43 vs 34 defense (pre draft)

[unko_B]

It's amazing how so many people seem to fabricate so much ish in their head that they miss the facts in front of them. the raiders have signed the no. 4 & 7 (Burnett & Maiava) rated 43 OLBs from 2012 along with an undersized LB who played almost exclusively in a tampa 2 (43) defense and you people still think the raiders are switching to a 34 defense? More so, the signing of Hunter, who finally excelled by moving to DE under DA in Denver is coming in to play DE, although his versatility is an added plus. But come on now, give me a break the writing is all over the wall. So far, by these signings & even last years draft picks RM (IMO) is choosing guys who are versatile; bergstrum = T/G, Burris DE (@ SDSU)/OLB, Bililkudi DE (@ GS)/DT.

You guys are getting to caught up with whether it'll be a 43 or 34 way to much. With NFL offenses passing so much, those 'base' defenses rarely ever stay on the field on 2nd & 3rd down. From my own recollection, I remember the Raiders running far more 42 fronts with wheeler & Burris, while bringing in Hanson as well. The raiders do not have the collective talent to be exclusive to one defense or the other, in fact IMO i believe RM & DA have the understanding that if they put high character, hard working dedicated football players on the field & gear both Off & Def towards the rosters strength all will work itself out.

DA has said it time and time before he wants to run plays to the current players strengths. He's said numerous times that the run game will have elements of both PBS & ZBS. Although he says it mostly on offense, cant the same thought process be applied to defense and special teams for that matter? My guess is the raiders stick with the label of a 43 defense, and continue to platoon players in on different down and distances (like most NFL teams already do). With a surplus of middle talent guys the raiders, right now, best suited to platoon players.

My point is this, it's futile to argue if one defense is better suited than the other. Instead of relying on your knowledge, or lack thereof, look at the facts. It'll show you that the Raiders are getting ready to play any and all defenses that best suit their players which includes but not limited to 34 and 43 fronts.

Im sure DA & RM want to win all costs & refuse to limit themselves with such titles of PBS vs ZBS & 43 vs 34.
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[macklemore]

ya know this is the only thread that mentions a 3-4 on the first page..
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[OakRaiders3828]

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[m52876]

The 4-3 vs 3-4 debate has been a hallmark of this forum since the site launched. I think it is second only to the series of annual "we must trade down" threads.

Every defensive signing along the front seven perpetuates the debate. If the player has a prototypical 3-4 skill set, it surely means we are switching to a 3-4. If the player has a prototypical 4-3 skill set, we are destined to remain a 4-3 team.

The ever-elusive gap clogging NT remains the sliver bullet in either alignment.

[Big Rob]

I think we stay predominantly 4-3, with a few 3-4 looks...

[DirtyHarry]

[raiderfan19]

The way I see it our defensive fronts would be...
3-4
Houston-Sims-Kelly
Hunter-Roach-McClain? If no to rolando Burnett,Maiva,Burris TC battle Dion Jordan at 3 overall.

4-3
Houston-Kelly-Sims-Ziggy?
Burnett-Roach-Burris
*Maiva would play some nickel, teams, and backup to all 3 spots

I personally would roll with the 4-3 and get creative with backers blitzing from different gaps, stunts with the lineman, stand Ziggy or move him around, and even mix in some Houston at 3 technique and Hunter at LE taking Sims off the field. either way we have flexibility with our defensive fronts, just really lack the explosive guy off the edge.

[DOCLEW 28]

Even Burnett said in his interview that it looks like 4-3 because that whas the personnel looks like.
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[Rolni]

It doesn't really matter.

The players, their talent, the gap responsibilities are what matters...

Last year when Houston was standing up the D was the same, however you could say it was a 3-4 look, since 3 guy was in 3point stance and the rest was standing up...it was the same 4man front with a little tweak.

Our current personel suggest base 4-3 to me with the possibility to mix it up with all these versatile guys...
And that's the key to me. You wanna be unpredictable, creative while disciplined and focused.
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[mhuff24]

Do you guys think this is why McClain is still on the roster? I've been trying to wrap my head around why he's still around and hasn't been cut yet. Am I missing something or what? Do you guys think he'll be around next season?

[JTagg7754]

We'll run a hybrid. Rolni is ultimately right though.
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