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big_palooka


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Chali21 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
I am hoping for Barkley in the 2nd.

IMO, he's going to surprise people. His senior season he was pressing to much. He's a smart, savvy player w/ a good enough arm. His Junior year he was in the conversation as a top QB in should he come out.

Bad coaching and Oline last year. Give him some protection and he will be a fine QB.


I agree with this, kid's got great footwork and accuracy. If we take him I won't be mad.


I'd rather go elsewhere in the 2nd if we get a pick there though. We could get good value at other positions. There will be better QB prospects than Barkley. I will be a little upset if we swing a deal and pick up a 2nd and pick him. And I like USC and Barkley


Sio Moore is my must have in the 2nd if he's on the board.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
Chali21 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
I am hoping for Barkley in the 2nd.

IMO, he's going to surprise people. His senior season he was pressing to much. He's a smart, savvy player w/ a good enough arm. His Junior year he was in the conversation as a top QB in should he come out.

Bad coaching and Oline last year. Give him some protection and he will be a fine QB.


I agree with this, kid's got great footwork and accuracy. If we take him I won't be mad.


I'd rather go elsewhere in the 2nd if we get a pick there though. We could get good value at other positions. There will be better QB prospects than Barkley. I will be a little upset if we swing a deal and pick up a 2nd and pick him. And I like USC and Barkley


Sio Moore is my must have in the 2nd if he's on the board.


Mine is Jamar Taylor if he's there but I doubt it. I also would like Robert Woods.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamie Collins is mine, although I think he goes in the 20s. Going to be a stud blitzer/3rd down pass rusher and a good overall 4-3/3-4 OLB.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

S. Moore, Taylor, Warford are my 3 cant miss guys in the 2nd if they last that long. Be happy with any one of them.
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If we snag a 2nd I want Warford.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Most likely it means nothing. But the Raiders website recently changed Wiz's position from C to C/G. Maybe possible move back to OG.

I check the roster often so I know it wasnt like that last Friday.


Could be bad. Most swing interior OL are listed as OG/C (ie: Parsons, Slauson, etc)
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I'll take Cyprien, Carradine or Sly Williams if any are there in the 2nd
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Silver&Black88 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
Chali21 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
I am hoping for Barkley in the 2nd.

IMO, he's going to surprise people. His senior season he was pressing to much. He's a smart, savvy player w/ a good enough arm. His Junior year he was in the conversation as a top QB in should he come out.

Bad coaching and Oline last year. Give him some protection and he will be a fine QB.


I agree with this, kid's got great footwork and accuracy. If we take him I won't be mad.


I'd rather go elsewhere in the 2nd if we get a pick there though. We could get good value at other positions. There will be better QB prospects than Barkley. I will be a little upset if we swing a deal and pick up a 2nd and pick him. And I like USC and Barkley


Sio Moore is my must have in the 2nd if he's on the board.


Mine is Jamar Taylor if he's there but I doubt it. I also would like Robert Woods.

+1. I really like Taylor but I can't see Reggie drafting a CB that high given his history. Definitely my pick though unless there is a run in CBs late in the 1st.

Woods is gonna be a stud for somebody. Very versatile.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I really like Taylor but I can't see Reggie drafting a CB that high given his history.


Not sure what you're refering to.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I really like Taylor but I can't see Reggie drafting a CB that high given his history.


Not sure what you're refering to.


Me neither. Weren't there rumors he would have taken Janoris Jenkins with our 1st last year?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver&Black88 wrote:
oakdb36 wrote:
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I really like Taylor but I can't see Reggie drafting a CB that high given his history.


Not sure what you're refering to.


Me neither. Weren't there rumors he would have taken Janoris Jenkins with our 1st last year?


End of the day, I think Reggie takes the BPA as his philosophy suggests.

His FA signings were evident in this. He signed players to 1 year deals at key spots. He has stopgap starters at every position now.

He eliminated the desperation need approach. Now he can fill in with the BPA at any position to compete.

I love the approach. There are starters in place and the attention turns to finding the BPA to push those stop signings.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I really like Taylor but I can't see Reggie drafting a CB that high given his history.


Not sure what you're refering to.


I should have said the Packers recent history. The past 5 years with Reggie their highest drafted corner was Davon House in the 4th round I believe. They brought in a lot of late founders or UDFA.

This year is an unknown so who knows. Probably go BPA if they get a 2nd.
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RaiderX wrote:
oakdb36 wrote:
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I really like Taylor but I can't see Reggie drafting a CB that high given his history.


Not sure what you're refering to.


I should have said the Packers recent history. The past 5 years with Reggie their highest drafted corner was Davon House in the 4th round I believe. They brought in a lot of late founders or UDFA.

This year is an unknown so who knows. Probably go BPA if they get a 2nd.


McKenzie was already gone but they drafted Casey Hayward in the 2nd last year. They drafted Pat Lee in the 2nd in 2008. They also had Al Harris and Charles Woodson starting at CB from 2006 to 09. CB wasn't a huge need. Then they got lucky with Williams and Shields.
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Miami working on a trade with KC for Albert. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Miami working on a trade with KC for Albert. Evil or Very Mad


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NFL.com's Ian Rapoport "hears" the Dolphins are indeed interested in trading for Chiefs LT Branden Albert.
However, the big question, according to Rapoport, is if the Chiefs would be willing to accept the Dolphins' late second-round pick -- No. 54 overall -- instead of the No. 42 overall selection. SI's Peter King recently said the Chiefs would deal Albert for a "high second-round pick." We'd bet Kansas City would take either pick in exchange for the 29-year-old.


Remove the Dolphins, there is plenty of other teams needing a LT
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