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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:14 pm    Post subject: Bimbo's 7-round Mock Reply with quote

I don't expect the Niners to keep all 7 picks, but this mock draft assumes they keep the picks. While the Niners are in the enviable position where they can afford to take BPA, I've prioritized a few positions of emphasis. I also see the Niners signing Nnamdi within the next couple weeks. He's realizing that his stock is low, and could sign a 1-year deal with the Niners to try and boost it for another try at FA next year. Based on how Goldson/RJF got paid, this might not be a bad idea.

Positions with Potential Impact in 2013:
- FS (Goldson Departure)
- NT (Soap Departure)
- TE (Walker Departure)
- KR/PR (Ginn Departure)

Potential Holes to Fill in 2014:
- DE (Justin Smith FA)
- SS (Donte Whitner FA)
- C (Jonathan Goodwin FA)

Quality Depth Needed Now and in the Future:
- OT
- TE
- CB
- OLB
- QB
- KR/PR

For the top half of the draft, I emphasized the 7 positions where we need contributors this year and next. From the 5th round on, I focused on depth.

(1) 31. Datone Jones DE - A top 20 talent that many mocks have dropping to the 2nd round. Would be a great understudy to Justin Smith, and could contribute as part of a 4-man nickle front in his Rookie year.
(2a) 34. Jonathan Cyprien SS - Arguably the top Safety prospect in the Draft. More of a SS than FS but is in the hybrid mold and could play both.
(2b) 61. John Jenkins NT - A unique talent that could step in right away and fill Soaps role on running downs. Wears down easily, but a true NT doesn't get a lot of snaps in this defense. I can imagine Harbaugh crafting some offensive plays where he can come in as a blocker.
(3a) 74. Travis Kelce TE - A high upside TE who will drop a round or so due to injury concerns. Very athletic, and can be used in a number of ways.
(3b) 93. Bacarri Rambo FS - With Goldson gone this year, and Whitner a FA next, I can picture the 9ers doubling down on safeties this year in a deep class. Rambo compares well to The Hawk and has the speed to play FS and move Cyprien to SS next year.
(4a) 128. Tyrann Mathieu CB - Another guy who will drop a bit due to concerns. Provides great depth at CB, and can be a dynamic PR/KR.
(4b) 131. Khaled Holmes C - A top 4 C prospect in this draft. Can compete with Kilgore/Looney to take over the starting spot next year, and can also switch over to G which adds to his value.
(5a) 157. Matt Scott QB - Kaepernick Light. Scott has the talent to be a starter one day, and would be a great understudy as he can run the same offense we have for Kaep.
(5b) 164. Cornelius Washington DE/OLB - High Upside / Measureable development player who would benefit from a few years behind ASmith and Brooks.
(6) 180. Ricky Wagner OT - High Effort / Character guy who will fit in with the team, and provide quality depth. Not a star, but the type of guy who will be ready if a starter goes down.
(7a) 227. Dustin Hopkins K - With so many picks, the niners can afford to spend one on the best kicker in the draft.
(7b) 237. Michael Williams TE - One of the best blocking TE's in the draft. Not a big athlete, but can essentially serve as a 3rd OT who can release and make some plays over the middle from time to time. A good fit for the Roman/Harbaugh offense.
(7c) 246. Kahlid Wooten CB/KR - CB prospect with some upside and return ability. Camp Fodder
(7d) 252. Justin Brown WR/KR - See above, but the WR version.

Depth Chart:

QB - Kaep/Tolzein/Scott
RB - Gore/Hunter/James/Dixon
FB - Miller/Dixon
WR1 - Crabtree/Manningham/Brown
WR2 - Bolden/Williams/Jenkins
TE - Davis/Kelce/Celek/Williams
ROT - Davis/Wagner
RG - Boone/Kilgore
C - Goodwin/Holmes/Kilgore
LG - Iupati/Looney
LOT - Staley/Boone

RDE - Smith/Jones
NT - Dorsey/Jenkins/Williams
LDE - McDonald/Dorsey
LOLB - Brooks/Washington
LILB - Willis/Fleming
RILB - Bowman/Skuta
ROLB - Smith/Haralson/Johnson
FS - Dahl /Rambo/Spillman
SS - Whitner/Cyprien/Robinson
CB1 - Rogers/Culliver/Mathieu
CB2 - Nnamdi/Brown/Cox

K - Dawson/Hopkins(practice squad)
P - Lee
KR - James/Hunter/Mathieu/Cox
PR - Mathieu/Williams/James/Cox

All in all, we patch some of our big holes, add a ton of depth, and set ourselves up to handle the loss of a few key pieces next year. We can start looking for Gore's replacement in the top part of next year's draft.

Let me know your thoughts!!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like every single pick. Don't know anything about the last two guys
Would be a happy man after this, if it happened
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

49ers Finest wrote:
I like every single pick. Don't know anything about the last two guys
Would be a happy man after this, if it happened
I agree 99% (with just a tiny nitpick Wink ) The only selection that doesn't make too much sense to me now is Hopkins with the signing of Dawson. What are the chances of us keeping two kickers (none) or Hopkins landing on the PS and lasting for long? Give me Ace Sanders in place of Matt Scott and I'm doing the mock draft jig through April... Bravo
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Psychlone wrote:
The only selection that doesn't make too much sense to me now is Hopkins with the signing of Dawson. What are the chances of us keeping two kickers (none) or Hopkins landing on the PS and lasting for long?


Hopkins will "get injured" just in time for us to stash him safely on I.R. Cool
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Yeah, it's a real good-looking mock.

A+++ for Datone J.

B- for Cyprien from me. I like, but don't love the value for him.

B for Jon J. The value's good.. not sure we really can squeeze him onto the roster, but okay.

A for Kelce... well-rounded TE at solid value.

A for Rambo as well.

B+ for Mathieu... can't beat that value, and I think he can be a very good NCB at the very least.

C for Holmes... just a "meh" player to me.

B+ for Scott... seems like a good fit.

A for CornWash... great value... not sure if he'll get too big for OLB. Looks like he'll fill out like Justin did over time.

A for Wagner.... swing tackle at good value!

A for the kicker!

C for Williams... ran so slow... plus, don't need with having Kelce and Celek.

INC for Justin Brown... I actually know nothing about him. Would have loved WR Jaron Brown from Clemson at this spot!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:17 am    Post subject: Re: Bimbo's 7-round Mock Reply with quote

bimbo_coles wrote:

(1) 31. Datone Jones DE - A top 20 talent that many mocks have dropping to the 2nd round. Would be a great understudy to Justin Smith, and could contribute as part of a 4-man nickle front in his Rookie year.


Love this pick.


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(2a) 34. Jonathan Cyprien SS - Arguably the top Safety prospect in the Draft. More of a SS than FS but is in the hybrid mold and could play both.


I'm a fan of Cyprien and have been for a while; i know that some people aren't, but I really like him.

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(2b) 61. John Jenkins NT - A unique talent that could step in right away and fill Soaps role on running downs. Wears down easily, but a true NT doesn't get a lot of snaps in this defense. I can imagine Harbaugh crafting some offensive plays where he can come in as a blocker.


can't beat the value here. I like it and with as much as we could rotate out, i don't feel like we'd have to worry about Jenkins' motor as much.

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(3a) 74. Travis Kelce TE - A high upside TE who will drop a round or so due to injury concerns. Very athletic, and can be used in a number of ways.


Another good pick to me. Kelce has steadily moved up in my preferences for tight ends. I watched him a lot at UC, and I really like his upside. Given the role he would play in our offense, i think his production would be similar to that of an eifert/ertz being taken at round 1 or 2, so i think this is really good value.

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(3b) 93. Bacarri Rambo FS - With Goldson gone this year, and Whitner a FA next, I can picture the 9ers doubling down on safeties this year in a deep class. Rambo compares well to The Hawk and has the speed to play FS and move Cyprien to SS next year.


For whatever reason, the last couple of weeks, i've really liked the idea of doubling down on safety in this draft within the first few rounds. add to that fact that I like Rambo as a prospect, and we have another winner.

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(4a) 128. Tyrann Mathieu CB - Another guy who will drop a bit due to concerns. Provides great depth at CB, and can be a dynamic PR/KR.
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Can't deny the value here, but i'm lukewarm on Mathieu as a prospect. I think we need bigger outside guys, and Mathieu will probably end up in the slot. Also, i think that his stock is steadily climbing and he will be off the board in the early third.

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(4b) 131. Khaled Holmes C - A top 4 C prospect in this draft. Can compete with Kilgore/Looney to take over the starting spot next year, and can also switch over to G which adds to his value.


Not a fan at all. I think he is overrated even as a 4/5th round prospect. Given me Quessenberry; love his versatility on the line.

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(5a) 157. Matt Scott QB - Kaepernick Light. Scott has the talent to be a starter one day, and would be a great understudy as he can run the same offense we have for Kaep.


Not on the Scott bandwagon as of yet; i think his stock is climbing too rapidly for what he is. He has decent upside, but i think he'll be gone far before this pick.

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(5b) 164. Cornelius Washington DE/OLB - High Upside / Measureable development player who would benefit from a few years behind ASmith and Brooks.


I'm good with this pick.

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(6) 180. Ricky Wagner OT - High Effort / Character guy who will fit in with the team, and provide quality depth. Not a star, but the type of guy who will be ready if a starter goes down.


I like going o-line depth later in the draft.

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(7a) 227. Dustin Hopkins K - With so many picks, the niners can afford to spend one on the best kicker in the draft.


Honestly, the pick is a good one, but I feel like it's a waste. we're not going to have him come in and compete with dawson, and we aren't going to waste a practice squad spot on a kicker. I know it's a round 7 selection, but just seems like a waste (that seems far too nitpicky, sorry)

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(7b) 237. Michael Williams TE - One of the best blocking TE's in the draft. Not a big athlete, but can essentially serve as a 3rd OT who can release and make some plays over the middle from time to time. A good fit for the Roman/Harbaugh offense.


I'm totally down for this. I'm a fan of celek, but nothing wrong with competition, and i like the versatility Williams provides.

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(7c) 246. Kahlid Wooten CB/KR - CB prospect with some upside and return ability. Camp Fodder
(7d) 252. Justin Brown WR/KR - See above, but the WR version.


don't know anything about these guys, so i'll leave it to someone with more knowledge.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Psychlone wrote:
49ers Finest wrote:
I like every single pick. Don't know anything about the last two guys
Would be a happy man after this, if it happened
I agree 99% (with just a tiny nitpick Wink ) The only selection that doesn't make too much sense to me now is Hopkins with the signing of Dawson. What are the chances of us keeping two kickers (none) or Hopkins landing on the PS and lasting for long? Give me Ace Sanders in place of Matt Scott and I'm doing the mock draft jig through April... Bravo


I love the draft as well, but I'm with Psychlone, I really don't see a need for Matt Scott on the roster. The Niners seem pretty high on Tolzein and there are a slew of vets out there that would kill to get a shot at making the roster.

I'd most certainly like to see Ace Sanders wind up on the team the return specialist. He's got value as a developmental WR/RB and he could contribute to the team right away as a STer/PR/KR. That's way too much versitility for teams to let slip up past the 5th round no matter how short he is.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the feedback ya'll. Definitely agree with a lot of the comments. Thought about targeting Ace, but I'm a big Kyle Williams fan (despite sitting in the north endzone during the Giants game with a perfect view to watch him blow our season) and I have a hard time seeing us carry two slot type receivers on the roster.

Regarding Holmes, I can also see us pursuing a pure Guard and banking on either Kilgore or Looney moving to Center. Early in the offseason I pictured us going after Jason Campbell, but without a veteran, I really picture Harbaulk targeting a QB in the draft. Scott seems like a natural choice considering his preference for athletes, but perhaps someone like Landry Jones falls.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey great draft I like it alot. I am not a big Datone Jones fan an wouldnt personally draft him untill the mid late second but I would support the pick an the way the rest of the draft went I have to say it makes it easier to except taking him there. Id like to of seen a WR earlier like 3rd rd or 4th rd an a different C, I dont like Holmes a whole lot.
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