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Who do you draft #6?
QB EJ Manuel, Florida State
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QB Matt Barkley, Southern California
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WR Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee
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WR Tavon Austin, West Virginia
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T Lane Johnson, Oklahoma
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G Chance Warmack, Alabama
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G Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina
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DT Sharrif Floyd, Florida
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DT Sheldon Richardson, Missourri
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DE Bjoern Werner, Florida State
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DE Ezekiel Ansah, Brigham Young
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LB Dion Jordan, Oregon
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LB Barkevious Mingo, LSU
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LB Jarvis Jones, Georgia
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CB Xavier Rhodes, Florida State
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S Kenny Vacarro, Texas
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Other player, post your choice below
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bruceb


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
FEARtheELF wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
FEARtheELF wrote:
I took Warmack.....he is gonna be a difference maker on the line. Potential to be one of the greats


ridiculously idiotic to take a guard at 6


With the potential to be one of the best blockers and the importance of the guard in the power run game and Trent Richardson as your running back, you should consider it with what is left on the board


should not consider a guard until the top of the second even if it was john hannah

I'd take Bruce Matthews in the 1st mainly because at least he played tackle at a pro bowl level


He actually was All-Pro as a guard and center.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
FEARtheELF wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
FEARtheELF wrote:
I took Warmack.....he is gonna be a difference maker on the line. Potential to be one of the greats


ridiculously idiotic to take a guard at 6


With the potential to be one of the best blockers and the importance of the guard in the power run game and Trent Richardson as your running back, you should consider it with what is left on the board


should not consider a guard until the top of the second even if it was john hannah

I'd take Bruce Matthews in the 1st mainly because at least he played tackle at a pro bowl level


He actually was All-Pro as a guard and center.


you're right. i was mistaken. he made the pro-bowl after he switched from tackle.

i'd take him in the 20's for the all pro at center. as high as i'd take him.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
FEARtheELF wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
FEARtheELF wrote:
I took Warmack.....he is gonna be a difference maker on the line. Potential to be one of the greats


ridiculously idiotic to take a guard at 6


With the potential to be one of the best blockers and the importance of the guard in the power run game and Trent Richardson as your running back, you should consider it with what is left on the board


should not consider a guard until the top of the second even if it was john hannah

I'd take Bruce Matthews in the 1st mainly because at least he played tackle at a pro bowl level


He actually was All-Pro as a guard and center.


you're right. i was mistaken. he made the pro-bowl after he switched from tackle.

i'd take him in the 20's for the all pro at center. as high as i'd take him.


Wow! Ditch and MBTL both wrong on the same night and admitting it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVSRm80WzZk
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
FEARtheELF wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
FEARtheELF wrote:
I took Warmack.....he is gonna be a difference maker on the line. Potential to be one of the greats


ridiculously idiotic to take a guard at 6


With the potential to be one of the best blockers and the importance of the guard in the power run game and Trent Richardson as your running back, you should consider it with what is left on the board


should not consider a guard until the top of the second even if it was john hannah

I'd take Bruce Matthews in the 1st mainly because at least he played tackle at a pro bowl level


He actually was All-Pro as a guard and center.


you're right. i was mistaken. he made the pro-bowl after he switched from tackle.

i'd take him in the 20's for the all pro at center. as high as i'd take him.


Wow! Ditch and MBTL both wrong on the same night and admitting it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVSRm80WzZk


unlike you, i'm not opposed to admitting when i was wrong
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
FEARtheELF wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
FEARtheELF wrote:
I took Warmack.....he is gonna be a difference maker on the line. Potential to be one of the greats


ridiculously idiotic to take a guard at 6


With the potential to be one of the best blockers and the importance of the guard in the power run game and Trent Richardson as your running back, you should consider it with what is left on the board


should not consider a guard until the top of the second even if it was john hannah

I'd take Bruce Matthews in the 1st mainly because at least he played tackle at a pro bowl level


He actually was All-Pro as a guard and center.


you're right. i was mistaken. he made the pro-bowl after he switched from tackle.

i'd take him in the 20's for the all pro at center. as high as i'd take him.


Wow! Ditch and MBTL both wrong on the same night and admitting it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVSRm80WzZk


There is a great lulz potential here...I feel it!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
FEARtheELF wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
FEARtheELF wrote:
I took Warmack.....he is gonna be a difference maker on the line. Potential to be one of the greats


ridiculously idiotic to take a guard at 6


With the potential to be one of the best blockers and the importance of the guard in the power run game and Trent Richardson as your running back, you should consider it with what is left on the board


Warmack should definitely be in the conversation.


No, he should be so far out of the conversation that bringing him into the conversation gets you banned from the conversation


I agree 100%. We dont need all pros across the line to compete in this league. We already have two #1 picks on the line and an early 2nd rounder.
You guys really think we can afford them all when they're up for an extension? It's been said many times before so I'll say it again, taking gaurd in the 1st is a luxury pick, not one you make at 6 overall. Especially with guys like Jordan ( who i'd take in that scenario) Ansah, and Rhodes.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted Mingo but Dion Jordan was a close second. Also would consider Coraddell Peterson depending on the rest of free agency.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

roger murdock wrote:
I voted Mingo but Dion Jordan was a close second. Also would consider Coraddell Peterson depending on the rest of free agency.


I don't like a guard or project WR at pick 6.

A guard at 6........no. Even if I knew for a fact the guy would be a hall of fame guard I still wouldn't take him at 6.

I have no idea who I want at 6 this year. I just know what I dont want at 6.

I dont want a guard. I dont want any of these WRs. I don't want any of the QBs.

I WANT to trade down, as I usually do.

I guess I would like a stud defender
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
bruceb wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
FEARtheELF wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
FEARtheELF wrote:
I took Warmack.....he is gonna be a difference maker on the line. Potential to be one of the greats


ridiculously idiotic to take a guard at 6


With the potential to be one of the best blockers and the importance of the guard in the power run game and Trent Richardson as your running back, you should consider it with what is left on the board


should not consider a guard until the top of the second even if it was john hannah

I'd take Bruce Matthews in the 1st mainly because at least he played tackle at a pro bowl level


He actually was All-Pro as a guard and center.


you're right. i was mistaken. he made the pro-bowl after he switched from tackle.

i'd take him in the 20's for the all pro at center. as high as i'd take him.


Wow! Ditch and MBTL both wrong on the same night and admitting it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVSRm80WzZk


Love the twilight zone!

They both have strong opinions and don't change them to please the masses, and I am cool with that. Same can be said for you.

If anyone disagrees with that... Then I take it back. I just want to be loved!

Is that so wrong?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know who I want. I guess I am so confident in this team that it doesn't matter. I wish we could magically turn #6 into 3 early 2nd rounders. I don't think we need a play maker as much as we need to fill some gaps.


I'd be happy with a 2nd round CB, Safety and LB.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I picked Rhodes, based on the OP. I would love a trade down as much as a lot of others in here, but if Milliner is gone, and we don't sign another CB, I feel we have to pick Rhodes. It is a reach at 6, but CB is our biggest team need. If we sign Grimes, I'd take Jordan. I like Ansah's ceiling, but how he hell old is he?

I like Warmack, but he is not worth a 6. When I think of great all-time offensive lines, I think of the Cowboys. Larry Allen was one of their guards, and he was a 2nd rounder. Newton played guard for them(and tackle), and he was undrafted. We can draft a guard in he mid to late rounds. Put him between Thomas and Mack, or Mack and Schwartz. He'll have solid OL on both sides of him, making it easier. I'm not sold on anyone at 6, and it would suck if we can't trade down. However, if that's the hand we're dealt, so be it. It wouldn't surprise me. I just hope whomever we draft can be a game-changing presence on our team and help make us better.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys, I get that some see all pro potential in Warmack, but the value is not even close.

Not only is an OG one of the least valued position in the game, but our offensive line is already top 10ish

Remember how many salivated over Decastro last year and then he played like crap before getting hurt?


We can plug in decent guards and be fine.

Hell, even with our guard play last year, Weeden had a ton of time.

I think our running game took a hit because TRich was playing hurt.

Yes there were plays where our Guards blew, but that happens anywhere.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nugpimpen wrote:
Guys, I get that some see all pro potential in Warmack, but the value is not even close.

Not only is an OG one of the least valued position in the game, but our offensive line is already top 10ish

Remember how many salivated over Decastro last year and then he played like crap before getting hurt?


We can plug in decent guards and be fine.

Hell, even with our guard play last year, Weeden had a ton of time.

I think our running game took a hit because TRich was playing hurt.

Yes there were plays where our Guards blew, but that happens anywhere.


+1 to this... I want a playmaker on defense, not an offensive guard.
Now, I know how most people on this board feel about Tony Grossi (I feel like since he was fired from the PD, he's gotten a little better, but that's neither here nor there), but in his latest edition of Hey Tony he wrote this:
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I find it odd that the same people who complain about the Browns’ guards’ ability to pull or execute the screen play tout Warmack as the answer to everything. The big man is 317 pounds and ran a 5.49 40 at the combine. He’s not exactly a reincarnation of Gene Hickerson, or even Eric Steinbach, in terms of agility. Also, I’m tired of the argument that adding Warmack would lift the Browns’ offensive line to the top of the league. Sure, the Browns could use an upgrade at guard, but I would not devote a high pick to the position.

... and I think he's right. So as Nug said, let's try to upgrade the position, but not with a first rounder.

I voted for Jordan btw... if it's between him and Ansah, I just feel more comfortable on getting him. I really like Rhodes and his physicality, but I feel like the talent gap between Jordan and Rhodes at #6 takes precedence.

(Edit: adding link to hey tony article http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=18&post_id=14871)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warmack would NOT be my first choice either, nr was he my vote, but to completely disregard him as an option would be a "mistake" in my opinion. I think you have to look at all the options available, and not be so closed minded.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I picked Dion Jordan. I think he would be the perfect compliment to Kruger on the opposite side due to Kruger being more of a pass rush specialist and Jordan being an extremely versitle type LB. Do the Browns need DB help, yes they do but I do not see any other corner worth 6th overall besides Millner.

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