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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:19 pm    Post subject: Daintrain28's Mock Offseason 2013 v.21.0 Reply with quote

Scenario:
~We are awarded a 4th round compensatory pick for Matt Flynn

Released/Not resigned/Retired:
~Cedric Benson
~Jeff Saturday
~Charles Woodson
~Donald Driver
~Greg Jennings
~Tom Crabtree

Resigned:
~Evan Dietrich Smith


~Sam Shields


The Draft:
With the 26th pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select...
Keenan Allen WR California
6’2” 215. 4.49/40


It pains me to go WR in Round 1, however, Minnesota’s signing of Jennings means Allen is probably going to slide past them - and realistically probably will be the BPA at #26. Plus, as spilltray pointed out, Nelson and JJ are BOTH FAs next year so TT may be looking for their replacements.

The guy is undervalued as all get out - another sign that TT should fall in love with him. Played with a poor QB and toughed out nagging injuries, but he’s got the size needed to play WR in MM’s offense, and is good at breaking tackles and picking up YAC.

Plus he can return punts which should take Coob off RS duty.

With the 58th pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select...
Montee Ball RB Wisconsin
5’11” 210 lbs. 4.60/40


I’ve kept him out of my mock drafts for quite sometime because I don’t want to look like a Homer. But I am beginning to think he might be perfect for us.

The guy is deceptively big, and like Lacy he runs with a great blend of power, burst and elusiveness. Plus he ran behind a ZBS for four years at WI, so we know he can do it. BTW, this is the All-Time NCAA TD leader. There is something to be said for drafting someone who has a nose for the endzone.

With the 90th pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select...
J.J. Wilcox S Georgia Southern
6’0” 213 lbs. 4.58/40


One of those small school prospects that doesn’t have the slightest clue what the heck he is doing but has the athleticism you just cannot teach.

He is a project, there is no doubt about it, but man he could be a great developmental player to bring along slowly. Plus he can also return kicks and punts.

With the 126th pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select...
A.J. Klein ILB Iowa State
6'2" 244 lbs. 4.71/40


I can’t take this guy out of our mocks, he might be the best option at SILB for us in the whole draft.

AJ Klein might be the perfect fit for stopping the read option and pistol offense. He's smart, athletic, fast and most importantly diagnosis and reacts to plays well.

Another added bonus is he grew up in Kimberly, Wisconsin. But the fact he offers a way to stop the mobile QB is what makes him such an attractive prospect at this spot.

With the 134th pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select...
Braden Hansen C/G BYU
6’6” 310 lbs. 5.10/40


One of those guys who has played well, quietly. Undervalued, and that makes him attractive to TT.

Takes over EDS’ old role for us.

With the 164th pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select...
Denard Robinson WR/RS Michigan
5’10” 196 lbs. 4.55/40


An electric playmaker who does wonders when he gets the ball in his hand. The only problem is what position does he play? Can we convert him to WR? RB? Return Specialist? I don’t have an answer to this, but I do think there are certain players who are so fast and athletic they can play several positions in the NFL. To me, Robinson is that player. In Round 5, he is worth taking a flier. He just might be the steal of the whole draft.

With the 182nd pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select...
Knile Davis RB Arkansas
6’1” 226 lbs. 4.52/40


Unbelievable talent who has played very well when healthy, but has struggled staying healthy. Still, considering how late it is in the draft, he’s worth a look. If it doesn’t work out, what have we really lost? If it does, he’s a steal.

I will say this, if he can stay healthy, he will undoubtedly become our starter.

With the 210th pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select...
Tonio Celetto NT Humboldt State
6’3” 320 lbs.


Division III talent who is technically sound and excels at eating blockers and moving piles, but did not play against elite talent. Still, given his strength, speed and athleticism, I would love to see Mike Trgovac develop him.

Probably a PS candidate, and probably will have to do that for a few years, but after that, look out!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! This mock Rocks! Ball and Davis at RB but ya say Davis could become the starter confusing to me. Drafting Ball that high he should be the #1 back. Like your players! Don't know the center ya chose? You always throw that NT in the 7th lol. Really should address our 3-4 DE spot other than that this Mock Rocks!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roscoe wrote:
Wow! This mock Rocks! Ball and Davis at RB but ya say Davis could become the starter confusing to me. Drafting Ball that high he should be the #1 back. Like your players! Don't know the center ya chose? You always throw. That NT in the 7th lol. Really should address our 3-4 DE spot other than that this Mock Rocks!


~IF - and this is a big IF - Davis can stay healthy he's better than Ball and really any other RB we have. Problem is most NFL teams have minimal faith in his ability to stay healthy. Again, in Round 6, it's worth a shot, and if not, Ball is certainly no slouch.
~I don't see RDE as a need, between Neal, Worthy and Daniels, I think we are fine.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I love the weapons here for Rodgers -Allen,Ball,Davis,Robinson. Surprise no tightend to replace Crabtree but its ok we have Finley. My only thing is we really need to address our defense after what happened against the 49ers losing Walden and maybe Jones soon we could use some OLB depth and ya my own opinion we could use another DE. Worthy may not be ready next season till after its half way over. Like that ya addressed the safety spot. Really we're not bad at ILB Hawk,Francois,Manning,Bishop,Smith,Lattimore stronger there than we are the outside with Matthews,Perry,Moses but I guess Francois could play outside and maybe Lattimore. Like the offensive picks. But our defense needs some more talent just as bad. If TT would actually do something in Free Agency it sure would help. You can't address all the teams needs in one draft that's for sure. Good Mock.
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Hinkle wrote:
Ok I love the weapons here for Rodgers -Allen,Ball,Davis,Robinson. Surprise no tightend to replace Crabtree but its ok we have Finley. My only thing is we really need to address our defense after what happened against the 49ers losing Walden and maybe Jones soon we could use some OLB depth and ya my own opinion we could use another DE. Worthy may not be ready next season till after its half way over. Like that ya addressed the safety spot. Really we're not bad at ILB Hawk,Francois,Manning,Bishop,Smith,Lattimore stronger there than we are the outside with Matthews,Perry,Moses but I guess Francois could play outside and maybe Lattimore. Like the offensive picks. But our defense needs some more talent just as bad. If TT would actually do something in Free Agency it sure would help. You can't address all the teams needs in one draft that's for sure. Good Mock.


~Well, first of all, thanks for the compliments.
~I agree we need to upgrade Jones and Walden, but they are already on the roster, their names are Bishop and Perry. Let's not forget Jones was our 3rd string ILB we have more than capable backups at all four LB spots - especially with me giving us AJ Klein - I just do not see it as a need.
~I am more than comfortable with Mike Neal at RDE, and actually rather like our RDE rotation once Worthy comes back.
~BTW, you are forgetting Frank Zombo as the other OLB
~I just cannot justify wasting a DP on an exclusively blocking TE when you can sign a UFA. I do think Taylor, Williams and possibly Quarless' times are all up in GB, so there should be roster room.
~We can always address TE next year if Finley does leave.
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As far as I'm concerned Zombo is done as a Packer! He wasn't tendered and I don't think Packers have interest in bringing him back. Perry and Bishop are starters they are not the replacements for Jones and Walden lol. We are short handed on the outside LB trust me. Lattimore was moved to the inside he is rather small for the outside same with Manning he is small. Francois played ILB for us one year when Hawk was hurt. He's more ILB than OLB. If Zombo stays then ya we could have 4 OLB but the word is he is done. We shall see.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think Klein could play OLB in our 3-4?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hinkle wrote:
Think Klein could play OLB in our 3-4?


no.
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Hinkle wrote:
Think Klein could play OLB in our 3-4?


no.




That's what I thought. Then we need to address depth at OLB through draft or free agency. Especially if Perry continues to get banged up and Matthews hamstring problems.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An overal solid mock but it needed at least a TE or OLB. Zombo should be gone, williams hasn't been what fans expected although i guess he can only inprove, and taylor is pretty much a st guy.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done sir!

Allen is a STUD. I was asked to do a speed read on him after the combine and watched the Stanford game to do so. I have no clue if you guys are able to find that game, but WOW! Not fast, but one hell of a football player. Just about won that game by himself.

LOVE the Ball idea in round2. Gets ya what is there EVERY time he has the ball in his hands. Can't ask for a better fit in terms of natural running style either. I don't think he will be a star like a few others I have wanted in the fit over the past few years. But I do feel he will be a real solid day1 starter.

I don't love the Wilcox idea. But if the value is right I would not fight them on it. Better prospect than Jennings IMO.

This is Klein's home all day long. Much better athlete than I felt he would be also. I don't see that on D, but makes me think ya might have an "ace" level teams player at the very least. Damn kid is always around the ball though. Would not shock me if he seen the field on D sooner rather than later.

I could not use a pick on Hansen.

Would love to see what "this" staff could do with Robinson. There is alot of Cobb in Robinson IMO. Damn kid is special with the ball in his hands. Ya just need to find a way to get it there.

Much to like/dislike with Davis. Can't teach that god given size/speed combo though. Worth a look if on the cheap. I would not want the future of my team resting in his hands though. Lord knows he would probably fumble that also........... Laughing

IMO, you can get Celetto after the draft just about every year. I'll pass!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hadn't realized both Jones and Nelson were FAs next year.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hinkle wrote:
As far as I'm concerned Zombo is done as a Packer! He wasn't tendered and I don't think Packers have interest in bringing him back. Perry and Bishop are starters they are not the replacements for Jones and Walden lol. We are short handed on the outside LB trust me. Lattimore was moved to the inside he is rather small for the outside same with Manning he is small. Francois played ILB for us one year when Hawk was hurt. He's more ILB than OLB. If Zombo stays then ya we could have 4 OLB but the word is he is done. We shall see.


~You can't say Zombo is done as a Packer. If the draft were to play out like this, they would bring him back because he knows the system and he's cheap. If something happened to CM3 - god forbid - Zombo could step in and be somewhat productive.
~I realize Perry and Bishop are the starters, I was being ironic. You were citing the SF game as reasons why we needed to upgrade our D, specifically the play of Jones and Walden. I was merely pointing out we already have the upgrades on our team.
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vang_evo9 wrote:
An overal solid mock but it needed at least a TE or OLB. Zombo should be gone, williams hasn't been what fans expected although i guess he can only inprove, and taylor is pretty much a st guy.


Finley is going to get one more year and he might catch on. There is no guarantee Zombo is going to be gone, and if the draft played out like this, he and Moses would be fine backups to CM3 and Perry.
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daintrain28 wrote:
~You can't say Zombo is done as a Packer. If the draft were to play out like this, they would bring him back because he knows the system and he's cheap. If something happened to CM3 - god forbid - Zombo could step in and be somewhat productive.


But can you count on him to remain healthy? The Packers right now only have 3 OLB under contract in Matthews, Nick Perry, and Dezman Moses. Odds are high that they'll take at least one on draft day, and then probably bring in another one as an UDFA. So...unless he's still on the open market and Clay is out for an extended period during the regular season, I think it's highly unlikely that Zombo is back. He's struggled to stay healthy the last couple of years, so why would the Packers want to replace a hypothetically injured Clay Matthews with someone whose oft-injured?
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