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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freeney, Abraham and Osi are all washed up imo and if one of them is signed, they should be complimented with a draft pick if at all possible.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abraham had the same amount of tackles (32) and one less sack than Dumervil did last year. I am not sure if he is washed up. He may be getting older, but not washed up. Put him opposite of Von and Abraham may get more sacks.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jsthomp2007 wrote:
Abraham had the same amount of tackles (32) and one less sack than Dumervil did last year. I am not sure if he is washed up. He may be getting older, but not washed up. Put him opposite of Von and Abraham may get more sacks.


If Abraham is signed, I think they will treat him a bit like the Rockies treated Giambi.
He will need to be in a rotation(to keep him fresh) and not wear him down over the course of the season.
Freeny will prolly be treated the same. I have no problem working it that way, as long as the price is acceptable.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Stewart Bradley had not signed in Denver, I have to assume they'd reach out to Urlacher.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JerseysFinest27 wrote:
If Stewart Bradley had not signed in Denver, I have to assume they'd reach out to Urlacher.


Bradley at 1 year/$1.2 million
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Urlacher at 1 year/$3.5 to $4 million (what he is seeking)
https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/314530833174257664

Denver could have probably shaved that number down a little, but the Bears offered $2 million and he wouldn't take it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

copeland wrote:
jsthomp2007 wrote:
Abraham had the same amount of tackles (32) and one less sack than Dumervil did last year. I am not sure if he is washed up. He may be getting older, but not washed up. Put him opposite of Von and Abraham may get more sacks.


If Abraham is signed, I think they will treat him a bit like the Rockies treated Giambi.
He will need to be in a rotation(to keep him fresh) and not wear him down over the course of the season.
Freeny will prolly be treated the same. I have no problem working it that way, as long as the price is acceptable.


Giambi is 1,000 years old and wasn't that good late in his career, accept for a few pinch hit bombs. Abraham is still producing...effectively! But, I also wouldn't mind the young DE's to take their snaps in a limited/special situation role.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So lets pick up 2 overaged, over the hill guys who are basically the same player as Dumervil, just lesser caliber. Sounds like a plan. Laughing


If we pick up either of them to start, I still want to draft a DE very early.


Freeney and Abraham are just as bad, if not worse than Dumervil against the run.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Freeney and Abraham are just as bad, if not worse than Dumervil against the run.


IMO Abraham is a little bit better. I say that we start Ayers, use Freeney/Abraham as pass rushers only to start the season and ease a pass rush specialist we drafted into the rotation as the year goes on.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Freeney and Abraham are just as bad, if not worse than Dumervil against the run.


IMO Abraham is a little bit better. I say that we start Ayers, use Freeney/Abraham as pass rushers only to start the season and ease a pass rush specialist we drafted into the rotation as the year goes on.


Abraham is better against the run than Dumervil for sure
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broncos67 wrote:
BroncosFan2010 wrote:
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Freeney and Abraham are just as bad, if not worse than Dumervil against the run.


IMO Abraham is a little bit better. I say that we start Ayers, use Freeney/Abraham as pass rushers only to start the season and ease a pass rush specialist we drafted into the rotation as the year goes on.


Abraham is better against the run than Dumervil for sure


I agree. Why not just put Abraham in as THE starter, if he signs with the Broncos. He has been an all around good, to better than average, DE in this league for a long time. Is grooming a DE of the future necessary, of course! But, plugging Abraham in at DE for Dumervil will be fine. He will do better I think. I think Abraham will take advantage of having Von opposite of him.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JerseysFinest27 wrote:
If Stewart Bradley had not signed in Denver, I have to assume they'd reach out to Urlacher.


May as well just bring back Brooking, why bother with Urlacher?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JerseysFinest27 wrote:
If Stewart Bradley had not signed in Denver, I have to assume they'd reach out to Urlacher.

I doubt that, Elway is actually is good at his job.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AntiSuperstar wrote:
JerseysFinest27 wrote:
If Stewart Bradley had not signed in Denver, I have to assume they'd reach out to Urlacher.


May as well just bring back Brooking, why bother with Urlacher?

You honestly think Brooking is better than Urlacher? Obviously, price not being an issue...

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I doubt that, Elway is actually is good at his job.

Good contribution. If Elway is "reaching out" to Dwight Freeney, I have to assume he would have "reached out" to Urlacher.

Context. Context. Context.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JerseysFinest27 wrote:
AnAngryAmerican wrote:
I doubt that, Elway is actually is good at his job.

Good contribution. If Elway is "reaching out" to Dwight Freeney, I have to assume he would have "reached out" to Urlacher.

Context. Context. Context.

You're exactly right, context.

The context of us reaching out to Freeney et al. was a) to put leverage on Dumervil to re-negotiate and b) have a "worst case" scenario option. Elway & Co like our current talent crop at MLB a lot better than they do at pass rusher. If Bradley hadn't signed, there were other, better, younger options available (in both the draft and FA) to be the backup MLB (and SLB, Bradley will make the team on Von's backup while two of Mays, Irving and Johnson make the depth chart at MLB) and a special teams contributor than a soon-to-be 35 year-old Brian Urlacher.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnAngryAmerican wrote:
JerseysFinest27 wrote:
AnAngryAmerican wrote:
I doubt that, Elway is actually is good at his job.

Good contribution. If Elway is "reaching out" to Dwight Freeney, I have to assume he would have "reached out" to Urlacher.

Context. Context. Context.

You're exactly right, context.

The context of us reaching out to Freeney et al. was a) to put leverage on Dumervil to re-negotiate and b) have a "worst case" scenario option. Elway & Co like our current talent crop at MLB a lot better than they do at pass rusher. If Bradley hadn't signed, there were other, better, younger options available (in both the draft and FA) to be the backup MLB (and SLB, Bradley will make the team on Von's backup while two of Mays, Irving and Johnson make the depth chart at MLB) and a special teams contributor than a soon-to-be 35 year-old Brian Urlacher.

So now you can a.) predict the future or b.) have telepathic powers and know what Elway is thinking? Interesting...

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