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Silver&Black88


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OakRaiders3828 wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
RunDmc23 wrote:
Oakland Raiders Savior = Bridgewater plain and simple


I can do this also.

Circa 2011:

Oakland Raiders Savior = Barkley plain and simple



Honestly.....I wouldn't mind if we picked Barkley even in the late first on a trade down. But I could have my homer shades on. I know I'm probably alone on that one too, which is fine. And fair.


EH, Just a smarter, Blonde haired Matt Leinart IMO


I think of him as a smarter Andy Dalton.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver&Black88 wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
RunDmc23 wrote:
Oakland Raiders Savior = Bridgewater plain and simple


I can do this also.

Circa 2011:

Oakland Raiders Savior = Barkley plain and simple



Honestly.....I wouldn't mind if we picked Barkley even in the late first on a trade down. But I could have my homer shades on. I know I'm probably alone on that one too, which is fine. And fair.


EH, Just a smarter, Blonde haired Matt Leinart IMO


I think of him as a smarter Andy Dalton.


Possibly, I think USC's decline is more Kiffins fault. Barkley did throw a ridiculous amount of checkdowns/screens though from what I've seen. Who would you compare his arm strength to?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OakRaiders3828 wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
RunDmc23 wrote:
Oakland Raiders Savior = Bridgewater plain and simple


I can do this also.

Circa 2011:

Oakland Raiders Savior = Barkley plain and simple



Honestly.....I wouldn't mind if we picked Barkley even in the late first on a trade down. But I could have my homer shades on. I know I'm probably alone on that one too, which is fine. And fair.


EH, Just a smarter, Blonde haired Matt Leinart IMO


I think of him as a smarter Andy Dalton.


Possibly, I think USC's decline is more Kiffins fault. Barkley did throw a ridiculous amount of checkdowns/screens though from what I've seen. Who would you compare his arm strength to?


Honestly, its been a while and my mind has been elsewhere to make a correct judgement atm. I wouldn't say he has a strong arm, but I would say its at least adequate.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would we need a new OC if we got Barkley? or could he function in Olson's system.
I like Barkley, his arm is good enough to play in this league, a lot of his issues in college were due to the offensive line. His intangilbes seem limited but there's no way to know for sure until he gets on a team.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clowney is going to be so good. Check out these highlights... from high school:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTkmiBdoBDc

For the past 7+ years he's been the best player on the field Shocked

Bridgewater is going to be great too
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raiiiiidersssss wrote:
Clowney is going to be so good. Check out these highlights... from high school:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTkmiBdoBDc

For the past 7+ years he's been the best player on the field Shocked

Bridgewater is going to be great too



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

macklemore wrote:
Raiiiiidersssss wrote:
Clowney is going to be so good. Check out these highlights... from high school:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTkmiBdoBDc

For the past 7+ years he's been the best player on the field Shocked

Bridgewater is going to be great too




Have you been following Manziel? He is really caught up in his own media hype. I've read that defensive coordinators are REALLY pissed off about the read option and are really dedicated this off-season to stop it. We will see how these read option QBs stand up next season.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NOw that Joeckel is gone were gonna get a better look at Manziel and how he handles only having one top tackle. I wonder what kind of numbers Bridgewater would have put up with that line?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baggabonez wrote:
Have you been following Manziel? He is really caught up in his own media hype. I've read that defensive coordinators are REALLY pissed off about the read option and are really dedicated this off-season to stop it. We will see how these read option QBs stand up next season.


I think Manziel is the real deal, the kid is like someone you create on madden and give 90+ stats in every category, then play on rookie setting.

Even if DC's figure out the read option and his stats regress I still think it's possible for him to improve as a player. Manziel isn't the type of QB who can consistently run the option in the NFL anyways, too small. Manziel will be absolutely deadly scrambling out of the pocket though, like a white Mike Vick.
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To the man who said Teddy is a running/read option QB... I revoke you from ever talking about Teddy again until you watch some film. If you watched at least ONE of his games you would know that is not the case. The man had less than 30 yards rushing on the season.
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To the man who said Teddy is a running/read option QB... I revoke you from ever talking about Teddy again until you watch some film. If you watched at least ONE of his games you would know that is not the case. The man had less than 30 yards rushing on the season.


Yeah it was a dumb comment based on nothing.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To the man who said Teddy is a running/read option QB... I revoke you from ever talking about Teddy again until you watch some film. If you watched at least ONE of his games you would know that is not the case. The man had less than 30 yards rushing on the season.


Yeah it was a dumb comment based on nothing.


Ignorance. He looked at a pic of him and was like "yup, run first, read option QB"
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boo_This_Man wrote:
To the man who said Teddy is a running/read option QB... I revoke you from ever talking about Teddy again until you watch some film. If you watched at least ONE of his games you would know that is not the case. The man had less than 30 yards rushing on the season.


For telling people what they can and cannot do about the guy, you should be a little more informed yourself b/c this is entirely inaccurate. Hell, he had 75 in one game alone LOL.

Sacks come off the QBs rushing total in college while passing totals in the pros. His sacks lessened his rushing total for the years but he had plenty more than 30 rushing yards LOL
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JTagg7754 wrote:
Boo_This_Man wrote:
To the man who said Teddy is a running/read option QB... I revoke you from ever talking about Teddy again until you watch some film. If you watched at least ONE of his games you would know that is not the case. The man had less than 30 yards rushing on the season.


For telling people what they can and cannot do about the guy, you should be a little more informed yourself b/c this is entirely inaccurate. Hell, he had 75 in one game alone LOL.

Sacks come off the QBs rushing total in college while passing totals in the pros. His sacks lessened his rushing total for the years but he had plenty more than 30 rushing yards LOL


so Andrew Luck had almost 500 yards rushing in 1 season, does that make him a read option quarterback
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OakRaiders3828 wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
Boo_This_Man wrote:
To the man who said Teddy is a running/read option QB... I revoke you from ever talking about Teddy again until you watch some film. If you watched at least ONE of his games you would know that is not the case. The man had less than 30 yards rushing on the season.


For telling people what they can and cannot do about the guy, you should be a little more informed yourself b/c this is entirely inaccurate. Hell, he had 75 in one game alone LOL.

Sacks come off the QBs rushing total in college while passing totals in the pros. His sacks lessened his rushing total for the years but he had plenty more than 30 rushing yards LOL


so Andrew Luck had almost 500 yards rushing in 1 season, does that make him a read option quarterback



Now that you mention it......
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