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nicfre2011


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:27 am    Post subject: Hypothetical 2013 draft trade scenario Reply with quote

Hey guys, Chiefs fan here. I didn't really see a thread to put this in, so I hope you don't mind me creating a topic, but I wanted to run a hypothetical trade scenario by you guys relating to the Cleveland Browns to get your take.

In this scenario this is how the top picks go including some trades :

The Kansas City Chiefs trade their 2013 first round pick (#1) to the Philadelphia Eagles in exchange for their 2013 first round pick (#4), their 2013 second round pick (#35), and a 2014 third round pick.

Pick #1 (3,000) Philadelphia Eagles (from Kansas City Chiefs : Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia Mountaineers (Senior)
Pick #2 (2,600) Jacksonville Jaguars : Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon Ducks (Senior)
Pick #3 (2,200) Oakland Raiders : Sharrif Floyd, DT/DE, Florida Gators (Junior)

The Kansas City Chiefs trade their 2013 first round pick (#4) acquired from the Philadelphia Eagles to the Arizona Cardinals in exchange for their 2013 first round pick (#7) and their 2013 second round pick (#38 ).

Pick #4 (1,800) Arizona Cardinals : Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M Aggies (Junior)
Pick #5 (1,700) Detroit Lions : Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama Crimson Tide (Junior)

The Cleveland Browns trade their 2013 first round pick (#6) to the San Diego Chargers in exchange for their 2013 first round pick (#11) and their 2013 second round pick (#45).

Pick #6 (1,600) San Diego Chargers (from Cleveland Browns) : Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan Chippewas (Senior)
Pick #7 (1,500) Kansas City Chiefs (from Arizona Cardinals) : Star Lotulelei, NT/DE, Utah Utes (Senior)
Pick #8 (1,400) Buffalo Bills : Ezekiel Ansah, DE/OLB, BYU Tigers (Senior)
Pick #9 (1,350) New York Jets : Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU Tigers (Senior)
Pick #10 (1,300) Tennessee Titans : Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri Tigers (Junior)
Pick #11 (1,250) Cleveland Browns (from San Diego Chargers) : ?

My question is, would you take that trade with San Diego? Also, who would you select at #11 in this scenario.

Also, as a result of Philadelphia trading up for Geno Smith, they contact the Cleveland Browns draft war room and offer quarterback Nick Foles to the Cleveland Browns in exchange for their 2013 third round pick (#68 ).

Do you trade for Nick Foles to provide some young competition for Brandon Weeden?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd go with Xavier Rhodes or Kenny Vaccaro here.

Don't sleep on Austin though.


Hell, at 11, they may even take Warmack.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nugpimpen wrote:
I'd go with Xavier Rhodes or Kenny Vaccaro here.

Don't sleep on Austin though.


Hell, at 11, they may even take Warmack.


I was definitely thinking Rhodes and maybe Vaccaro would be options. I honestly didn't really consider Austin or Warmack. Also, what do you think of the Nick Foles trade offer?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicfre2011 wrote:
nugpimpen wrote:
I'd go with Xavier Rhodes or Kenny Vaccaro here.

Don't sleep on Austin though.


Hell, at 11, they may even take Warmack.


I was definitely thinking Rhodes and maybe Vaccaro would be options. I honestly didn't really consider Austin or Warmack. Also, what do you think of the Nick Foles trade offer?


Foles for a 3rd isn't horrible. I'm not real high on him, but I'm not exactly a QB guru lol.

Warmack could be an option because he's probably BPA and our GM is random as hell, even though I don't want to draft him that high.

Austin is a wildcard because he would make our offense very talented and multi dimensional.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhodes in a heartbeat. I would love if the draft played out like that.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CleBrowns07 wrote:
Rhodes in a heartbeat. I would love if the draft played out like that.


Yep

Then we can pick up a FS or TE in the 2nd.

Preferably FS
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it comes down to if we sign Grimes. If we do, we better take Vaccaro there in a heartbeat. Also, if we are trading out of the top 10 to a team who is trading up to draft Fisher, who they feel is their franchise left tackle, we better get more then just a second round pick in the middle of the round. An extra 1st or 2nd the next year better be thrown in.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has to be Rhodes if we don't sign grimes. If we do sigh grimes then the options are wide open at that spot.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CleBrowns07 wrote:
Rhodes in a heartbeat. I would love if the draft played out like that.


I agree with this 100%. Being able to recoup a 2nd rounder would be huge in my opinion.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchjstnk wrote:
I think it comes down to if we sign Grimes. If we do, we better take Vaccaro there in a heartbeat. Also, if we are trading out of the top 10 to a team who is trading up to draft Fisher, who they feel is their franchise left tackle, we better get more then just a second round pick in the middle of the round. An extra 1st or 2nd the next year better be thrown in.


I don't see that type of compensation for a trade going from #6 to #11.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Has to be Rhodes if we don't sign grimes. If we do sigh grimes then the options are wide open at that spot.


Do you think Grimes would be brought in on a multi-year contract or a 1-year "prove it" deal? If so, I don't know that I would necessarily rule out Rhodes even if Grimes was brought on board.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicfre2011 wrote:
mchjstnk wrote:
I think it comes down to if we sign Grimes. If we do, we better take Vaccaro there in a heartbeat. Also, if we are trading out of the top 10 to a team who is trading up to draft Fisher, who they feel is their franchise left tackle, we better get more then just a second round pick in the middle of the round. An extra 1st or 2nd the next year better be thrown in.


I don't see that type of compensation for a trade going from #6 to #11.


I'd agree

No way we get more than a 2nd to move down 5 spots.

They aren't trading up for RGIII


I am thinkin the Grimes deal could be 3 years. That's my hope at least.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warmack for me still BPA
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicfre2011 wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
Has to be Rhodes if we don't sign grimes. If we do sigh grimes then the options are wide open at that spot.


Do you think Grimes would be brought in on a multi-year contract or a 1-year "prove it" deal? If so, I don't know that I would necessarily rule out Rhodes even if Grimes was brought on board.


I think the browns are offering a multiyear contract, however I don't think the length of grimes contract will determine who we will draft. what it will do is lower the aspect of positional need and let the browns focus more on true BPA. If Rhodes is the best available at that point then great. Same with signing Grimes and still being able to draft milliner at 6.


Oh,and there is also the interesting possibility of moving grimes to FS if another CB is drafted, similar to what KC just did with signing Robinson.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:09 pm    Post subject: hmmm Reply with quote

I would pick Warmack at #11 and not think twice. TRich behind Mack, Thomas, and Warmack.... 2000+ yard season Shocked Well maybe not that much but he'll get a lot of yards.

CB/S can be picked up in the 2nd or 3rd. Really deep year for DBs.

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