargains that are also upgraded. Emery has now done that at several positions - that's why he is being celebrated.

Upgraded LT
Upgraded RT
Upgraded OG

And that's all I really care about.

How am I "not discussing" the move? Laughing

I'm just trying to see where you guys are coming from. I'm glad we agree he's nothing special. It's a big difference from the comments I read on the first page.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IronMike84 wrote:
Mudderfudder77 wrote:
IronMike84 wrote:
AZBearsFan wrote:
He's not Levitre and nobody would say he was but that doesn't mean the move should dissatisfy me.

It shouldn't dissatisfy anybody; it also shouldn't cause people to act like Phil Emery pulled some off some amazing feat and outsmarted the rest of the league by signing Slauson, which is what the sentiment appears to be on the first page of this topic.

So what if Angelo didn't pay attention to the line for years? Now it's not like that, and stuff like this should be the norm and taken at face value, not overly lauded for no reason.


What are you doing on a Bears message board if you don't care to discuss the minutiae of every Bears move. Pissing and moaning over the excitement shown by others is very unbecoming. And if you want to go by PFF rankings we've improved from 47th OG to the 31st.

Your biggest criticism appears to be that Slauson is 'nothing special'. No crap. But 'nothing special' is a giant leap forward from what we've had at the position the last few years. We don't have the cap situation to go out and sign the top prospect at each position on the line - we have to hope that we can find bargains that are also upgraded. Emery has now done that at several positions - that's why he is being celebrated.

Upgraded LT
Upgraded RT
Upgraded OG

And that's all I really care about.

I'm just trying to see where you guys are coming from. I'm glad we agree he's nothing special. It's a big difference from the comments I read on the first page.


Literally the most fawning comment on the first page is 'this is a solid signing'. Most every other comment is similarly subdued. So I'm not sure what comments you read on the first page.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudderfudder77 wrote:
IronMike84 wrote:
Mudderfudder77 wrote:
IronMike84 wrote:
AZBearsFan wrote:
He's not Levitre and nobody would say he was but that doesn't mean the move should dissatisfy me.

It shouldn't dissatisfy anybody; it also shouldn't cause people to act like Phil Emery pulled some off some amazing feat and outsmarted the rest of the league by signing Slauson, which is what the sentiment appears to be on the first page of this topic.

So what if Angelo didn't pay attention to the line for years? Now it's not like that, and stuff like this should be the norm and taken at face value, not overly lauded for no reason.


What are you doing on a Bears message board if you don't care to discuss the minutiae of every Bears move. Pissing and moaning over the excitement shown by others is very unbecoming. And if you want to go by PFF rankings we've improved from 47th OG to the 31st.

Your biggest criticism appears to be that Slauson is 'nothing special'. No crap. But 'nothing special' is a giant leap forward from what we've had at the position the last few years. We don't have the cap situation to go out and sign the top prospect at each position on the line - we have to hope that we can find bargains that are also upgraded. Emery has now done that at several positions - that's why he is being celebrated.

Upgraded LT
Upgraded RT
Upgraded OG

And that's all I really care about.

I'm just trying to see where you guys are coming from. I'm glad we agree he's nothing special. It's a big difference from the comments I read on the first page.


Literally the most fawning comment on the first page is 'this is a solid signing'. Most every other comment is similarly subdued. So I'm not sure what comments you read on the first page.



Yeah wooooo!! Slauson the best guard in the NFL. We are going to the superbowl.

Its a upgrade just wanted to make a comment we can refer to
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Mudderfudder77 wrote:
IronMike84 wrote:
Mudderfudder77 wrote:
IronMike84 wrote:
AZBearsFan wrote:
He's not Levitre and nobody would say he was but that doesn't mean the move should dissatisfy me.

It shouldn't dissatisfy anybody; it also shouldn't cause people to act like Phil Emery pulled some off some amazing feat and outsmarted the rest of the league by signing Slauson, which is what the sentiment appears to be on the first page of this topic.

So what if Angelo didn't pay attention to the line for years? Now it's not like that, and stuff like this should be the norm and taken at face value, not overly lauded for no reason.


What are you doing on a Bears message board if you don't care to discuss the minutiae of every Bears move. Pissing and moaning over the excitement shown by others is very unbecoming. And if you want to go by PFF rankings we've improved from 47th OG to the 31st.

Your biggest criticism appears to be that Slauson is 'nothing special'. No crap. But 'nothing special' is a giant leap forward from what we've had at the position the last few years. We don't have the cap situation to go out and sign the top prospect at each position on the line - we have to hope that we can find bargains that are also upgraded. Emery has now done that at several positions - that's why he is being celebrated.

Upgraded LT
Upgraded RT
Upgraded OG

And that's all I really care about.

I'm just trying to see where you guys are coming from. I'm glad we agree he's nothing special. It's a big difference from the comments I read on the first page.


Literally the most fawning comment on the first page is 'this is a solid signing'. Most every other comment is similarly subdued. So I'm not sure what comments you read on the first page.

It's not as uniform as you're suggesting but we're not going to agree here.

What I do like about Slauson is his durability. Pretty impressive considering the physicality the NYJ play with.
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WindyCity wrote:
This season we need to move from terrible to professional and competent. To move to professional and competent would be a vast improvement and a move in the right direction.

I've been saying this for months. We don't NEED great individual linemen. We NEED a collection of 5 capable linemen. If you have 5 capable linemen then you have a good OL, almost certainly top 10. 5 elite players is a pipe dream.
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AZBearsFan wrote:
WindyCity wrote:
This season we need to move from terrible to professional and competent. To move to professional and competent would be a vast improvement and a move in the right direction.

I've been saying this for months. We don't NEED great individual linemen. We NEED a collection of 5 capable linemen. If you have 5 capable linemen then you have a good OL, almost certainly top 10. 5 elite players is a pipe dream.


I think peoe have forgotten that we went to and NFC Championship game and won 10 games last season with a PATHETIC excuse for an OL.

Now we have improved at LT, LG and RT and we still have a draft infornt of us.

Even a small OL improvement means we are going from 10-6 and out of the playoffs to 11-5 or 12-4 and in the playoffs. If we had this OL in 2010 maybe we make the Superbowl?

Slauson individually is nothing special, but he is part of a much larger improvement.
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IronMike84 wrote:
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DaMike wrote:
IronMike84 wrote:
Mudderfudder77 wrote:
IronMike84 wrote:
DaMike wrote:
IronMike84 wrote:
Getting excited about Matt Slauson is like getting excited over a McDonalds cheeseburger. The guy is not that great, so lets not act like this is a home run signing.
He's a good quality starter who can pass protect. It's a definite upgrade.

Uh-huh, sure.

I can't wait for the "Matt Slauson Sucks" threads come August.


He was rated higher than any lineman on our team last year. He's better than Lance Louis - that's all I'm really concerned with.

Upgraded LT
Upgraded RT
Upgraded OG

Ohhhh, so he was ranked 31 instead of 32 at LG? Yeah, that's a HUGE improvement. Rolling Eyes
What have you seen in his play that you dont like?

What have you seen in his play that you DO like? The guy is average at the very, very best.

Slauson is better than the substitute players the Bears have had at LG but a lot of you guys are really overhyping this signing. Just because he played for the NYJ line doesn't mean he's awesome.
I don't think anyone is going overboard that much. Me, I just like the fact that he allegedly started the last three years. Shows durability which I think is critical.
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Madmike90 wrote:
Landru wrote:
Another 1 year contract...interesting.


For me the 1 year contracts are clear indication that Emery does not want to build this team in FA…he wants to draft for success and use FA as a fluid option to plug gaps until he can get the guys he wants in the draft…then drop the big money on home grown talent before they hit FA…that’s the smart way to build a team.
It is also a message to the roster than Emery/Trestman are going to require performance to stay and he is willing to wait until the FA lunacy which overpays guys every year passes. Though you could argue Bushrod was overpaid.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Bears sign former Jets OG Matt Slauson to a 1-year deal Reply with quote

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#Bears have agreed to terms with former Jets guard Matt Slauson on one-year contract.


http://twitter.com/ChicagoBears/statuses/317706555015446528
Wow, great news (not that I know anything about him other than the minimum). If this works out he could get a longer contract.

Kind of strange that the Jets made no effort to resign him since he had started 48 straight regular season games and several playoff games. Perhaps they have one of the big name tackles sighted in the draft.


He played in those games, did not start them all. He knew he was going to come here and be a starter. If I were a betting man, I would say it was not about the money.


He did start all those 48 games over the last 3 years...played in 3 his rookie year without starting.


Yeah, it was the rotating Ducasse in that made me say that about the starts. I stand corrected.
How did they do that, every half or quarter, more often? Do you know if there is a play count.

It is good information to consider since I was thinking that he is, like, playing every offensive play it shows durability. More so than if he is playing 50%.
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AZBearsFan wrote:
WindyCity wrote:
This season we need to move from terrible to professional and competent. To move to professional and competent would be a vast improvement and a move in the right direction.

I've been saying this for months. We don't NEED great individual linemen. We NEED a collection of 5 capable linemen. If you have 5 capable linemen then you have a good OL, almost certainly top 10. 5 elite players is a pipe dream.
/Even if you could find five elite players how could you pay them?
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WindyCity wrote:
AZBearsFan wrote:
WindyCity wrote:
This season we need to move from terrible to professional and competent. To move to professional and competent would be a vast improvement and a move in the right direction.

I've been saying this for months. We don't NEED great individual linemen. We NEED a collection of 5 capable linemen. If you have 5 capable linemen then you have a good OL, almost certainly top 10. 5 elite players is a pipe dream.


I think peoe have forgotten that we went to and NFC Championship game and won 10 games last season with a PATHETIC excuse for an OL.

Now we have improved at LT, LG and RT and we still have a draft infornt of us.

Even a small OL improvement means we are going from 10-6 and out of the playoffs to 11-5 or 12-4 and in the playoffs. If we had this OL in 2010 maybe we make the Superbowl?

Slauson individually is nothing special, but he is part of a much larger improvement.
Our line was playing quite well for much of the year. There were only a few games where it was bad.

Realistically how much do you expect this offense to improve next year? We were, what, 30th offensively? How much will it have to improve to offset the almost certain drop in our defense?

Whether we will make the playoffs will depend upon the offense improving MORE than the defense drops.
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