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Rumless 
Joined: 01 Sep 2012 Posts: 1037 Location: Chiefs Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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RVM pls. _________________
| aceinthehouse wrote: | I personally do NOT think Lewis is the Greatest MLBer ever.
In fact, I'm not sure he's better than our very own London Fletcher. |
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nicfre2011 
Joined: 15 Mar 2011 Posts: 5303 Location: SC
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Don't worry, this too shall pass.
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Trent Baalke for 2013 NFL executive of the year. |
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Rearviewmirror 
 Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Posts: 17488 Location: Koch Arena. Ryknowssd makes BAD sigs
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| nicfre2011 wrote: |
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my love for Arthur Brown? not likely. I don't see why he isn't easily considered the best LB prospect since Willis. _________________
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ryknowssd 
Joined: 13 Jan 2007 Posts: 22062 Location: Awesomeville
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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One good reason he isn't worth #1? How about three?
DJ, Houston and Tamba.
We don't need a world beater at SILB. We need a gap filling hole plugger. Those can be found in free agency and in the middle rounds of the draft. Having a Patrick Willis/Ray Lewis type of prospect in the draft is the only way I could get behind taking an ILB in the top 5. So no. Sorry, can't board this train. If we trade down? Even then, meh....but I guess I could live with it in that case. _________________
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Rearviewmirror 
 Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Posts: 17488 Location: Koch Arena. Ryknowssd makes BAD sigs
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| nicfre2011 wrote: |
Don't worry, this too shall pass.
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And how about you actually discuss the player instead of this crap posting. _________________
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nicfre2011 
Joined: 15 Mar 2011 Posts: 5303 Location: SC
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Rearviewmirror wrote: | | nicfre2011 wrote: |
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And how about you actually discuss the player instead of this crap posting. |
RVM, settle down dude. You need to lighten up. I was just messing around. We have talked about Brown before, specifically about trading back up into round 1 to select him and alot of other topics as well. I think for the position there is value in round 3 that could fit what we need - just like Ry talked about. Ry summed up my thoughts. I would definitely prefer Lotulelei (healthy) or even Ansah (figuring out a way to get him on the field), Richardson, or even Floyd. It is all about positional value. _________________
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Chiefer 
Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Posts: 9903 Location: You ever been conscious in a coma?
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| ryknowssd wrote: | One good reason he isn't worth #1? How about three?
DJ, Houston and Tamba.
We don't need a world beater at SILB. We need a gap filling hole plugger. Those can be found in free agency and in the middle rounds of the draft. Having a Patrick Willis/Ray Lewis type of prospect in the draft is the only way I could get behind taking an ILB in the top 5. So no. Sorry, can't board this train. If we trade down? Even then, meh....but I guess I could live with it in that case. |
Why can't we be the 9ers though and have the best LB corp in the league?
Gap filling hole plugger just sounds so 80s. _________________
| Iggles wrote: | | Come on, man, these are the kinds of statements that make Chiefer look 100% right |
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Mikek163 
Joined: 24 Nov 2008 Posts: 4709
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Rearviewmirror wrote: | | nicfre2011 wrote: |
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And how about you actually discuss the player instead of this crap posting. |
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DT58_lives_on
Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 4951 Location: St. Cloud, MN
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | We need a gap filling hole plugger |
So if Brown does everything but rush the passer very well. Wouldn't that be exactly what you're describing? I love AB, and I commented to him the other day nothing would make me happier than him a Chief. But I don't see it happening.
If we truly go BPA, none of us may like the outcome, it could be a LT, it could be a WR...so yes, it COULD be a ILB.
I just think other needs might come in higher, that tie into positional value more. But any way you look at it, we could be taking a player at a position that either has NEVER gone first overall, or very rarely. _________________
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Mikek163 
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| ryknowssd wrote: | | We need a gap filling hole plugger. |
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ArrowheadRage58
Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Posts: 3493 Location: Hate for the Donkeys is at a mile high
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:10 am Post subject: |
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my question to you is, why do YOU feel the experts have him rated below other non pass rushing LB's?
Edit: Nevermind I guess size is what you mentioned.
How do you feel about him as our part time RB compliment to JC? He sounds so awesome maybe he could be a trendsetter of guys who play defense and also play part time offense. Fluid hips, great burst, 4.4 speed, great size and power for a RB...he might even be better than Bryce at RB. What do you think?
If he can do that, he's a top 10 pick...otherwise he's a DJ type that should go around 15. _________________
| fortdetroit wrote: | | I wonder if people realize that Matt Cassel's 2 best seasons of his career are probably better than anything Alex Smith has ever done. |
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wishbone20 
Joined: 21 Aug 2009 Posts: 140 Location: Springfield, Mo
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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I really don't like the idea.
I really see his height as a negative. The 3-4 requires ILB to read the backfield quite heavily and I question his ability to do so. People talk about his "size" when its really just his height. He weighed 241 at the combine which is 15lbs heavier than Belcher for reference. Belcher even struggled due to his height at 6'2 and Brown is 6ft. Brown played further off the LOS than he would in a 3-4 base which usually staggers the WLB behind the SLB. This space between him and the line allowed him to diagnos and attack and that space will be taken away in the NFL. (Part of the space may be due to the spread's he usually faced but I stand by my assessment) He also lined up frequently outside the OT which allows productive sight lines.
He is a very instinctual LB who thrived in college. I doubt his convictions are so reliable at the next level. I feel like we see this often with collgeiately dominate defenders with questionable measurables.
He would be a better fit as an WILB and we already have the AFC best at that position. Brown could stay on the field for 3 play but I think we'd have to trade off some run support on the early downs. We need a Nico Johnson/Kevin Minter type in the later rounds I believe.
Lastly he is not the impact player that the first pick needs to be at 1. Couple picks few facks 6 TFL I believe is close. SILB is just not an impact position and I even question his ability to play it. There's a good chance he isn't even drafted in the first round. After the trade down that I believe we will bend over for I'd be fine with him, but at one I would be opposed. _________________ An eloquent picture of Alex Smith chucking crows at Raiders and Donkey fans. |
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Diesel2692
Joined: 15 Mar 2009 Posts: 2275
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Really? I know a lot of people like him and he's a good player but he will never even be a part of the discussion for #1 overall pick. Only way he becomes a possibility is if we trade down. |
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bigballin
Joined: 05 Jan 2009 Posts: 1900 Location: Whiteman AFB
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Never in 5 billion years would I draft Author Brown #1 overall. His ceiling is Jon Beason, a cover ILB that can make alot of tackles and cover alot of ground. We need a down hill big guy that can blow up the LOS and stop the run, this kinda guy we can find in the 3rd,4th, or even 5th round. Heck I think AJ Klein is a better LB'r than Brown.
Not worth #1 especially considering we have other needs and he isn't even close to BPA.
I would rather draft one of the top OG's or CB's than Brown. |
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wwhickok 
Joined: 27 Nov 2012 Posts: 2279 Location: Williamsport, PA
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Theres no chance in hell he goes #1. The biggest thing is that there are several LBs who are just more pro-ready. |
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