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larrywhigham25


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:41 pm    Post subject: So where do we stand in terms of the salary cap? Reply with quote

Pats have obviously made some moves, cut Lloyd. Still some needs out there. We have a shortage of draft picks (1,2,3, and two 7's). The Sanders rumors are obviously still out there, leaving the third rounder in peril (fwiw, I hope we do get our hands on him). Plus it is never good to go into the draft with a glaring need.

I am definitely not smart enough to figure out the salary cap but if anyone had any insight, I would love to hear about it.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

about 15m before rooks. Cut fells and a few others and we have tad more.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We started with around $25M after Brady restructure.

Arrington: $2.625M Cap Hit
Talib: $5.0M Cap Hit
Wilson: ~$1.0M Estimated Cap Hit based on his deal last year
Washington: $1.5M Cap Hit
Amendola: ~$2.75M Cap Hit


Savings: ~$2.5M from Cutting Lloyd

So about $12M to $15M left to spend
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

patsfan06 wrote:
We started with around $25M after Brady restructure.

Arrington: $2.625M Cap Hit
Talib: $5.0M Cap Hit
Wilson: ~$1.0M Estimated Cap Hit based on his deal last year
Washington: $1.5M Cap Hit
Amendola: ~$2.75M Cap Hit


Savings: ~$2.5M from Cutting Lloyd

So about $12M to $15M left to spend


Good stuff, thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mentioned it in the Arrington thread, but http://www.patscap.com is a pretty accurate snapshot of where the team stands.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-england-patriots/cap-hit/
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read on Bleacher Report they have 15.6 left earlier today. But I more go there for wrestling, I'm not sure about how reliable everything else is.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jmacz008 wrote:
I read on Bleacher Report they have 15.6 left earlier today. But I more go there for wrestling, I'm not sure about how reliable everything else is.


That's pretty accurate, surprisingly.

Just remember we need about 4 mil of that for draft picks, so we really only have 10-12 to play with in FA
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info and insight to all. Greg Bedard has some good info and figures on boston.com today

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/2013/03/patriots_cap_sp.html
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jmacz008 wrote:
I read on Bleacher Report they have 15.6 left earlier today. But I more go there for wrestling, I'm not sure about how reliable everything else is.


Looks like a good, solid numbers.

So, take out...what is it? $3 to $4 mill for rookies...then we're down to $11 - 12 mill.

I think putting around $6 or 7 mill toward Vollmer would be decent.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VTPatsFan wrote:
Jmacz008 wrote:
I read on Bleacher Report they have 15.6 left earlier today. But I more go there for wrestling, I'm not sure about how reliable everything else is.


Looks like a good, solid numbers.

So, take out...what is it? $3 to $4 mill for rookies...then we're down to $11 - 12 mill.

I think putting around $6 or 7 mill toward Vollmer would be decent.

I've posted this more than once, but I'll say it again - the Patriots' rookie pool should be around $2.5 million, but the actual cap charge will be lower because the first and second round picks will all push a minimum guy out of the top 51, which will be around a million in savings. So I'd be conservative and expect the Pats to spend around $1.7 to $1.8 million on rookie cap charges this season.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well then, $8 mill would be a totally acceptable salary for one of, if not the, top RTs in the game.

Kraft, you were so intent on keeping Welker, go give some love to the boys in the trenches, the one's who don't throw fits and hold out.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richter wrote:
VTPatsFan wrote:
Jmacz008 wrote:
I read on Bleacher Report they have 15.6 left earlier today. But I more go there for wrestling, I'm not sure about how reliable everything else is.


Looks like a good, solid numbers.

So, take out...what is it? $3 to $4 mill for rookies...then we're down to $11 - 12 mill.

I think putting around $6 or 7 mill toward Vollmer would be decent.

I've posted this more than once, but I'll say it again - the Patriots' rookie pool should be around $2.5 million, but the actual cap charge will be lower because the first and second round picks will all push a minimum guy out of the top 51, which will be around a million in savings. So I'd be conservative and expect the Pats to spend around $1.7 to $1.8 million on rookie cap charges this season.


That seems about right. The Globe article today seemed allocate way too much money toward rookies and incentives. This is not like past years where the Patriots have 4 picks in the first two rounds.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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With firm cap numbers rolling in, my belief is the Patriots have $11M in cap space now, which has slight room for error but not much.


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I threw out the $9M in cap space yesterday with estimates that had greater room for error. I feel pretty good about the $11M estimate now.


http://twitter.com/jeffphowe/statuses/314069015456796675
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billy Spikes wrote:
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With firm cap numbers rolling in, my belief is the Patriots have $11M in cap space now, which has slight room for error but not much.


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I threw out the $9M in cap space yesterday with estimates that had greater room for error. I feel pretty good about the $11M estimate now.


http://twitter.com/jeffphowe/statuses/314069015456796675

Is he forgetting about the rollover? Because I don't see how his math works.
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