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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Save The Hero wrote:
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Now we just need a RT. Boothe is a pretty good player even if he's awkwardly proportioned Laughing


RT Vollmer's deal was 4 year $17m. Thats a little frustrating


No offense Esky, but where are you getting those numbers? Im seeing 4 year 27 million with would be right around 7 million for a RT. Not worth that imo.


No offence taking bro. Rotoworld. Base value
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5313/sebastian-vollmer

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Patriots RT Sebastian Vollmer's four-year contract has a base value of just $17 million, with $8.25 million guaranteed.

It's a significantly below-market contract for one of the game's premier right tackles, and a steal of a deal for the Patriots. The big payment is a $7 million signing bonus, but Vollmer's base salaries are (relatively) dirt cheap throughout the contract's life and his New England future will be year to year beyond 2013. The max value, including incentives, is $27 million.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2013 cap hit $3mill for Vollmer

Btw I'm not saying we should go after big FA or anything because I prefer cheaper vets and draft. It's just this year seems to some excellent talent at good prices getting signed and we still mucking around with the likes of Diehl is frustrating.

We done a great job of cutting dead weight and signing value. I just think we could be financially set up better for FAs that are still out there. Now Boothe has resigned we don't have any glaring holes but I think we could always be improving our 53 over what it is
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the signing, I don't think that Boothe is a long term player at the position, but he does provide a familiar face until perhaps a future draft selection is ready to step up.

Imo...I think Boothe does an adequate job of protection but it could be much better.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

another interesting twist to this signing... with Boothe being brought back, and the only position of question really being RT, I think we can take Cooper off the table as being the pick. Does anyone else see the team bringing in a first round o-lineman and NOT starting him (realizing it TC's thing not to start rooks, but still)? Since it keeps the line together and they don't have to go out and bring in a "body" to compete, I think that really takes o-line out of the running on Day 1.

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dkebones wrote:
another interesting twist to this signing... with Boothe being brought back, and the only position of question really being RT, I think we can take Cooper off the table as being the pick. Does anyone else see the team bringing in a first round o-lineman and NOT starting him (realizing it TC's thing not to start rooks, but still)? Since it keeps the line together and they don't have to go out and bring in a "body" to compete, I think that really takes o-line out of the running on Day 1.

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I think there still remains a need for guard. The fact that the contract was a one year deal tells me Jerry Reese is looking to move another direction in 2014. Late round pick Mosley may be that direction or it could come in this years draft, but I do agree it most likely won't be a first round selection.
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https://twitter.com/RVacchianoNYDN/status/316682116886831104

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Meanwhile, the 1-year deal signed by G Kevin Boothe is worth just $905,000 w/an $840,000 salary. Will count for only $555,000 against cap.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prior to the offseason it sounded like Boothe was looking to cash in somewhere. He must feel pretty bummed out with that contract. I guess teams just don't view him as a great player. Even Reese's comments after he re-signed seemed a bit strange. He said something along the lines of 'Boothe brings versatility and depth to the Giants'... ??? He's been starting for two years, and he's looked pretty darn solid. I know he's not a world beater, but we could certainly do worse.
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On Vollmer, just can't afford him right now. We are spending the 2nd or 3rd most on the oline in the NFL in 2013 and have sizable contracts there for years to come. We can't afford to pay big money to LG or RT.

On that Boothe contract, wow. I thought he was worth more than that. Glad we got him back for so cheap.
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To be 100% honest I think Boothe is worth over double that. That's an awesome job by Reece again
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I can't believe they got him for vet min. I thought for sure it was at least $1.5 mil. Another Giants bargain. Everyone except for Myers and Beatty were vet min. Be patient and good players and deals will come.
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also takes my prognostication about a rookie lineman in round 1 right off the table; a #19 rookie is going to make marginally less than Boothe (couple hundred grand less)... this business can be whack! Laughing
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dkebones wrote:
also takes my prognostication about a rookie lineman in round 1 right off the table; a #19 rookie is going to make marginally less than Boothe (couple hundred grand less)... this business can be whack! Laughing


The #19 pick rookie salary will be in the area of $1.5m when u add the signing bonus with the wage scale.
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also takes my prognostication about a rookie lineman in round 1 right off the table; a #19 rookie is going to make marginally less than Boothe (couple hundred grand less)... this business can be whack! Laughing


The #19 pick rookie salary will be in the area of $1.5m when u add the signing bonus with the wage scale.


ah, right, i was forgetting about the signing bonus Smile even more support to my point!
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