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ryknowssd 
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:57 pm Post subject: HOLY LINEBACKERS, BATMAN!!!! |
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Okay, so with all the cap space we just burnt through today, it's reasonable to say Tyson Jackson and Matt Cassel are likely to be cut soon. So, that would leave us with Bailey, Poe, Powe, Toribio and that's basically it.
So...if TJax is cut....I was thinking....aaaaannnd....this gives us an opportunity to switch back to the 4-3 if we wanted to do so.
Would we? What would that involve? Who would move positions? Who would we draft?
Here's a quick idea of what we could do:
1st overall: Werner/Ansah
LE: Tamba
DT: Toribio/Powe
UT: Poe
RE: Ansah/Werner
LOLB: Houston
MLB: DJ
ROLB: ????
OR...
1st overall: (GASP!) Manti Te'o? I know, I know...just humor me...
LE: Houston
DT: Toribio/Powe
UT: Poe
RE: Tamba
LOLB: Studebaker
MLB: Te'o
ROLB: DJ
Just a thought. Random thought, at that. Is it a possibility? Would Richardson then be a candidate to pair next to Poe, put Houston & Tamba on either side and hope we can fill the need for OLBs in FA and the draft?
So many variables to consider that my brain's about to explode.
...aaaaaaaaaand go. _________________
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Chiefer 
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Sutton's a 34 guy though right? Even if we cut T-Jax it stands to reason that we'd stay in that scheme.
I don't see any way in hell Manti Te'O is picked 1st overall though. So there's that. Maybe he's there in the 3rd, is that your reasoning Ryk? _________________
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Rearviewmirror 
 Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Posts: 17595 Location: Koch Arena. Ryknowssd makes BAD sigs
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Teo has zero chance to get picked top 15. If we took him at 1 I'd puke. Arthur Brown is 3x the player he is.
Also if we were switching to a 4-3 you keep Houston at SLB and take Ziggy or Tank Carradine. Those are the 2 best DEs in the class. _________________
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ryknowssd 
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Chiefer wrote: | Sutton's a 34 guy though right? Even if we cut T-Jax it stands to reason that we'd stay in that scheme.
I don't see any way in hell Manti Te'O is picked 1st overall though. So there's that. Maybe he's there in the 3rd, is that your reasoning Ryk? |
Sutton uses a 3-4 base, but if he's anything like Rex, he'll be very versatile in the different fronts he lines up throughout every game. Rex has gone as far as to have all 11 players on defense in a 2 point stance prior to the snap. If that's the thought process he's bringing to town, I wouldn't rule out a guy like Werner if TJax is, in fact, cut.
As for Te'o? Meh. Personally, I'm not a fan of his at all. Never have been, never will be probably. He's generally considered to be at least a solid prospect, so feel free to substitute other names. I'm really just spitballing here.
If we cut TJax, we'll have lost both of our starting DEs from last year, so this is more about how we're either going to replace them or change schemes since we'll have some flexibility WHEN we replace them. _________________
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green24 
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| ryknowssd wrote: | | Chiefer wrote: | Sutton's a 34 guy though right? Even if we cut T-Jax it stands to reason that we'd stay in that scheme.
I don't see any way in hell Manti Te'O is picked 1st overall though. So there's that. Maybe he's there in the 3rd, is that your reasoning Ryk? |
Sutton uses a 3-4 base, but if he's anything like Rex, he'll be very versatile in the different fronts he lines up throughout every game. Rex has gone as far as to have all 11 players on defense in a 2 point stance prior to the snap. If that's the thought process he's bringing to town, I wouldn't rule out a guy like Werner if TJax is, in fact, cut.
As for Te'o? Meh. Personally, I'm not a fan of his at all. Never have been, never will be probably. He's generally considered to be at least a solid prospect, so feel free to substitute other names. I'm really just spitballing here.
If we cut TJax, we'll have lost both of our starting DEs from last year, so this is more about how we're either going to replace them or change schemes since we'll have some flexibility WHEN we replace them. |
Sutton was here long before Rex was. He was our DC under Eric Mangini. His strategy couldn't be more different from Rex's. He was an extremely conservative play caller as our DC. _________________
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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^^ that couldn't possibly be because Mangini came from the same 2 gap 3-4 as Crennel, now could it? _________________
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ryknowssd 
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| green24 wrote: | | Sutton was here long before Rex was. He was our DC under Eric Mangini. His strategy couldn't be more different from Rex's. He was an extremely conservative play caller as our DC. |
You'll be a huge help in this thread! Thanks for stopping by!
Did Sutton ever show scheme versatility? Was he solely a 2 gapping, 3-4 guy? Or did he have different wrinkles and schemes? Did he ever show any 4-3 looks? Veeeeeeeeerrry curious to read what you have to say. _________________
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EB29 
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Id rather see this look:
LE: Poe
DT: Toribio/Powe
RE: Ansah/Star
Thats a nasty base D right there with lots of potential nickel looks. Throw in a Ripoti Pitioua singing and a MLB in the 3/4th round depending on CB value at the time of the pick and I feel really good about the offseason. _________________
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ryknowssd 
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| EB29 wrote: | Id rather see this look:
LE: Poe
DT: Toribio/Powe
RE: Ansah/Star
Thats a nasty base D right there with lots of potential nickel looks. Throw in a Ripoti Pitioua singing and a MLB in the 3/4th round depending on CB value at the time of the pick and I feel really good about the offseason. |
That's what I'm talkin' 'bout! Poe as our Ngata LE and Ansah as our Justin Smith at RE? Hell yeah. I can dig it. _________________
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| ryknowssd wrote: | You'll be a huge help in this thread! Thanks for stopping by!
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Why do you insist on condescending anyone you don't know who disagrees with you? He simply disagreed and pointed out facts. All this will do is cause him to respond negatively to anything you say. _________________
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| bigschmadt00 wrote: | | ryknowssd wrote: | You'll be a huge help in this thread! Thanks for stopping by!
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Why do you insist on condescending anyone you don't know who disagrees with you? He simply disagreed and pointed out facts. All this will do is cause him to respond negatively to anything you say. |
I'm pretty sure Ryk was being completely serious _________________
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ryknowssd 
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| bigschmadt00 wrote: | | ryknowssd wrote: | You'll be a huge help in this thread! Thanks for stopping by!
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Why do you insist on condescending anyone you don't know who disagrees with you? He simply disagreed and pointed out facts. All this will do is cause him to respond negatively to anything you say. |
Why do you insist on assuming I was being condescending?
That wasn't sarcasm. It was a genuine statement and if you would've actually read the rest of my post, you would've seen that I asked him several questions about Sutton's history with the Jets. If you want me to get condescending, I can, Mr. Mod.  _________________
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green24 
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| ryknowssd wrote: | | green24 wrote: | | Sutton was here long before Rex was. He was our DC under Eric Mangini. His strategy couldn't be more different from Rex's. He was an extremely conservative play caller as our DC. |
You'll be a huge help in this thread! Thanks for stopping by!
Did Sutton ever show scheme versatility? Was he solely a 2 gapping, 3-4 guy? Or did he have different wrinkles and schemes? Did he ever show any 4-3 looks? Veeeeeeeeerrry curious to read what you have to say. |
He wasn't awfully creative. Guys like Jonathan Vilma had no use at all in Sutton's defense. He has coached in a 4-3 in the past, but he didn't really mix it in that much with the Jets.
It's possible that some Rex has rubbed off on him. _________________
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ryknowssd 
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| green24 wrote: | He wasn't awfully creative. Guys like Jonathan Vilma had no use at all in Sutton's defense. He has coached in a 4-3 in the past, but he didn't really mix it in that much with the Jets.
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Ah, gotcha. I'm still confused as to why Vilma didn't work in that defense. Vilma has never been great at shedding blocks, but it was extreme for you guys. I completely forgot about that, actually.
Rex runs more of a 1 gap scheme, not a 2 gap, right? ...Or am I completely wrong about that? _________________
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green24 
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| ryknowssd wrote: | | green24 wrote: | He wasn't awfully creative. Guys like Jonathan Vilma had no use at all in Sutton's defense. He has coached in a 4-3 in the past, but he didn't really mix it in that much with the Jets.
It's possible that some Rex has rubbed off on him. |
Ah, gotcha. I'm still confused as to why Vilma didn't work in that defense. Vilma has never been great at shedding blocks, but it was extreme for you guys. I completely forgot about that, actually.
Rex runs more of a 1 gap scheme, not a 2 gap, right? ...Or am I completely wrong about that? |
Rex runs everything.
1-gap, 2-gap, 3-4, 4-3, 4-6 _________________
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