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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:43 am    Post subject: NFL Refuse Redskins' Cap Relief Reply with quote

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/49799/nfl-tells-redskins-no-salary-cap-relief

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If you were hoping, as the Washington Redskins were, that they would come out here to the NFL owners meetings and be able to convince the league to give them back some of the $36 million in salary cap room it took from them last year as a penalty for the way they structured some contracts in the uncapped 2010 season, you can stop hoping.... and the league continues to hold firm in its refusal to reduce or eliminate the penalties.

The Redskins had $18 million taken from their salary cap last year and $18 million again this year.


So the Redskins don't get any of their $18m cap back and will carry on the rest of this off-season without it, and without a 1st Round Pick, it makes building a team a little tougher.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justice has been upheld. Hopefully this deters teams in the future from trying to pull the same trick.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RuskieTitan wrote:
Justice has been upheld. Hopefully this deters teams in the future from trying to pull the same trick.


Well its going to be awhile before we get an uncapped year again with the new CBA in place...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RuskieTitan wrote:
Justice has been upheld. Hopefully this deters teams in the future from trying to pull the same trick.


Collusion isn't justice.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm torn on the issue - if the case went to a Judge, the NFL would be destroyed for collusion. Honestly it's not worth the $10m the Cowboys lost but I'm surprised the NFL did it and the NFLPA agreed to it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

plan9misfit wrote:
RuskieTitan wrote:
Justice has been upheld. Hopefully this deters teams in the future from trying to pull the same trick.


Collusion isn't justice.


The more you know: NFL and other professional sports are legal monopolies. Either deal with it or find a new sport. Crying won't change it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

plan9misfit wrote:
RuskieTitan wrote:
Justice has been upheld. Hopefully this deters teams in the future from trying to pull the same trick.


Collusion isn't justice.


It is not just for big market teams to take advantage and sign contracts specifically tailored to avoid a future salary cap. In this case, the Red Skins were the ones trying to get an unfair advantage.
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Grachuus wrote:
plan9misfit wrote:
RuskieTitan wrote:
Justice has been upheld. Hopefully this deters teams in the future from trying to pull the same trick.


Collusion isn't justice.


The more you know: NFL and other professional sports are legal monopolies. Either deal with it or find a new sport. Crying won't change it.


Not crying. And they are not "legal monopolies" because a CBA is in place. However, once a CBA expires, having a "gentleman's agreement" to not do business a certain way is a violation of antiturst laws, i.e., collusion. Part of the settlement the NFL reached with the NFLPA was that the Union had to drop the antitrust suit and not be able to sue the league for collusion again.
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nextsuperstar wrote:
plan9misfit wrote:
RuskieTitan wrote:
Justice has been upheld. Hopefully this deters teams in the future from trying to pull the same trick.


Collusion isn't justice.


It is not just for big market teams to take advantage and sign contracts specifically tailored to avoid a future salary cap. In this case, the Red Skins were the ones trying to get an unfair advantage.


And Dallas tried the same thing. No one is disputing that. The issue is that it's a violation of antitrust laws for the teams to agree to behave a certain way upon the expiration of a CBA. Granted, in my opinion, a salary cap is disastrous for the sport because it waters down the league.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*Sigh* You took away our cap space last year, so we win the NFC East. You take away our cap space THIS year... Well let's just hope good things come in threes. Oh wait. That doesn't make any sense. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grachuus wrote:
plan9misfit wrote:
RuskieTitan wrote:
Justice has been upheld. Hopefully this deters teams in the future from trying to pull the same trick.


Collusion isn't justice.


The more you know: NFL and other professional sports are legal monopolies. Either deal with it or find a new sport. Crying won't change it.


Plan is probably the wrong guy to get into an argument about legalities with - just be warned
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaddHatter wrote:
Grachuus wrote:
plan9misfit wrote:
RuskieTitan wrote:
Justice has been upheld. Hopefully this deters teams in the future from trying to pull the same trick.


Collusion isn't justice.


The more you know: NFL and other professional sports are legal monopolies. Either deal with it or find a new sport. Crying won't change it.


Plan is probably the wrong guy to get into an argument about legalities with - just be warned

I just can't believe that after thousands of posts on this issue, that anyone is still interested in debating it. Personally, i couldn't care less. What's done is done. Move on.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plan9misfit wrote:
Grachuus wrote:
plan9misfit wrote:
RuskieTitan wrote:
Justice has been upheld. Hopefully this deters teams in the future from trying to pull the same trick.


Collusion isn't justice.


The more you know: NFL and other professional sports are legal monopolies. Either deal with it or find a new sport. Crying won't change it.


Not crying. And they are not "legal monopolies" because a CBA is in place. However, once a CBA expires, having a "gentleman's agreement" to not do business a certain way is a violation of antiturst laws, i.e., collusion. Part of the settlement the NFL reached with the NFLPA was that the Union had to drop the antitrust suit and not be able to sue the league for collusion again.


That's actually not true. Professional sports are 100% specifically legal monopolies. They are granted exemptions by Congress specifically.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grachuus wrote:
plan9misfit wrote:
Grachuus wrote:
plan9misfit wrote:
RuskieTitan wrote:
Justice has been upheld. Hopefully this deters teams in the future from trying to pull the same trick.


Collusion isn't justice.


The more you know: NFL and other professional sports are legal monopolies. Either deal with it or find a new sport. Crying won't change it.


Not crying. And they are not "legal monopolies" because a CBA is in place. However, once a CBA expires, having a "gentleman's agreement" to not do business a certain way is a violation of antiturst laws, i.e., collusion. Part of the settlement the NFL reached with the NFLPA was that the Union had to drop the antitrust suit and not be able to sue the league for collusion again.


That's actually not true. Professional sports are 100% specifically legal monopolies. They are granted exemptions by Congress specifically.



Isnt that specifically just for tv broadcasting or something of that nature
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