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Nodisrespect


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like this signing a lot, i've been watching his games since wednesday.

Good in coverage
Excellent tackler
Ok vs the run
He's the cleanup man if Briggs misses his tackle.
Not much of a pass rusher though
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver&Black88 wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Maybe McClain isn't cut because Palmer is on the roster and they want to keep the last june 1st exemption for whoever they can't trade.

We already used one on Huff, we may want to hold onto that flexibility for a little while longer.


Of course this all hinges on if we are keeping Pallmer or McCLain.


Kelly too.


Keep in mind there are 2 June 1st exemptions, but after June 1st there's no need for those. Nothing saying we can't cut just those guys after June 1st, especially if we are not in dire need of cap room right now.
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holyghost wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
Nodisrespect wrote:
Maybe McClain isn't cut because Palmer is on the roster and they want to keep the last june 1st exemption for whoever they can't trade.

We already used one on Huff, we may want to hold onto that flexibility for a little while longer.


Of course this all hinges on if we are keeping Pallmer or McCLain.


Kelly too.


Keep in mind there are 2 June 1st exemptions, but after June 1st there's no need for those. Nothing saying we can't cut just those guys after June 1st, especially if we are not in dire need of cap room right now.


Well I guess it comes down to trying to get Palmer to take a pay cut or trading him. Because you know they want to hold onto him if possible and get rid of McClain sooner to avoid any bonuses or whatever pre-June.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nodisrespect wrote:
I like this signing a lot, i've been watching his games since wednesday.

Good in coverage
Excellent tackler
Ok vs the run
He's the cleanup man if Briggs misses his tackle.
Not much of a pass rusher though


Really very little need in general to rush the passer from the MLB spot. I liked Wheeler and Burris on their blitzes alot last year, it wasn't used enough. So Burris rushing will be fine for me, he's actually a pretty aggressive rusher and should do it more. Looked much better doing that than he did tackling in space..

I see Roach as a stability creator for us in the middle. A solid who maes the calls and sticks around for a few years just gluing together a new defense. Stability. After that, he can be upgraded if an upgrade is found. And I don't think the staff sees someone like him as an end all and be all at the position. He's someone that fits us well at the moment.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

McClain is probably favourite to be a post June 1st cut. He's young and stupid. The team might give him a chance to show he can cop himself on. Of the 3 he's the only one who has some sort of potential/upside in the future. All three might stick around until after the draft unless traded anyway. Might be a chance a team has their eyes set on a QB, DT, MLB in the draft but miss out on them so get desperate.
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Does anyone know what his contract looks like?


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Darkness wrote:
Does anyone know what his contract looks like?


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http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/dennis-pitta/
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Rolni wrote:
Darkness wrote:
Darkness wrote:
Does anyone know what his contract looks like?


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http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/dennis-pitta/


Dennis Pitta? ha I meant Nick Roach.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

solid signing, would like to see 1 more vet, but probably going to settle for a draft pick and a couple udfa's...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

meh.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raidin wrote:
Unless we got 3-4 why would we grab another MLB in the draft? It seems we are pretty set at the linebacker position. Burris, Roach, and cousin Rock. Considering our other holes I'm not sure I'd want to go LB unless he is clear BPA.


I think that Roach can play all three LB positions, so if we draft a MLB and it turns out he can ball, Roach can play the outside spots if someone struggles
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darkness wrote:
Rolni wrote:
Darkness wrote:
Darkness wrote:
Does anyone know what his contract looks like?


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http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/dennis-pitta/


Dennis Pitta? ha I meant Nick Roach.


All we know right now is it' a 3-4 year deal for 3-4M\year...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can Roach play ILB in the 3-4?

am I wrong in assuming that neither Maiava or Roach could fulfill the "thumper" role?

Do these signings signify that we're going to be a 4-3 team?

So many questions...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There aren't too many questions. Roach will play MLB and Maiava will play one of the OLB spots.

Simple actually.
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