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twslhs20


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rpmwr19 wrote:
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Oh lets give that fat worthless RT top 5 RT money. Makes sense.

Vikings be damned. I hope 26 wins a ring and rubs their noses in it.

He won't because he is nothing but class, but I will still hold out hope.


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Appropriate.


I missed out on the part where I called out any forum members.

maybe you can send me a link?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I don't get the venom that people develop for a team. We fans have nothing vested in it other than time and perhaps some cash spent on team gear or tickets. I'm not the one who has spent decades of his life training, practicing, playing, getting injured or sacrificing time away from home/loved ones. I'm not the one choosing where to spend my hundreds of millions of dollars.

I enjoy football, and I love the Vikings, but at the end of the day, it's entertainment; something to take my mind off of my 50 or 60 hour work weeks. There's very little sense in me getting angry or stressed out because of how a billion dollar organization chose to spend it's allotted funds.

Players come and go all the time. At some point, people who have devoted their lives to the game of football (and get paid significant amounts of money to do so) decided that this team was better off by letting Winfield go in the hopes they could get him back at a reduced price. It was a calculated risk, and the Vikings obviously felt that losing him was preferable to keeping him on the roster at 7 million dollars per year.

I don't particularly care for the move, but I root for the team and have far too many other things to be upset and concerned with in my life to get my blood pressure up over football decisions.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

twslhs20 wrote:
I missed out on the part where I called out any forum members.

maybe you can send me a link?

Class is only necessary when dealing with people you interact with? Got it.

I was commenting on the fact that you posted a picture that said "stay classy" after you posted an insult laden tirade against the Vikings earlier in the day.

My drama llama picture was likely over the top and unnecessary, so I apologize for that.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wcblack34 wrote:
I enjoy football, and I love the Vikings, but at the end of the day, it's entertainment; something to take my mind off of my 50 or 60 hour work weeks. There's very little sense in me getting angry or stressed out because of how a billion dollar organization chose to spend it's allotted funds.

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wcblack34 wrote:
Players come and go all the time. At some point, people who have devoted their lives to the game of football (and get paid significant amounts of money to do so) decided that this team was better off by letting Winfield go in the hopes they could get him back at a reduced price. It was a calculated risk, and the Vikings obviously felt that losing him was preferable to keeping him on the roster at 7 million dollars per year.

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wcblack34 wrote:
I don't particularly care for the move, but I root for the team and have far too many other things to be upset and concerned with in my life to get my blood pressure up over football decisions.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the end of the day, Winfield is a declining, 36 (edit: 35 now, 36 by the time the season starts) year old who would have strictly been our Nickle corner for, at most, one more year. His leadership will definitely be missed, but it's not anywhere near as big of a loss as some people are making it out to be.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He may be gone sooner than we thought, but he wasn't going to be here forever, so I'm okay with this. We just gotta keep building.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why didn't they just get rid of Carlson and his ridiculous contract and keep Winfield?

There is no way Carlson is worth what he is making for these garbage stats.
8 rec 43 yards 5.4 avg 0 tds

According to NFLPA records, Carlson is set to make a $2.9 million salary each in 2012 and 2013, $3.9 million in 2014, and $4.9 million each in 2015 and 2016. With $100,000 annual workout bonuses, the deal maxes out at about $25 million - with a reported $11 million guaranteed.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vike daddy wrote:
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Am I the only one that is really starting to despise the Seachickens?

not at all.

in fact, i'd say Spielman is modeling his team building strategy after them - sign a lot of young guys, and keep their contracts manageable.


If anything, both teams are building themselves in the mold of the 49ers.

I expected this to happen. Once you hear the Seahawks are going after a former Viking, you can kiss that guys chance of resigning here goodbye. We can't outbid them.

I hope he does well. Seattle got one hell of a player, and a man on their team.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carlson restructured, and getting rid of him this year would have cost us cap space.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you guys think the number 26 for the Vikings will be/should be retired?

I'd like to believe so, but I can't see it happening.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you guys think the number 26 for the Vikings will be/should be retired?

I'd like to believe so, but I can't see it happening.


No and it shouldn't be. You don't need to retire numbers to honor players accomplishments and contributions to a franchise imo
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SteelKing728 wrote:
Do you guys think the number 26 for the Vikings will be/should be retired?

I'd like to believe so, but I can't see it happening.


He has a chance to go into the Ring of Honor, but there's no way we retire his number. Only 6 Vikings have their number retired. Winfield is not one of the 10 best Vikings of all-time. Not even close.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SteelKing728 wrote:
Do you guys think the number 26 for the Vikings will be/should be retired?

no, he was a very good player and Viking representative, but his onfield performance won't be too remembered decades from now.

that's who the Vikings retire numbers for.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SteelKing728 wrote:
Do you guys think the number 26 for the Vikings will be/should be retired?

I'd like to believe so, but I can't see it happening.


No.

Maybe Frank can post some pictures of dancing men to celebrate the achievements of Winfield as a Viking, and lighten the mood in here as of late?

On second thought, never mind.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

to demonstrate Winfield's resiliency, these are the other players drafted with him in the first round in 1999:

QB Tim Couch
QB Donovan McNabb
QB Akili Smith
QB Daunte Culpepper
QB Cade McNown

RB Edgerrin James
RB Ricky Williams

WR Torry Holt
WR David Boston
WR Troy Edwards

DB Champ Bailey
DB Chris McAlister
DB Antwan Edwards
DB Fernando Bryant

LB Chris Claiborne
LB Jevon Kearse
LB Andy Katzenmoyer
LB Al Wilson

OL John Tait
OL Damien Woody
OL Matt Stinchcomb
OL Luke Petitgout
OL L.J. Shelton
OL Aaron Gibson

DL Anthony McFarland
DL Ebenezer Ekuban
DL Lamar King
DL Reggie McGrew
DL Dimitrius Underwood
DL Patrick Kerney
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