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dude calm down, an upgrade for Dent at ILB makes no sense Dent is good enough for us considering nolan runs primarily nickel sets so there is no need for ILB hence why we let Lofton walk.... Abe was getting old yeah it sucked to see him go, and he might even come back but we need to build through the draft, and need youth at DE.... Beirmann is a best as a rotational guy. We let Dunta go because his play didnt justify his massive contract. We are thin @ CB yes, and more than likely we will take a CB early, which is good because Samuel isn't getting younger and McClain is our Slot guy. I want a tall, physical corner out there with opposite Asante. DE is our #1 need so we might even double-dip in the draft which would be great. OLB will be addressed as well we are fine calm down
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none of pass rushers at 30 are going to produce 10 sacks and brings Abe presence

of course the rookie rb wouldnt be as polished as a veteran as SJAX but we dont need him to be could have went with a rb by committee approach and used Quizz,Snelling and rookie rb to split the load
we are a pass first offense. We could have spent a 2nd or 3rd round pick on rookie rb and groomed him as future starter


you want the best offense in league but our offense was pretty potent last season and got outscored by Collin K at home in NFC championship game. so was the reason we lost NFC champ game on offense or defense ?



walker is replaceable just like Falcons thought Lofton was replaceable with Dent..how did that turn out...we went from a top 10 run defense to be a bottom ranked run defense..Lofton was a huge factor in that


How do you know no DE will produce the kind of pressure Abe did? That kind of guys against popular thought woth this draft.

Yes, we're a pass first offense. So why not have a guy that can run, block and catch? That way the defense wont be keyed in on what we're doing.

Seeing as how we scored 0 points in the 2nd half, im gonna go with offense.

We werent a top run d last year, average at best ranking 15th in ypc. BTW NO ranked dead last in ypc this year, Lofton really seemed to help them.



I think you are being very hypocritical in your reasoning. Hear me out. You are saying a rookie rb cant offer what Steven Jackson offers and now your on one end saying rookie defensive end is going to offer 10 sacks ? cmon man. How many defensive ends that have been drafted 20 and below have got 10 sacks in a season?

Not many .You will maybe be able to find 2 or 3..guy like Cliff Avril


so you blame our offense for the loss against the 49ers? the defense not being able to put away a team down 17-0 on road and allow Vernon Davis to run through secondary and Gore to gash them inside but it was on the offense that loss that put up 28 points? Yes Ryan turnovers hurt momentum and he had the ball in his hands to win the game and did not find a way but when a defense at home allows 30 points to a soph QB with limited starts..yeah thats no bueno




Curtis Lofton still played very well last season even though he was on a horrible defense. If you check PFF numbers he did pretty well
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dude calm down, an upgrade for Dent at ILB makes no sense Dent is good enough for us considering nolan runs primarily nickel sets so there is no need for ILB hence why we let Lofton walk.... Abe was getting old yeah it sucked to see him go, and he might even come back but we need to build through the draft, and need youth at DE.... Beirmann is a best as a rotational guy. We let Dunta go because his play didnt justify his massive contract. We are thin @ CB yes, and more than likely we will take a CB early, which is good because Samuel isn't getting younger and McClain is our Slot guy. I want a tall, physical corner out there with opposite Asante. DE is our #1 need so we might even double-dip in the draft which would be great. OLB will be addressed as well we are fine calm down


None of our LBS showed they were good in pass coverage..Nicholas and Spoon and Dent were all exposed in pass coverage in playoffs vs Zack Miller and Vernon Davis

we hurt our run defense by letting Lofton walk. he was a good player
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dude calm down, an upgrade for Dent at ILB makes no sense Dent is good enough for us considering nolan runs primarily nickel sets so there is no need for ILB hence why we let Lofton walk.... Abe was getting old yeah it sucked to see him go, and he might even come back but we need to build through the draft, and need youth at DE.... Beirmann is a best as a rotational guy. We let Dunta go because his play didnt justify his massive contract. We are thin @ CB yes, and more than likely we will take a CB early, which is good because Samuel isn't getting younger and McClain is our Slot guy. I want a tall, physical corner out there with opposite Asante. DE is our #1 need so we might even double-dip in the draft which would be great. OLB will be addressed as well we are fine calm down


None of our LBS showed they were good in pass coverage..Nicholas and Spoon and Dent were all exposed in pass coverage in playoffs vs Zack Miller and Vernon Davis

we hurt our run defense by letting Lofton walk. he was a good player


lofton was horrible in coverage man he was only good at stopping the run, nolan mainly runs nickle which means only 2 LBers on the field so there was no need for lofton, we can draft a speedy OLB for converage to compliment spoon
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SpoonFed56 wrote:
dude calm down, an upgrade for Dent at ILB makes no sense Dent is good enough for us considering nolan runs primarily nickel sets so there is no need for ILB hence why we let Lofton walk.... Abe was getting old yeah it sucked to see him go, and he might even come back but we need to build through the draft, and need youth at DE.... Beirmann is a best as a rotational guy. We let Dunta go because his play didnt justify his massive contract. We are thin @ CB yes, and more than likely we will take a CB early, which is good because Samuel isn't getting younger and McClain is our Slot guy. I want a tall, physical corner out there with opposite Asante. DE is our #1 need so we might even double-dip in the draft which would be great. OLB will be addressed as well we are fine calm down


None of our LBS showed they were good in pass coverage..Nicholas and Spoon and Dent were all exposed in pass coverage in playoffs vs Zack Miller and Vernon Davis

we hurt our run defense by letting Lofton walk. he was a good player


Our base defense is the nickle. Lofton would be getting the same amount of snaps as Dent if he was back. Lofton is a 2 down LB, so he was more than expendable.

Spoon can cover TEs well. We have seen him do it against Graham from New Orleans. It was the scheme that Nolan was running that hurt us against the TEs in the playoffs. Spoon and Nicholas had to read the read option before dropping back in coverage. It was more of a zone that we were running, and the TEs were getting into space between the LBs and Safties. It was just as much Moore's and DeCoud's fault as it was Spoon and Nicholas.
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dude calm down, an upgrade for Dent at ILB makes no sense Dent is good enough for us considering nolan runs primarily nickel sets so there is no need for ILB hence why we let Lofton walk.... Abe was getting old yeah it sucked to see him go, and he might even come back but we need to build through the draft, and need youth at DE.... Beirmann is a best as a rotational guy. We let Dunta go because his play didnt justify his massive contract. We are thin @ CB yes, and more than likely we will take a CB early, which is good because Samuel isn't getting younger and McClain is our Slot guy. I want a tall, physical corner out there with opposite Asante. DE is our #1 need so we might even double-dip in the draft which would be great. OLB will be addressed as well we are fine calm down


None of our LBS showed they were good in pass coverage..Nicholas and Spoon and Dent were all exposed in pass coverage in playoffs vs Zack Miller and Vernon Davis

we hurt our run defense by letting Lofton walk. he was a good player


lofton was horrible in coverage man he was only good at stopping the run, nolan mainly runs nickle which means only 2 LBers on the field so there was no need for lofton, we can draft a speedy OLB for converage to compliment spoon


but Lofton was great in run defense. Dent was not and our run defense became a weakness last season as were ranked 21st

we hurt our strength by losing Lofton and we still didnt even improve in pass coverage. Our Lbs were exposed in playoffs even Spoon and Nicholas.

I agree Lofton wasnt great in pass coverage but his run defense Falcons missed last year at times

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000128696/Gore-does-the-dirty-bird-after-TD-run
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Swift924 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
dude calm down, an upgrade for Dent at ILB makes no sense Dent is good enough for us considering nolan runs primarily nickel sets so there is no need for ILB hence why we let Lofton walk.... Abe was getting old yeah it sucked to see him go, and he might even come back but we need to build through the draft, and need youth at DE.... Beirmann is a best as a rotational guy. We let Dunta go because his play didnt justify his massive contract. We are thin @ CB yes, and more than likely we will take a CB early, which is good because Samuel isn't getting younger and McClain is our Slot guy. I want a tall, physical corner out there with opposite Asante. DE is our #1 need so we might even double-dip in the draft which would be great. OLB will be addressed as well we are fine calm down


None of our LBS showed they were good in pass coverage..Nicholas and Spoon and Dent were all exposed in pass coverage in playoffs vs Zack Miller and Vernon Davis

we hurt our run defense by letting Lofton walk. he was a good player


Our base defense is the nickle. Lofton would be getting the same amount of snaps as Dent if he was back. Lofton is a 2 down LB, so he was more than expendable.

Spoon can cover TEs well. We have seen him do it against Graham from New Orleans. It was the scheme that Nolan was running that hurt us against the TEs in the playoffs. Spoon and Nicholas had to read the read option before dropping back in coverage. It was more of a zone that we were running, and the TEs were getting into space between the LBs and Safties. It was just as much Moore's and DeCoud's fault as it was Spoon and Nicholas.


understand our defense was nickle 4-2-5 but we missed Lofton run defense on early downs. He was solid. He would plug the gaps and take on backs.


one of the main reasons why defense lacked a pass rush is cause they were also playing on heels do to early downs team getting chunks in run game where a offense can get a first down by running ball in 3rd down
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I can say this, we draft a LB like Porter or Gooden to go alongside Spoon we will be fine, Dent is good enough for now. Spend the draft pick on a true need instead of wasting it to upgrade our MLB which we don't even use that much.
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SpoonFed56 wrote:
Swift924 wrote:
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dude calm down, an upgrade for Dent at ILB makes no sense Dent is good enough for us considering nolan runs primarily nickel sets so there is no need for ILB hence why we let Lofton walk.... Abe was getting old yeah it sucked to see him go, and he might even come back but we need to build through the draft, and need youth at DE.... Beirmann is a best as a rotational guy. We let Dunta go because his play didnt justify his massive contract. We are thin @ CB yes, and more than likely we will take a CB early, which is good because Samuel isn't getting younger and McClain is our Slot guy. I want a tall, physical corner out there with opposite Asante. DE is our #1 need so we might even double-dip in the draft which would be great. OLB will be addressed as well we are fine calm down


None of our LBS showed they were good in pass coverage..Nicholas and Spoon and Dent were all exposed in pass coverage in playoffs vs Zack Miller and Vernon Davis

we hurt our run defense by letting Lofton walk. he was a good player


lofton was horrible in coverage man he was only good at stopping the run, nolan mainly runs nickle which means only 2 LBers on the field so there was no need for lofton, we can draft a speedy OLB for converage to compliment spoon


but Lofton was great in run defense. Dent was not and our run defense became a weakness last season as were ranked 21st

we hurt our strength by losing Lofton and we still didnt even improve in pass coverage. Our Lbs were exposed in playoffs even Spoon and Nicholas.

I agree Lofton wasnt great in pass coverage but his run defense Falcons missed last year at times

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000128696/Gore-does-the-dirty-bird-after-TD-run


Our base defense is the nickle. Lofton would have been vastly overpaid to be on the field for roughly one third of the defensive snaps.

Have you thought that our deficiencies against the run is because we used a extra defensive back instead of a ILB for two thirds of the snaps? Or did you even see the progression that Dent went through during the season. Yes he was beyond horrible at the beginning of the year, but once he got comfortable, he played well in his limited snaps.
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I can say this, we draft a LB like Porter or Gooden to go alongside Spoon we will be fine, Dent is good enough for now. Spend the draft pick on a true need instead of wasting it to upgrade our MLB which we don't even use that much.


I think Nolan might be interested in Dansby due to him being able to play multiple positions at LB and he was able to shine under Nolan.


Spoon really needs to step up and start making impact plays like FF,sacks and int .
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Swift924 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
Swift924 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
dude calm down, an upgrade for Dent at ILB makes no sense Dent is good enough for us considering nolan runs primarily nickel sets so there is no need for ILB hence why we let Lofton walk.... Abe was getting old yeah it sucked to see him go, and he might even come back but we need to build through the draft, and need youth at DE.... Beirmann is a best as a rotational guy. We let Dunta go because his play didnt justify his massive contract. We are thin @ CB yes, and more than likely we will take a CB early, which is good because Samuel isn't getting younger and McClain is our Slot guy. I want a tall, physical corner out there with opposite Asante. DE is our #1 need so we might even double-dip in the draft which would be great. OLB will be addressed as well we are fine calm down


None of our LBS showed they were good in pass coverage..Nicholas and Spoon and Dent were all exposed in pass coverage in playoffs vs Zack Miller and Vernon Davis

we hurt our run defense by letting Lofton walk. he was a good player


lofton was horrible in coverage man he was only good at stopping the run, nolan mainly runs nickle which means only 2 LBers on the field so there was no need for lofton, we can draft a speedy OLB for converage to compliment spoon


but Lofton was great in run defense. Dent was not and our run defense became a weakness last season as were ranked 21st

we hurt our strength by losing Lofton and we still didnt even improve in pass coverage. Our Lbs were exposed in playoffs even Spoon and Nicholas.

I agree Lofton wasnt great in pass coverage but his run defense Falcons missed last year at times

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000128696/Gore-does-the-dirty-bird-after-TD-run


Our base defense is the nickle. Lofton would have been vastly overpaid to be on the field for roughly one third of the defensive snaps.

Have you thought that our deficiencies against the run is because we used a extra defensive back instead of a ILB for two thirds of the snaps? Or did you even see the progression that Dent went through during the season. Yes he was beyond horrible at the beginning of the year, but once he got comfortable, he played well in his limited snaps.



Dent improved over the season but he was nothing special and even got exposed in playoffs in run and pass. I told you before I understand we are base nickel 4-2-5 that does not take away the FACT that OUR RUN DEFENSE dropped to 21st last season when it was a strength under BVG


This defense really did not improve at all under Nolan and took a step back in run defense. Even BVG was able to lead this Falcons defense to 5th in points allowed 2010. Nolan defense still gave up a ton of yards

the only thing that improved on defense last year was secondary not giving up touchdowns

but run defense- dropped
sacks -dropped
turnovers-dropped
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Swift924 wrote:
devils1854 wrote:
Swift924 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
Swift924 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
dude calm down, an upgrade for Dent at ILB makes no sense Dent is good enough for us considering nolan runs primarily nickel sets so there is no need for ILB hence why we let Lofton walk.... Abe was getting old yeah it sucked to see him go, and he might even come back but we need to build through the draft, and need youth at DE.... Beirmann is a best as a rotational guy. We let Dunta go because his play didnt justify his massive contract. We are thin @ CB yes, and more than likely we will take a CB early, which is good because Samuel isn't getting younger and McClain is our Slot guy. I want a tall, physical corner out there with opposite Asante. DE is our #1 need so we might even double-dip in the draft which would be great. OLB will be addressed as well we are fine calm down


None of our LBS showed they were good in pass coverage..Nicholas and Spoon and Dent were all exposed in pass coverage in playoffs vs Zack Miller and Vernon Davis

we hurt our run defense by letting Lofton walk. he was a good player


lofton was horrible in coverage man he was only good at stopping the run, nolan mainly runs nickle which means only 2 LBers on the field so there was no need for lofton, we can draft a speedy OLB for converage to compliment spoon


but Lofton was great in run defense. Dent was not and our run defense became a weakness last season as were ranked 21st

we hurt our strength by losing Lofton and we still didnt even improve in pass coverage. Our Lbs were exposed in playoffs even Spoon and Nicholas.

I agree Lofton wasnt great in pass coverage but his run defense Falcons missed last year at times

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000128696/Gore-does-the-dirty-bird-after-TD-run


Our base defense is the nickle. Lofton would have been vastly overpaid to be on the field for roughly one third of the defensive snaps.

Have you thought that our deficiencies against the run is because we used a extra defensive back instead of a ILB for two thirds of the snaps? Or did you even see the progression that Dent went through during the season. Yes he was beyond horrible at the beginning of the year, but once he got comfortable, he played well in his limited snaps.



Dent improved over the season but he was nothing special and even got exposed in playoffs in run and pass. I told you before I understand we are base nickel 4-2-5 that does not take away the FACT that OUR RUN DEFENSE dropped to 21st last season when it was a strength under BVG


This defense really did not improve at all under Nolan and took a step back in run defense. Even BVG was able to lead this Falcons defense to 5th in points allowed 2010. Nolan defense still gave up a ton of yards

the only thing that improved on defense last year was secondary not giving up touchdowns

but run defense- dropped
sacks -dropped
turnovers-dropped


Except for the fact that we improved to top 5 in all of football in points allowed. Isnt that the stat that actually matters?

-We also improved pass rating against from 14th to 5th
-You act like we drastically decreased in sacks. We went from 33 to 29. Its not like it was that big of a dip.
-We intercepted more passes and forced more fumbles.
-Our 3rd down defense improved by 4%. 4th down defense improved by 8%
-18 less defensive penalties this year for 200 less yards.
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devils1854 wrote:
Swift924 wrote:
devils1854 wrote:
Swift924 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
Swift924 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
dude calm down, an upgrade for Dent at ILB makes no sense Dent is good enough for us considering nolan runs primarily nickel sets so there is no need for ILB hence why we let Lofton walk.... Abe was getting old yeah it sucked to see him go, and he might even come back but we need to build through the draft, and need youth at DE.... Beirmann is a best as a rotational guy. We let Dunta go because his play didnt justify his massive contract. We are thin @ CB yes, and more than likely we will take a CB early, which is good because Samuel isn't getting younger and McClain is our Slot guy. I want a tall, physical corner out there with opposite Asante. DE is our #1 need so we might even double-dip in the draft which would be great. OLB will be addressed as well we are fine calm down


None of our LBS showed they were good in pass coverage..Nicholas and Spoon and Dent were all exposed in pass coverage in playoffs vs Zack Miller and Vernon Davis

we hurt our run defense by letting Lofton walk. he was a good player


lofton was horrible in coverage man he was only good at stopping the run, nolan mainly runs nickle which means only 2 LBers on the field so there was no need for lofton, we can draft a speedy OLB for converage to compliment spoon


but Lofton was great in run defense. Dent was not and our run defense became a weakness last season as were ranked 21st

we hurt our strength by losing Lofton and we still didnt even improve in pass coverage. Our Lbs were exposed in playoffs even Spoon and Nicholas.

I agree Lofton wasnt great in pass coverage but his run defense Falcons missed last year at times

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000128696/Gore-does-the-dirty-bird-after-TD-run


Our base defense is the nickle. Lofton would have been vastly overpaid to be on the field for roughly one third of the defensive snaps.

Have you thought that our deficiencies against the run is because we used a extra defensive back instead of a ILB for two thirds of the snaps? Or did you even see the progression that Dent went through during the season. Yes he was beyond horrible at the beginning of the year, but once he got comfortable, he played well in his limited snaps.



Dent improved over the season but he was nothing special and even got exposed in playoffs in run and pass. I told you before I understand we are base nickel 4-2-5 that does not take away the FACT that OUR RUN DEFENSE dropped to 21st last season when it was a strength under BVG


This defense really did not improve at all under Nolan and took a step back in run defense. Even BVG was able to lead this Falcons defense to 5th in points allowed 2010. Nolan defense still gave up a ton of yards

the only thing that improved on defense last year was secondary not giving up touchdowns

but run defense- dropped
sacks -dropped
turnovers-dropped


Except for the fact that we improved to top 5 in all of football in points allowed. Isnt that the stat that actually matters?

-We also improved pass rating against from 14th to 5th
-You act like we drastically decreased in sacks. We went from 33 to 29. Its not like it was that big of a dip.
-We intercepted more passes and forced more fumbles.



I could say the same thing man you act like we DRASTICALLY improved with ints..what we have 1 more from 2011? and what 2 more FF?


we also dropped in yards allowed from 2011.


defense also was exposed just like BVG in playoffs.


Its been 5 years and we still dont have a defense we can count on in playoffs.. now we released our best pass rusher in Abe, cut our 2nd corner and lost depth on defensive line
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none of pass rushers at 30 are going to produce 10 sacks and brings Abe presence

of course the rookie rb wouldnt be as polished as a veteran as SJAX but we dont need him to be could have went with a rb by committee approach and used Quizz,Snelling and rookie rb to split the load
we are a pass first offense. We could have spent a 2nd or 3rd round pick on rookie rb and groomed him as future starter


you want the best offense in league but our offense was pretty potent last season and got outscored by Collin K at home in NFC championship game. so was the reason we lost NFC champ game on offense or defense ?



walker is replaceable just like Falcons thought Lofton was replaceable with Dent..how did that turn out...we went from a top 10 run defense to be a bottom ranked run defense..Lofton was a huge factor in that


How do you know no DE will produce the kind of pressure Abe did? That kind of guys against popular thought woth this draft.

Yes, we're a pass first offense. So why not have a guy that can run, block and catch? That way the defense wont be keyed in on what we're doing.

Seeing as how we scored 0 points in the 2nd half, im gonna go with offense.

We werent a top run d last year, average at best ranking 15th in ypc. BTW NO ranked dead last in ypc this year, Lofton really seemed to help them.



I think you are being very hypocritical in your reasoning. Hear me out. You are saying a rookie rb cant offer what Steven Jackson offers and now your on one end saying rookie defensive end is going to offer 10 sacks ? cmon man. How many defensive ends that have been drafted 20 and below have got 10 sacks in a season?

Not many .You will maybe be able to find 2 or 3..guy like Cliff Avril


so you blame our offense for the loss against the 49ers? the defense not being able to put away a team down 17-0 on road and allow Vernon Davis to run through secondary and Gore to gash them inside but it was on the offense that loss that put up 28 points? Yes Ryan turnovers hurt momentum and he had the ball in his hands to win the game and did not find a way but when a defense at home allows 30 points to a soph QB with limited starts..yeah thats no bueno




Curtis Lofton still played very well last season even though he was on a horrible defense. If you check PFF numbers he did pretty well


For one, I never said a rookie DE would get 10 sacks, us that he could generate pressure liek JA. And I already covered this, but the draft is very heavy on DL talent. Someone is bound to fall to us. Theres no running back that has the skills Jackson has in this draft, there plenty of pure rushers.

Yes, I blame the offense. They socred points in the 2nd half.

ANd using PFF's #'s automatically disqualify any argument you try to make.
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devils1854 wrote:
Swift924 wrote:
devils1854 wrote:
Swift924 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
Swift924 wrote:
SpoonFed56 wrote:
dude calm down, an upgrade for Dent at ILB makes no sense Dent is good enough for us considering nolan runs primarily nickel sets so there is no need for ILB hence why we let Lofton walk.... Abe was getting old yeah it sucked to see him go, and he might even come back but we need to build through the draft, and need youth at DE.... Beirmann is a best as a rotational guy. We let Dunta go because his play didnt justify his massive contract. We are thin @ CB yes, and more than likely we will take a CB early, which is good because Samuel isn't getting younger and McClain is our Slot guy. I want a tall, physical corner out there with opposite Asante. DE is our #1 need so we might even double-dip in the draft which would be great. OLB will be addressed as well we are fine calm down


None of our LBS showed they were good in pass coverage..Nicholas and Spoon and Dent were all exposed in pass coverage in playoffs vs Zack Miller and Vernon Davis

we hurt our run defense by letting Lofton walk. he was a good player


lofton was horrible in coverage man he was only good at stopping the run, nolan mainly runs nickle which means only 2 LBers on the field so there was no need for lofton, we can draft a speedy OLB for converage to compliment spoon


but Lofton was great in run defense. Dent was not and our run defense became a weakness last season as were ranked 21st

we hurt our strength by losing Lofton and we still didnt even improve in pass coverage. Our Lbs were exposed in playoffs even Spoon and Nicholas.

I agree Lofton wasnt great in pass coverage but his run defense Falcons missed last year at times

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000128696/Gore-does-the-dirty-bird-after-TD-run


Our base defense is the nickle. Lofton would have been vastly overpaid to be on the field for roughly one third of the defensive snaps.

Have you thought that our deficiencies against the run is because we used a extra defensive back instead of a ILB for two thirds of the snaps? Or did you even see the progression that Dent went through during the season. Yes he was beyond horrible at the beginning of the year, but once he got comfortable, he played well in his limited snaps.



Dent improved over the season but he was nothing special and even got exposed in playoffs in run and pass. I told you before I understand we are base nickel 4-2-5 that does not take away the FACT that OUR RUN DEFENSE dropped to 21st last season when it was a strength under BVG


This defense really did not improve at all under Nolan and took a step back in run defense. Even BVG was able to lead this Falcons defense to 5th in points allowed 2010. Nolan defense still gave up a ton of yards

the only thing that improved on defense last year was secondary not giving up touchdowns

but run defense- dropped
sacks -dropped
turnovers-dropped


Except for the fact that we improved to top 5 in all of football in points allowed. Isnt that the stat that actually matters?

-We also improved pass rating against from 14th to 5th
-You act like we drastically decreased in sacks. We went from 33 to 29. Its not like it was that big of a dip.
-We intercepted more passes and forced more fumbles.



I could say the same thing man you act like we DRASTICALLY improved with ints..what we have 1 more from 2011? and what 2 more FF?


we also dropped in yards allowed from 2011.


defense also was exposed just like BVG in playoffs.


Its been 5 years and we still dont have a defense we can count on in playoffs.. now we released our best pass rusher in Abe, cut our 2nd corner and lost depth on defensive line


I was proving my point. You acted like our pass rush got so much worse from 2011, when in fact we went from 33 to 29 sacks. Thats pretty much the same as improving our number of turnovers by 3.

Points given up, better pass defense, better in situational(3rd 4th down), significantly less penalties > Yards allowed
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