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Thats Gross Man


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:26 pm    Post subject: Bears screwed up on Ogunleye/Booker trade Reply with quote

The Dolphins got a pretty solid reciever in Booker. The Bears got a good pass rusher in Ogunleye. If the trade would have been staight up then it would have been a fine trade but they gave up a third round pick which they won't have for this draft. They did this trade with the Dolphins wanting A-Train in a package deal with Booker but the Bears decided to trade the 3rd round pick instead even after having signed Thomas Jones and knowing he fit their system better. Now, A-Train is a goner because he wasn't effectively used last season and they won't get anything in return for him because he is a free agent. Just a little something to think about as the draft nears us.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think the third is more because booker is much older than ugun and they wouldnt give up a train just in case jones got hurt - which he did - so it wasnt a bad move - its only a third rounder - could be a lot worse
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would give up booker and a 3rd for 'wale in a second, even after his injury plagued season. Ogunleye is the perfect fit to Lovie's system and Booker was nothing more than a possession reciever who would have done little for us last season considering our qb/offensive problems. We may have given up a 3rd rounder that we would like to have now, but this draft is not very talented in any position compared to years prior. At most we lose out on a backup running back which is what we would have lost in A-train. To me it seems like a very good trade, one that i will be very happy about come next season when we have 'wale at full strength and he and that whole D are able to terrorize people like the monsters that they are
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:10 pm    Post subject: Last years Dolphins trade Reply with quote

[quote="beardown5883"]i would give up booker and a 3rd for 'wale in a second, even after his injury plagued season. Ogunleye is the perfect fit to Lovie's system and Booker was nothing more than a possession reciever who would have done little for us last season considering our qb/offensive problems. We may have given up a 3rd rounder that we would like to have now, but this draft is not very talented in any position compared to years prior. At most we lose out on a backup running back which is what we would have lost in A-train. To me it seems like a very good trade, one that i will be very happy about come next season when we have 'wale at full strength and he and that whole D are able to terrorize people like the monsters that they are[/quote]
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I agree with you! We've replaced Booker with a better receiver in Mohammad without having to give up a draft choice, so basically we got Oguneleye for a 3rd round pick in what's said to be the weakest overall draft in over a decade. That's a FINE trade! Wink

Remember that Oguneleye played hurt on a bad ankle over half the season last year and several times had two rookie DT's playing next to him. Our d-line is like a fine bottle of wine now... barring injuries, it will only get better with age!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if the trade was real good for the Dolphins because they're talking about Booker being let go.
How true it is I don't know.

O-Gun did good but not great.

The 3rd rounder doesn't hurt as much if you trade down a pick up a bit.

Train helped the Bears out last year but if the Dolphins were wanting Booker/Train for Gun then they would have needed to throw in a pick. I doubt they wanted to because of the high cap and lack of picks they already had.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:22 am    Post subject: Trade Reply with quote

I thought that the Ogunleye trade was good. Remember that he was hurt most of last season. I bet he has a monster year next year and picks up around 10 sacks. Call me crazy but we will just wait and see.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bears won that trade. Have you heard anything about Booker in Miami?!?!?!?!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trade worked out by far the best for the Bears. Just look at the upcomming DL rotation:

DE: Brown, O-Gun, & Haynes.
DT: Harris, Scott, & Tank.

That's a really sweet rotation on the DLine.

No slam on Book, just that we really needed a talent like O-Gun.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We will see if he can get 10+ sacks without JT on the other side now wont we
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and JT went from 13 sacks down to 9.5 so what's your point?? Alex Brown will be a force this year and I see him getting 8-10 sacks, and O-gun getting about 12-15.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SlidellSaint wrote:
The Bears won that trade. Have you heard anything about Booker in Miami?!?!?!?!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Yeah booker didnt do anything, good call
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean he went from 13 to 9.5..i think he got more than 10 this year durrr
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

duurrrr... he got 9.5 - check for yourself:

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/4370
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he was also injured the whole year and didnt tell anybody until after the season - 9.5 with a bumbed ankle is not bad.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't get me wrong - I think Taylor is a very good DE... I'm just saying that he got those big numbers with help from O-gun... and vice versa. I think that Alex Brown turned a corner last year and I see him and O-gun putting up some good numbers this year.
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