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JTagg7754


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HvacRaider wrote:
I want Pryor to start we need to know if he is a starter
Or even a backup. I think he will be a above average
QB. With the rumor of VY floating around
If shows that most people in the media see Pryor
As a legitimate option for us, I'm just wondering why
It wasn't far tarvaris Jackson joe Webb or any other
Semi mobile QB being talked about


I would think the opposite. W/ all the rumors w/ VY floating around, I would say it's b/c people don't think Pryor is capable.... why else look for the QB who is essentially exactly the same??
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JTagg7754 wrote:
HvacRaider wrote:
I want Pryor to start we need to know if he is a starter
Or even a backup. I think he will be a above average
QB. With the rumor of VY floating around
If shows that most people in the media see Pryor
As a legitimate option for us, I'm just wondering why
It wasn't far tarvaris Jackson joe Webb or any other
Semi mobile QB being talked about


I would think the opposite. W/ all the rumors w/ VY floating around, I would say it's b/c people don't think Pryor is capable.... why else look for the QB who is essentially exactly the same??


If the QB is the same type player then the offense
Doesn't need to change all that much if the starter goes down
So that's why you might look to bring in the same type player
Look at Philly they have Vick and brought in Dixon
It just makes sense to not have a traditional/running starter and a
Backup completely opposite
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like you guys are overlooking what seems to be interest in Vince Young on Vince Young's end. Did Oakland ask about him? I didn't read that part.. So how can anything about this indicate anything about Pryor or Palmer?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HvacRaider wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
HvacRaider wrote:
I want Pryor to start we need to know if he is a starter
Or even a backup. I think he will be a above average
QB. With the rumor of VY floating around
If shows that most people in the media see Pryor
As a legitimate option for us, I'm just wondering why
It wasn't far tarvaris Jackson joe Webb or any other
Semi mobile QB being talked about


I would think the opposite. W/ all the rumors w/ VY floating around, I would say it's b/c people don't think Pryor is capable.... why else look for the QB who is essentially exactly the same??


If the QB is the same type player then the offense
Doesn't need to change all that much if the starter goes down
So that's why you might look to bring in the same type player
Look at Philly they have Vick and brought in Dixon
It just makes sense to not have a traditional/running starter and a
Backup completely opposite


So Joe Flacco and Tyrod Taylor are the same? Vick and Foles? While I agree your logic makes sense, I just don't agree that's the case.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nbaker1933 wrote:
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nbaker1933 wrote:
Not a big fan of TP or VY. but VY has better arm strength than TP.

No he doesn't.


Im going purely off his one SD game. Im not talking how far he can throw, but the velocity on a pass to pass basis.

But i am in the Cut Palmer see what TP cando camp. (even though i think Palmer is lightyears better) I just dont see us as more than a 6 win team with Palmer next year anyway.

Hmm ok. And I agree on the 2nd half of your post.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JTagg7754 wrote:
HvacRaider wrote:
I want Pryor to start we need to know if he is a starter
Or even a backup. I think he will be a above average
QB. With the rumor of VY floating around
If shows that most people in the media see Pryor
As a legitimate option for us, I'm just wondering why
It wasn't far tarvaris Jackson joe Webb or any other
Semi mobile QB being talked about


I would think the opposite. W/ all the rumors w/ VY floating around, I would say it's b/c people don't think Pryor is capable.... why else look for the QB who is essentially exactly the same??


Because ultimately neither is capable of of high caliber QB play. #JointheClownParade #SuckitDocLew #Backinguptogetarunningstart Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting analysis from the pro-day he worked out at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ORg6sOf71I

(from about 3.30 - he looks good, throwing a nice ball)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baggabonez wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
HvacRaider wrote:
I want Pryor to start we need to know if he is a starter
Or even a backup. I think he will be a above average
QB. With the rumor of VY floating around
If shows that most people in the media see Pryor
As a legitimate option for us, I'm just wondering why
It wasn't far tarvaris Jackson joe Webb or any other
Semi mobile QB being talked about


I would think the opposite. W/ all the rumors w/ VY floating around, I would say it's b/c people don't think Pryor is capable.... why else look for the QB who is essentially exactly the same??


Because ultimately neither is capable of of high caliber QB play. #JointheClownParade #SuckitDocLew #Backinguptogetarunningstart Very Happy


I'm still convinced that if we get the first overall pick, Clowney is staying in school.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JTagg7754 wrote:
Baggabonez wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
HvacRaider wrote:
I want Pryor to start we need to know if he is a starter
Or even a backup. I think he will be a above average
QB. With the rumor of VY floating around
If shows that most people in the media see Pryor
As a legitimate option for us, I'm just wondering why
It wasn't far tarvaris Jackson joe Webb or any other
Semi mobile QB being talked about


I would think the opposite. W/ all the rumors w/ VY floating around, I would say it's b/c people don't think Pryor is capable.... why else look for the QB who is essentially exactly the same??


Because ultimately neither is capable of of high caliber QB play. #JointheClownParade #SuckitDocLew #Backinguptogetarunningstart Very Happy


I'm still convinced that if we get the first overall pick, Clowney is staying in school.


I don't think Clowney really likes school. He has been NFL ready since his freshman year. I think it is more likely that Clowney threatens to hold out. However, I am confident that eventually McKenzie will sell Clowney on the new Raiders. In addition, the stadium issue (ie- potential move) will be much less convoluted. Lastly, the QB class will be far superior.

No one can be disappointed with a Clowney/Aaron Murry combo.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JTagg7754 wrote:
Baggabonez wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
HvacRaider wrote:
I want Pryor to start we need to know if he is a starter
Or even a backup. I think he will be a above average
QB. With the rumor of VY floating around
If shows that most people in the media see Pryor
As a legitimate option for us, I'm just wondering why
It wasn't far tarvaris Jackson joe Webb or any other
Semi mobile QB being talked about


I would think the opposite. W/ all the rumors w/ VY floating around, I would say it's b/c people don't think Pryor is capable.... why else look for the QB who is essentially exactly the same??


Because ultimately neither is capable of of high caliber QB play. #JointheClownParade #SuckitDocLew #Backinguptogetarunningstart Very Happy


I'm still convinced that if we get the first overall pick, Clowney is staying in school.


Why?

And I wouldn't mind Teddy anyway
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Raiiiiidersssss wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
Baggabonez wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
HvacRaider wrote:
I want Pryor to start we need to know if he is a starter
Or even a backup. I think he will be a above average
QB. With the rumor of VY floating around
If shows that most people in the media see Pryor
As a legitimate option for us, I'm just wondering why
It wasn't far tarvaris Jackson joe Webb or any other
Semi mobile QB being talked about


I would think the opposite. W/ all the rumors w/ VY floating around, I would say it's b/c people don't think Pryor is capable.... why else look for the QB who is essentially exactly the same??


Because ultimately neither is capable of of high caliber QB play. #JointheClownParade #SuckitDocLew #Backinguptogetarunningstart Very Happy


I'm still convinced that if we get the first overall pick, Clowney is staying in school.


Why?

And I wouldn't mind Teddy anyway


No good reason. Everyone drafting #1 overall is in a bad situation. College players go pro early to make money.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its sad, but if we signed VY he'd probably give us the biggest chance of winning in 2013
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holyghost wrote:
Seems like you guys are overlooking what seems to be interest in Vince Young on Vince Young's end. Did Oakland ask about him? I didn't read that part.. So how can anything about this indicate anything about Pryor or Palmer?


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