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THE MAD STORK
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 96
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| DOCLEW 28 wrote: | | ch8878 wrote: | | big_palooka wrote: | | raidr4life wrote: | | Now lets resign Shaggy to play LE move Houstan to UT. |
Please. Shut. Up. With. This.
Houston has no reason to move inside. He's undersized. He's playing just fine in his position.
On Sims:
Like the signing. Big NT to eat up space. Guessing Floyd will be playing next to him w/ Bilukidi rotating in. |
How is Houston undersized hes played DT pretty much his whole life ?
Dennis Allen and Reggie has done said Houston maybe moving inside 4 sacks don't cut it at DE. |
Houston aint playing DT at 285 lbs. You can just forget it. SMH.  |
who said he would play DT at 285? i dont think anyone would play DT at 285..he was 300 coming out of Texas where he was a very good DT. I don't know why you guys think he cant play there? hes not that great at DE, and I believe he would be a very solid DT. should not be much of a transition..
I remember when he came out of college I was pumped we got him, because he played so good in his bowl game against alabama I believE? |
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raidr4life 
Joined: 10 Jan 2010 Posts: 2163 Location: Fresno, California
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| THE MAD STORK wrote: | | DOCLEW 28 wrote: | | ch8878 wrote: | | big_palooka wrote: | | raidr4life wrote: | | Now lets resign Shaggy to play LE move Houstan to UT. |
Please. Shut. Up. With. This.
Houston has no reason to move inside. He's undersized. He's playing just fine in his position.
On Sims:
Like the signing. Big NT to eat up space. Guessing Floyd will be playing next to him w/ Bilukidi rotating in. |
How is Houston undersized hes played DT pretty much his whole life ?
Dennis Allen and Reggie has done said Houston maybe moving inside 4 sacks don't cut it at DE. |
Houston aint playing DT at 285 lbs. You can just forget it. SMH.  |
who said he would play DT at 285? i dont think anyone would play DT at 285..he was 300 coming out of Texas where he was a very good DT. I don't know why you guys think he cant play there? hes not that great at DE, and I believe he would be a very solid DT. should not be much of a transition..
I remember when he came out of college I was pumped we got him, because he played so good in his bowl game against alabama I believE? | Yeah I guess everyone forgot DA said Houstan will be moving inside, didnt say how much though. _________________
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JTagg7754 
Joined: 09 Nov 2010 Posts: 7221 Location: Somewhere in Ohio
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like my FFMD want actually happened LOL. Like the signing... obviously. _________________
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you wouldnt want Rodgers Brady or Manning in his prime as your QBs? |
not with the way the nfl is right now. id take a guy like kaep over them |
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DOCLEW 28 
Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 10586 Location: East Oakland
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:29 am Post subject: |
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The bottom line on Houston is that the team asked him to trim down to play DE and he did. And he plays it well.
Why would they ask him to trim down one season and he does it to get to 285. Ahen a year later ask him to bulk back up to 300??? It doesn't make sense!!!
DA said that he will move inside in pass rush situations IIRC. That does not mean that he will be in there permanenely.  _________________
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Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 3116 Location: Hollywierd
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:06 am Post subject: |
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Like the Sims pick-up and I'm in the Houston to UT camp...
However I'd like to see what we draft and just put Houston all over the place to create mismatches.
I think we might go 3-4 after the Draft but...I could easily see them having him put the weight back on and having to pay him DT money instead of DE money. He's a good DE but might be a GREAT UT. No matter where he is I love his motor and passion for the game. Hope we keep him and Veldheer. I'd be talking extension before the season starts. |
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raidr4life 
Joined: 10 Jan 2010 Posts: 2163 Location: Fresno, California
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:28 am Post subject: |
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| DOCLEW 28 wrote: | The bottom line on Houston is that the team asked him to trim down to play DE and he did. And he plays it well.
Why would they ask him to trim down one season and he does it to get to 285. Ahen a year later ask him to bulk back up to 300??? It doesn't make sense!!!
DA said that he will move inside in pass rush situations IIRC. That does not mean that he will be in there permanenely.  | It can turn permanent if he's beasting. _________________
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oakdb36 
Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 12723
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:31 am Post subject: |
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| DOCLEW 28 wrote: | The bottom line on Houston is that the team asked him to trim down to play DE and he did. And he plays it well.
Why would they ask him to trim down one season and he does it to get to 285. Ahen a year later ask him to bulk back up to 300??? It doesn't make sense!!!
DA said that he will move inside in pass rush situations IIRC. That does not mean that he will be in there permanenely.  |
Last year, they had Seymour and Bryant at 3T, they're both gone now. It's not too far fetched to think they might ask him to bulk up again so he can go back to the position he played in college.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=65430&draftyear=2010&genpos=DT
He had freaky measurables for a DT at the combine. He'd be a nightmare to handle for most Gs. If he moves to 3T, he can make a much bigger impact, imo. _________________
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Dreadymatt
Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Posts: 756 Location: Saturn
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| really depends if we play 4-3 or 3-4 - he could definitely be a good UT in 4-3 but also an excellent DE in 3-4, personally i think those 2 positions suit his skill set more than 4-3 DE ... well chuffed this is even an option, consequential on Sims signing |
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LivingLegendWFC 
Joined: 28 Oct 2009 Posts: 10956 Location: BP On The Geno Sig
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| raidr4life wrote: | | THE MAD STORK wrote: | | DOCLEW 28 wrote: | | ch8878 wrote: | | big_palooka wrote: | | raidr4life wrote: | | Now lets resign Shaggy to play LE move Houstan to UT. |
Please. Shut. Up. With. This.
Houston has no reason to move inside. He's undersized. He's playing just fine in his position.
On Sims:
Like the signing. Big NT to eat up space. Guessing Floyd will be playing next to him w/ Bilukidi rotating in. |
How is Houston undersized hes played DT pretty much his whole life ?
Dennis Allen and Reggie has done said Houston maybe moving inside 4 sacks don't cut it at DE. |
Houston aint playing DT at 285 lbs. You can just forget it. SMH.  |
who said he would play DT at 285? i dont think anyone would play DT at 285..he was 300 coming out of Texas where he was a very good DT. I don't know why you guys think he cant play there? hes not that great at DE, and I believe he would be a very solid DT. should not be much of a transition..
I remember when he came out of college I was pumped we got him, because he played so good in his bowl game against alabama I believE? | Yeah I guess everyone forgot DA said Houstan will be moving inside, didnt say how much though. |
He said he would depending on the situation. Not that he was making the transition to DT as his position. He can play situationally at 285ish, but if he wants to play DT full time hes going to have to put the weight back on.
I prefer Houston wheres he at. _________________
Favorite Prospects - Tank Carradine, Kwame Geathers, Gerald Hodges, Justin Hunter, Luke Joeckel, Barrett Jones, Jarvis Jones, Corey Lemonier, Bacarri Rambo, Sheldon Richardson, Geno Smith, Larry Warford, |
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Oaktown 
Joined: 29 Sep 2006 Posts: 3125
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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I think oak moves to 34. ESP if Dan Connor is signed.
Bring back Shaugnessy to play RE
NT Sims
LE Houston
DA said he only views Houston at 3T in nickel D
I think Reggie tries to trade down to get extra pick. Oak will draft an pass rushing LB. mingo , jones , Jordan etc |
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reddevil 
Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 401
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Oaktown wrote: | I think oak moves to 34. ESP if Dan Connor is signed.
Bring back Shaugnessy to play RE
NT Sims
LE Houston
DA said he only views Houston at 3T in nickel D
I think Reggie tries to trade down to get extra pick. Oak will draft an pass rushing LB. mingo , jones , Jordan etc |
I've been thinking this. It seems we have been going after quite a few LBs what with Roach and Connor and I don't think we have too many more players that are out and out 4-3 types. I wonder if the staff are trying to get as many versatile players who could fit in both systems and will then look to draft the best defensive difference maker in either system - be that a 3-4 pass-rushing LB or a 4-3 UT or RE. |
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Rolni 
Joined: 08 Jun 2008 Posts: 2163 Location: Europe
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:40 am Post subject: |
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| Oaktown wrote: | I think oak moves to 34. ESP if Dan Connor is signed.
Bring back Shaugnessy to play RE
NT Sims
LE Houston
DA said he only views Houston at 3T in nickel D
I think Reggie tries to trade down to get extra pick. Oak will draft an pass rushing LB. mingo , jones , Jordan etc |
Connor is a 4-3 MLB.
Roach is a 4-3 SLB.
Hunetr is a 4-3 DE.
Shaggy is leaving for (amost) sure.
Sims is a 4-3NT.
Maiava is a better fit in 4-3 IMO.
Not one single guy arrived via FA, draft since RM and DA got here who would be a real 3-4 fit, so you guys could forget this 3-4 thing... _________________ WIN LOSE OR TIE...RAIDER FAN 'TIL I DIE!!
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raidr4life 
Joined: 10 Jan 2010 Posts: 2163 Location: Fresno, California
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| Rolni wrote: | | Oaktown wrote: | I think oak moves to 34. ESP if Dan Connor is signed.
Bring back Shaugnessy to play RE
NT Sims
LE Houston
DA said he only views Houston at 3T in nickel D
I think Reggie tries to trade down to get extra pick. Oak will draft an pass rushing LB. mingo , jones , Jordan etc |
Connor is a 4-3 MLB.
Roach is a 4-3 SLB.
Hunetr is a 4-3 DE.
Shaggy is leaving for (amost) sure.
Sims is a 4-3NT.
Maiava is a better fit in 4-3 IMO.
Not one single guy arrived via FA, draft since RM and DA got here who would be a real 3-4 fit, so you guys could forget this 3-4 thing... | exactly _________________
OUR FUTURE PREMIERE LT!!
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TiberiusRising
Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 5553
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| Rolni wrote: | | Oaktown wrote: | I think oak moves to 34. ESP if Dan Connor is signed.
Bring back Shaugnessy to play RE
NT Sims
LE Houston
DA said he only views Houston at 3T in nickel D
I think Reggie tries to trade down to get extra pick. Oak will draft an pass rushing LB. mingo , jones , Jordan etc |
Connor is a 4-3 MLB.
Roach is a 4-3 SLB.
Hunetr is a 4-3 DE.
Shaggy is leaving for (amost) sure.
Sims is a 4-3NT.
Maiava is a better fit in 4-3 IMO.
Not one single guy arrived via FA, draft since RM and DA got here who would be a real 3-4 fit, so you guys could forget this 3-4 thing... |
I agree these are all 4-3 guys but are capable of playing in 3-4 fronts if needed for a handful of plays. |
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oakdb36 
Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 12723
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah Roach and Maiava are 43 LBs. I know Maiava played some 34 but it's not a fit for him.
Maiava is our SLB to replace Wheeler because Allen wants SLBs who can cover the TEs.
Roach is our MLB.
Burris is staying at WLB. _________________
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