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49ers Finest
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i think you guys cut him
baltimore signs him. then he somehow plays pretty well
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| 49ers Finest wrote: | i think you guys cut him
baltimore signs him. then he somehow plays pretty well |
Would you guys sign him if you lose Larry Grant?
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TiberiusRising
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Why would a good team care about giving up a 6th or 7th round pick for a 22 year old with huge potential.
The money wont be an issue because he will have to redo his contract in any event.
McClain is inmature for sure. But the Raiders failed him just as much as he did them. He is going to be a good player if he goes to a solid locker room.
As someone said before what we get will ultimately come down to how he sells himself. |
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3 MILE LYLE
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Imo no team will trade a pick this year. I see conditional pick in 14 |
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Raidin
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| 3 MILE LYLE wrote: | | Imo no team will trade a pick this year. I see conditional pick in 14 |
Cant get a conditional pick on a player you cut.
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Justwinbaby81 gives Rolando McClain permission to eat shht
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OakRaiders3828
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| Raidin wrote: | | 3 MILE LYLE wrote: | | Imo no team will trade a pick this year. I see conditional pick in 14 |
Cant get a conditional pick on a player you cut. |
Conditional, not Compensatory.
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DOCLEW 28
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Raidin wrote: | | 3 MILE LYLE wrote: | | Imo no team will trade a pick this year. I see conditional pick in 14 |
Cant get a conditional pick on a player you cut. |
Thatis conditional from the team trading for him. Not compensatory from the league.
If a team trades for him it may be for a pick in 2014, is what I think 3 MILE meant.
I have a feeling that if he is not traded by draft weekend he may be cut on June 1st. Screw him. He can try to catch on somewhere late.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Woops, brush up on my reading.
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| TiberiusRising wrote: | Why would a good team care about giving up a 6th or 7th round pick for a 22 year old with huge potential.
The money wont be an issue because he will have to redo his contract in any event.
McClain is inmature for sure. But the Raiders failed him just as much as he did them. He is going to be a good player if he goes to a solid locker room.
As someone said before what we get will ultimately come down to how he sells himself. |
So much fail here. "Huge potential"?! Where is that? Slow to react, can't get off blocks, can't tackle and can't cover?
The Raiders failed him how? Gave him a starting job and he failed them. The Raiders had some solid vet leadership in their locker room. McClain was a punk from day 1.
Unless he MAGICALLY becomes lighter on his feet and learns to tackle he is worthless. Backup at best in the NFL.
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TiberiusRising
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| big_palooka wrote: | | TiberiusRising wrote: | Why would a good team care about giving up a 6th or 7th round pick for a 22 year old with huge potential.
The money wont be an issue because he will have to redo his contract in any event.
McClain is inmature for sure. But the Raiders failed him just as much as he did them. He is going to be a good player if he goes to a solid locker room.
As someone said before what we get will ultimately come down to how he sells himself. |
So much fail here. "Huge potential"?! Where is that? Slow to react, can't get off blocks, can't tackle and can't cover?
The Raiders failed him how? Gave him a starting job and he failed them. The Raiders had some solid vet leadership in their locker room. McClain was a punk from day 1.
Unless he MAGICALLY becomes lighter on his feet and learns to tackle he is worthless. Backup at best in the NFL. |
When healthy he actually had covered better than advertised. Slow to react? probably. Wrong scheme and no proper coaching? definatley.
We failed him by giving him a starting job instead of earning it when he was what 19 or 20, 3 DC's, 3LB coaches.
And who was the solid vet leadership?
Seymour who benched himself so he could be released this season. And who also sat most practices and offseason that he was here.
Don't take this as me defending him. The things he did were childish and inmature. And he got away with it until late last season. But the player doesn't always fit the team or its structure. I think had we drafted him this year for instance with solid locker room, returning coaches, a GM, players not getting overvalued then we would have seen a much different output from him. |
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big_palooka
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| TiberiusRising wrote: | | big_palooka wrote: | | TiberiusRising wrote: | Why would a good team care about giving up a 6th or 7th round pick for a 22 year old with huge potential.
The money wont be an issue because he will have to redo his contract in any event.
McClain is inmature for sure. But the Raiders failed him just as much as he did them. He is going to be a good player if he goes to a solid locker room.
As someone said before what we get will ultimately come down to how he sells himself. |
So much fail here. "Huge potential"?! Where is that? Slow to react, can't get off blocks, can't tackle and can't cover?
The Raiders failed him how? Gave him a starting job and he failed them. The Raiders had some solid vet leadership in their locker room. McClain was a punk from day 1.
Unless he MAGICALLY becomes lighter on his feet and learns to tackle he is worthless. Backup at best in the NFL. |
When healthy he actually had covered better than advertised. Slow to react? probably. Wrong scheme and no proper coaching? definatley.
We failed him by giving him a starting job instead of earning it when he was what 19 or 20, 3 DC's, 3LB coaches.
And who was the solid vet leadership?
Seymour who benched himself so he could be released this season.
Don't take this as me defending him. The things he did were childish and inmature. And he got away with it until late last season. But the player doesn't always fit the team or its structure. I think had we drafted him this year for instance with solid locker room, returning coaches, a GM, players not getting overvalued then we would have seen a much different output from him. |
He was the consensus #1 LB in the 2010 draft. A day 1 starter by all account who led the Crimson Tide's vaunted championship defense.
Sorry, I don't care how old he is. Poor leader, poor player. Those are facts. He was drafted as the safe pick MLB to be the leader of the defense and he was a punk who gave nothing, period.
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I still doubt that were going to be able to get anything in return. MAYBE a seventh, which is better than nothing, but its also just as likely that teams just wait until we release him because either way Rolando isnt wearing silver and black next season.
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Mr.Bob Dobalina
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Who in their right mind would trade for slowlando McClain?    |
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| Nodisrespect wrote: | McKenzie cutting DHB and Huff was a sign of respect for there efforts, but McClain will be afforded no such luxury.
He will be let go right before training camp when his value is almost nothing, and he probably won't play this year, he going to lose a ton of money over this...................and all i can do is |
This is why the Raiders put it in his agents hands to find his client a team and most likely will have to promise a pay cut or risk his client not catching on with another if we dont actaully release him until training camp. Atmost it will probably be a 6th but hey something better than nothing.
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