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Arthur Brown #1 Crazy? or the perfect match?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RVM pls.
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Rumless wrote:
RVM pls.


Don't worry, this too shall pass.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicfre2011 wrote:
Rumless wrote:
RVM pls.


Don't worry, this too shall pass.

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my love for Arthur Brown? not likely. I don't see why he isn't easily considered the best LB prospect since Willis.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One good reason he isn't worth #1? How about three?

DJ, Houston and Tamba.

We don't need a world beater at SILB. We need a gap filling hole plugger. Those can be found in free agency and in the middle rounds of the draft. Having a Patrick Willis/Ray Lewis type of prospect in the draft is the only way I could get behind taking an ILB in the top 5. So no. Sorry, can't board this train. If we trade down? Even then, meh....but I guess I could live with it in that case.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicfre2011 wrote:
Rumless wrote:
RVM pls.


Don't worry, this too shall pass.

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And how about you actually discuss the player instead of this crap posting.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rearviewmirror wrote:
nicfre2011 wrote:
Rumless wrote:
RVM pls.


Don't worry, this too shall pass.

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And how about you actually discuss the player instead of this crap posting.


RVM, settle down dude. You need to lighten up. I was just messing around. We have talked about Brown before, specifically about trading back up into round 1 to select him and alot of other topics as well. I think for the position there is value in round 3 that could fit what we need - just like Ry talked about. Ry summed up my thoughts. I would definitely prefer Lotulelei (healthy) or even Ansah (figuring out a way to get him on the field), Richardson, or even Floyd. It is all about positional value.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ryknowssd wrote:
One good reason he isn't worth #1? How about three?

DJ, Houston and Tamba.

We don't need a world beater at SILB. We need a gap filling hole plugger. Those can be found in free agency and in the middle rounds of the draft. Having a Patrick Willis/Ray Lewis type of prospect in the draft is the only way I could get behind taking an ILB in the top 5. So no. Sorry, can't board this train. If we trade down? Even then, meh....but I guess I could live with it in that case.

Why can't we be the 9ers though and have the best LB corp in the league?

Gap filling hole plugger just sounds so 80s.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rearviewmirror wrote:
nicfre2011 wrote:
Rumless wrote:
RVM pls.


Don't worry, this too shall pass.

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And how about you actually discuss the player instead of this crap posting.



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So if Brown does everything but rush the passer very well. Wouldn't that be exactly what you're describing? I love AB, and I commented to him the other day nothing would make me happier than him a Chief. But I don't see it happening.

If we truly go BPA, none of us may like the outcome, it could be a LT, it could be a WR...so yes, it COULD be a ILB.

I just think other needs might come in higher, that tie into positional value more. But any way you look at it, we could be taking a player at a position that either has NEVER gone first overall, or very rarely.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ryknowssd wrote:
We need a gap filling hole plugger.



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my question to you is, why do YOU feel the experts have him rated below other non pass rushing LB's?

Edit: Nevermind I guess size is what you mentioned.

How do you feel about him as our part time RB compliment to JC? He sounds so awesome maybe he could be a trendsetter of guys who play defense and also play part time offense. Fluid hips, great burst, 4.4 speed, great size and power for a RB...he might even be better than Bryce at RB. What do you think?

If he can do that, he's a top 10 pick...otherwise he's a DJ type that should go around 15.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really don't like the idea.

I really see his height as a negative. The 3-4 requires ILB to read the backfield quite heavily and I question his ability to do so. People talk about his "size" when its really just his height. He weighed 241 at the combine which is 15lbs heavier than Belcher for reference. Belcher even struggled due to his height at 6'2 and Brown is 6ft. Brown played further off the LOS than he would in a 3-4 base which usually staggers the WLB behind the SLB. This space between him and the line allowed him to diagnos and attack and that space will be taken away in the NFL. (Part of the space may be due to the spread's he usually faced but I stand by my assessment) He also lined up frequently outside the OT which allows productive sight lines.

He is a very instinctual LB who thrived in college. I doubt his convictions are so reliable at the next level. I feel like we see this often with collgeiately dominate defenders with questionable measurables.

He would be a better fit as an WILB and we already have the AFC best at that position. Brown could stay on the field for 3 play but I think we'd have to trade off some run support on the early downs. We need a Nico Johnson/Kevin Minter type in the later rounds I believe.

Lastly he is not the impact player that the first pick needs to be at 1. Couple picks few facks 6 TFL I believe is close. SILB is just not an impact position and I even question his ability to play it. There's a good chance he isn't even drafted in the first round. After the trade down that I believe we will bend over for I'd be fine with him, but at one I would be opposed.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really? I know a lot of people like him and he's a good player but he will never even be a part of the discussion for #1 overall pick. Only way he becomes a possibility is if we trade down.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never in 5 billion years would I draft Author Brown #1 overall. His ceiling is Jon Beason, a cover ILB that can make alot of tackles and cover alot of ground. We need a down hill big guy that can blow up the LOS and stop the run, this kinda guy we can find in the 3rd,4th, or even 5th round. Heck I think AJ Klein is a better LB'r than Brown.

Not worth #1 especially considering we have other needs and he isn't even close to BPA.

I would rather draft one of the top OG's or CB's than Brown.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres no chance in hell he goes #1. The biggest thing is that there are several LBs who are just more pro-ready.
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