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The Future of Joe Webb?
Outright release
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Attempt to trade
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Move to WR or other position
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:27 pm    Post subject: What to do with the Webb-slinger? Reply with quote

With the addition of Matt Cassel as our back-up QB, what do you think the Vikings should do with Joe Webb? Personally, I'd like to move him to WR. What would it hurt? If he doesn't pan out, then he could always be released/traded later. He has such a burst, and physical attributes like his are hard to come by.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If any team is looking to run the option and need a QB to do it, they could look our way. The teams I'd look towards is New England, Philadelphia, Cleveland, or Washington (as a backup option player to Griffin). Those are the teams I'd look to trade to.

But more likely than not, he'll just be released.

In which case, would save us some money...right?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attempting to trade him is the best thing for the team, but I don't think we're likely to get anything for him. Might as well release him unless they plan on trying to make him a WR or something. He might be able to be a return specialist.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He likely has minimal trade value, maybe a future 7th rd pick at best. At this point, you let him compete with MBT as the third QB. the winner gets a roster spot, and the loser is released.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wcblack34 wrote:
Attempting to trade him is the best thing for the team, but I don't think we're likely to get anything for him. Might as well release him unless they plan on trying to make him a WR or something. He might be able to be a return specialist.


Not too many 6'4 return specialists out there though. He's too tall for the position. Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Webb + 7th rd for a 5th.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

try trading him for anything you can get. if you can't trade him, keep him through training camp as the #3 guy in case someone gets hurt, and cut him in the last round of cuts before the season starts.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vikingsrule wrote:
He likely has minimal trade value, maybe a future 7th rd pick at best. At this point, you let him compete with MBT as the third QB. the winner gets a roster spot, and the loser is released.


I agree with some of this ^, but have concerns about releasing MBLT before he has a chance to prove himself capable as a 3rd QB. The key distinction is two years difference in rookie contract expiration....

I assume Webb or MBLT may become QB2 in MN if Cassell leaves after 1 or 2 years. But Webb demonstrated vs. GB he can't handle that role (well). MBLT hasn't had a chance to play.

Keeping MBLT over Webb means paying 'QB3' less for a few more years, which saves cap space for upgrades to other key positions.

The Vikings would pay less because Webb's rookie contract ends in 2013 (14?), whereas MBLT's rookie contract runs for a year or two beyond that. So Webb would be more expensive than MBLT in a year or two. Since QB3 rarely plays in a meaningful game, the key difference to judge their value to the team is 'cap space saved' not 'performance'.

Back to trading Webb; a future 7th might be had if the Vikings keep Webb on the roster until pre-season games results in an injury to another teams starter, or backup QBs. I believe Webb will be in camp as a QB tied for 3rd on the depth chart. He will probably not be moved before or during the 2013 draft.

Rather than release Webb before or after the draft, I suggest he be used as a Wingback (WB) until other teams look for a backup QB during pre-season to replace an injured QB.

As a Wingback, Webb could carry the ball on a handoff, split out as a SE or WR, catch swing passes in the flats like a TE or scat RB, or take an occasional handoff to throw downfield. He obviously has the athleticism to succeed in a wingback role. I'm not sure if he blocks well, fair, or poorly. Shorter passes might be easier for him to catch. But, how useful would that role (WB) be to the Vikings?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to see them package Webb and Toby for a 4th round pick from the 49ers, highly unlikely I know but thats what I would like to see happen. Toby is gone after this year and he is not a change of pace back that this team needs, he is a guy that needs to carry the ball and pound away on the defense.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SteelKing728 wrote:
wcblack34 wrote:
Attempting to trade him is the best thing for the team, but I don't think we're likely to get anything for him. Might as well release him unless they plan on trying to make him a WR or something. He might be able to be a return specialist.


Not too many 6'4 return specialists out there though. He's too tall for the position. Confused


He returned a few kickoffs in his rookie season (pre-season maybe), and didn't look too bad. I agree that he is likely too tall to be an effective punt returner though.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Release him.

People are delusional if they think anyone would trade anything for Joe Webb. No one wants a quarterback who simply can't throw. Webb is a phenomenal athlete, but just doesn't have a position at the NFL level.

Webb proved that he isn't a #2 QB, or a starter, so there is no point in keeping him on the roster as a #3, when that spot can be given to someone with potential. If the Vikings wants competition for the #3/ developmental quarterback, they would be best suited to draft and quarterback in the 4th to 6th round, and let them compete with MBT.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SemperFeist wrote:
No one wants a quarterback who simply can't throw.


The Bills wanted TJack Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Klomp wrote:
SemperFeist wrote:
No one wants a quarterback who simply can't throw.


The Bills wanted TJack Laughing


The Jets even traded for Tim Tebow...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wcblack34 wrote:
Klomp wrote:
SemperFeist wrote:
No one wants a quarterback who simply can't throw.


The Bills wanted TJack Laughing


The Jets even traded for Tim Tebow...

Jackson takes way too much heat from Vikings' fans. There's no doubt that he was a horrible starter, but he has had success when coming off of the bench. Just like Cassel, he's a below average starter, but I would put him in the upper tier of backup quarterbacks.

And Tebow at least put on the illusion that he could throw when he beat Pittsburgh in the playoffs, with his arm.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for fun:

Tebow - 47.9 Completion Percentage
Webb - 57.9 Completion Percentage

Neither of them are worth a darn as a QB.
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