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Kempes
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| birdman0069 wrote: | | Kempes wrote: | Taking the glass half full stance on Sopoaga is just pointless, ''oh SF don't want him so why would we want him.... scrapheap signing'' etc...
SF have had many good years out of him, there has to come a time when they want to move on. Is Ed Reed a bad player because it looks like the Ravens are moving on from him? SF are in a great position now. They have endless amounts of draft picks to build for the future. Sopoaga was there for 8 years. Every cycle ends and that's what they're doing now. They'll find their new guy who will come in and play for another 8 years while they have a golden opportunity to do so.
Departing with Sopoaga isn't going to turn their D to crud, he's expendable, but that doesn't mean he's a bad player. I'm sure they could have got at least another 2 years out of him but moving on from him at this stage is the logical thing to do to ensure they keep their franchise moving. |
Go back a few pages. I said this was good signing.
I love the question, " is Ed Reed a bad player"? Of course not. But he isn't a great player anymore. If you think he hasn't lost a step you you would sadly mistaking.
Sopoaga is a nice transitional player, but that's it. Some people around here make this sound like the acquisition of the decade are are takin back by a report that he was the 4th best DT on the 49'ers last season. The reality is, the 49'ers won't miss a beat without him because he is a mediocre NT at best.
The difference is even being mediocre, he is better then anything else we currently have on this roster.
This is a nice signing. It will get us pointed in the right direction, but, he won't be here in 2 years time and this isn't a great signing of a great player. |
Yeah just saw that, I didn't mean it directly to you man, I was just getting an uneasy feeling from the thread.
I know Reed has definitely lost a step but someone is going to get a good year or two out of him, just like I hope we will with Sopoaga.
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Phire
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For what it's worth he might not even be the starter come next season. Had we signed RJF, wouldn't he have taken first string snaps? From what I can muster, it sounds like Sopoaga was more rotational than a starter at San Fran.
If we're getting a Star Lotulelei or potentially someone else between now and the end of April, Sopoaga is a good guy to have on your depth chart. Knowledgeable, experienced, hard working, and healthy.
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SiLo
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Only signing I like so far. Could be a solid presence.
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| Phire wrote: | For what it's worth he might not even be the starter come next season. Had we signed RJF, wouldn't he have taken first string snaps? From what I can muster, it sounds like Sopoaga was more rotational than a starter at San Fran.
If we're getting a Star Lotulelei or potentially someone else between now and the end of April, Sopoaga is a good guy to have on your depth chart. Knowledgeable, experienced, hard working, and healthy. |
RJF is more of an end than a nose tackle, so I think the planned starters along the line would have been Cox/Sopoaga/Jean-Francois.
In any case, Sopoaga is a stop-gap. He'll probably start if we don't add anyone else at NT, but I could easily see even a second-day pick at NT pushing him to a rotational role. |
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| WhackyPlague wrote: | | Phire wrote: | For what it's worth he might not even be the starter come next season. Had we signed RJF, wouldn't he have taken first string snaps? From what I can muster, it sounds like Sopoaga was more rotational than a starter at San Fran.
If we're getting a Star Lotulelei or potentially someone else between now and the end of April, Sopoaga is a good guy to have on your depth chart. Knowledgeable, experienced, hard working, and healthy. |
RJF is more of an end than a nose tackle, so I think the planned starters along the line would have been Cox/Sopoaga/Jean-Francois.
In any case, Sopoaga is a stop-gap. He'll probably start if we don't add anyone else at NT, but I could easily see even a second-day pick at NT pushing him to a rotational role. |
NT already is a rotational role. Soap only played 31% of SF snaps last year
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Love Isaac.
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He's going to clear up a ton of space for DeMeco and Kendricks.
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I like Kendricks but I don't think he success in this defense. Stinks, I was high on him.
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| Jroc04 wrote: | | I like Kendricks but I don't think he success in this defense. Stinks, I was high on him. |
Why woud Kendricks struggle in a 3-4/4-3 under?
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| Nabbs4u wrote: | | Jroc04 wrote: | | I like Kendricks but I don't think he success in this defense. Stinks, I was high on him. |
Why woud Kendricks struggle in a 3-4/4-3 under? |
Does he even have a starting spot?
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| Nabbs4u wrote: | | Jroc04 wrote: | | I like Kendricks but I don't think he success in this defense. Stinks, I was high on him. |
Why woud Kendricks struggle in a 3-4/4-3 under? |
He's small. I imagine he's going to see a lot of second level blockers.
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| Dr. Philly wrote: | | Nabbs4u wrote: | | Jroc04 wrote: | | I like Kendricks but I don't think he success in this defense. Stinks, I was high on him. |
Why woud Kendricks struggle in a 3-4/4-3 under? |
Does he even have a starting spot? |
Not knowing what's in store from kelly would he not fit as a athletic ILB next to Mecco? Better question in my eyes is where does Graham, Cole, Hunt, Curry fit in this with the Barwin addition, No?
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Kendricks needs to get bigger for sure. If I'm an offensive coordinator and I'm picking where to run the ball, it's right at Kendricks at the moment.
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| Jroc04 wrote: | | Nabbs4u wrote: | | Jroc04 wrote: | | I like Kendricks but I don't think he success in this defense. Stinks, I was high on him. |
Why woud Kendricks struggle in a 3-4/4-3 under? |
He's small. I imagine he's going to see a lot of second level blockers. |
He's 240. Same as P willy and bowman... And if we're going to run the same D as Cards kendricks will be the WILB and often the player who's not blocked
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | Jroc04 wrote: | | Nabbs4u wrote: | | Jroc04 wrote: | | I like Kendricks but I don't think he success in this defense. Stinks, I was high on him. |
Why woud Kendricks struggle in a 3-4/4-3 under? |
He's small. I imagine he's going to see a lot of second level blockers. |
He's 240. Same as P willy and bowman... And if we're going to run the same D as Cards kendricks will be the WILB and often the player who's not blocked |
They're completely different 240s.
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