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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4 million per for Arrington.
5 million per offered to Welker.

There we have the problem. If anyone wonders why Welker was so turned off, it's because of things like this. Arrington needs to improve his play to justify this deal.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canadian_Patriot wrote:
4 million per for Arrington.
5 million per offered to Welker.

There we have the problem. If anyone wonders why Welker was so turned off, it's because of things like this. Arrington needs to improve his play to justify this deal.


Who cares about Welker's feelings though? The Pats have shown that it wasn't a matter of money, it was a matter of them not particularly valuing his skillset (or how that skillset would age over the next few years) going forward.

I don't see it as a problem at all. They offered Welker (reportedly) $18M last year and he said no. He (or his agent) really read the market poorly.

Also, there's a big difference between $12M guaranteed over 2 years (what Welker got) and Arrington's $8M guaranteed over the next 4. People are seeing the $4M AAV and IMO blowing that number out of proportion. If he earns that $4M, it's because he has improved (as you said he needs to). If he doesn't improve, he's gone and his final AAV will end up being lower (assuming the contract escalates like most of these deals do).
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcmurtry86 wrote:
If they're still in this position in July, we can worry. As of now, I have to assume they have a plan (though I have a sinking feeling it might be to move McCourty back to CB).


Sad

I like McCourty at corner more than most but I honestly feel he could be a top 5 cover safety in the NFL....


EDIT: Didn't realize Arrington's cap hit was 2 mil base. Feel a lot better now about that contract.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canadian_Patriot wrote:
4 million per for Arrington.
5 million per offered to Welker.

There we have the problem. If anyone wonders why Welker was so turned off, it's because of things like this. Arrington needs to improve his play to justify this deal.


The way this contract is structured, Arrington will likely be cut in a couple of years.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kyle Arrington received a $6.5 million signing bonus. Should have $2.625 million cap number this year.


http://twitter.com/GregABedard/statuses/313102666748289025
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kyle Arrington received a $6.5 million signing bonus. Should have $2.625 million cap number this year.


http://twitter.com/GregABedard/statuses/313102666748289025


About right. I thought he'd get a $2.5M cap hit so this doesn't seem to be too much of an overpay.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canadian_Patriot wrote:
4 million per for Arrington.
5 million per offered to Welker.

There we have the problem. If anyone wonders why Welker was so turned off, it's because of things like this. Arrington needs to improve his play to justify this deal.


CP you know I love ya, but who cares? Did WW really expect the Patriots to treat him any differently than anybody else? For as disloyal as they're being towards Welker, they're being loyal to every other guy still on the roster who wants to win next season.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure we'll see the full details soon, but I'm getting the feeling this is a three year deal with either a restructuring or release before the fourth year.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NextBigThing wrote:
Canadian_Patriot wrote:
4 million per for Arrington.
5 million per offered to Welker.

There we have the problem. If anyone wonders why Welker was so turned off, it's because of things like this. Arrington needs to improve his play to justify this deal.


CP you know I love ya, but who cares? Did WW really expect the Patriots to treat him any differently than anybody else? For as disloyal as they're being towards Welker, they're being loyal to every other guy still on the roster who wants to win next season.


My comment is more negative about Arrington, than positive about Welker. I think we needed to change what we were doing at WR, BB obviously thought that involved letting Welker go, I'm content with that decision. I think we're going to have 3 better CBs then Arrington on this roster when we start the season.

Talib,
McCourty (even at safety, he's a better option then Arrington at CB)
Dennard.

But bottom line, BB likes Arrington, so we'll continue to watch him chase WR's down the field for the next few years.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billy Spikes wrote:
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Kyle Arrington received a $6.5 million signing bonus. Should have $2.625 million cap number this year.


http://twitter.com/GregABedard/statuses/313102666748289025


So, according to Miguel, That should put the Patriots at $15.175M under the cap, minus whatever Wilson's number is.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canadian_Patriot wrote:
I think we're going to have 3 better CBs then Arrington on this roster when we start the season.

Talib,
McCourty (even at safety, he's a better option then Arrington at CB)
Dennard.


Isn't that the point? They're paying Arrington on the basis of him being an excellent slot/#3 CB? So once the 2 starters and the team's FS are out of the equation, you need that 5th DB.

Arrington happens to excel in that role which is why he was paid a decent amount of money


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really liked thr way our secondary was playing after we acquired Talib last season; if the corners can stay healthy & out of prison, I think we will see a large improvement next season.
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