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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
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apollo14000 wrote:
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If Geno is there you jump all over him, and he starts week one.


Agreed. It makes the rest of the draft so much simpler then too having taken care of QB. I'll be breathing a huge sigh of relief if we pick up Geno.


So pick up Kolb's bonus, draft Geno then cut Kolb?


It is a tough spot to be in, but if they pick up a veteran FA they may cut Kolb; The bonus is not a huge hinderance either. Only 2M this year as opposed to 7M last.

I only say you start him because Keim stated that if we take a guy in the top 10 we want immediate impact.

We cannot afford to pass on Geno because he is not "perfect". Drafting scared kills teams.


Keim/BA don't seem like the scared type, he wanted AP. Graves/Whiz not as much.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Report: Raiders interested in Geno Smith

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that there are rumors of the teamís interest in Smith, who by virtue of the fact that he was the fastest quarterback in Indy makes him an obvious candidate to play for the Raiders.

If the Raiders take him, Carson Palmer likely would be cut. And if Terrelle Pryor remains as the backup, the Raiders would become the first team to go two deep with mobile quarterbacks ó which would allow them to run the same offense with either guy.


1. Al Davis is back from the dead
2. Kick the tires on CP?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Report: Raiders interested in Geno Smitm

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that there are rumors of the teamís interest in Smith, who by virtue of the fact that he was the fastest quarterback in Indy makes him an obvious candidate to play for the Raiders.

If the Raiders take him, Carson Palmer likely would be cut. And if Terrelle Pryor remains as the backup, the Raiders would become the first team to go two deep with mobile quarterbacks ó which would allow them to run the same offense with either guy.


1. Al Davis is back from the dead
2. Kick the tires on CP?


Not completely illogical but that sounds like smokescreen to me because it sounds like the rumor is simply based off the bolded statement.

Also I looked into it little further and cutting Palmer would apparently leave them on the hook for a ton of dead money.
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Geno would be a real interesting fit for this team. As good as Austin and Bailey were, they're very small WRs that don't have near Fitz's catch radius, who has enough range and vertical to catch even some of the overthrows Smith will have until he refines his footwork.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a fairly good point.

More size, more reach, ala ESPN sport science.

We have some biggins at WR, Fitz and Flyod. Would love us to replace Doucet with someone with talent.
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That is a fairly good point.

More size, more reach, ala ESPN sport science.

We have some biggins at WR, Fitz and Flyod. Would love us to replace Doucet with someone with talent.


Would love to replace Doucet with a TE.
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Eiffert or Ertz would be lovely.

Doubt we head down that path in the 2nd however.

If we traded back a ways in the first maybe.
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i hope he's there, but i don't really see him getting past both oakland and jacksonville. geno would do us wonders, though.
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i hope he's there, but i don't really see him getting past both oakland and jacksonville. geno would do us wonders, though.


I think if he he gets past JAX, but OAK worries me.
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i hope he's there, but i don't really see him getting past both oakland and jacksonville. geno would do us wonders, though.


I think if he he gets past JAX, but OAK worries me.


He'll fall to #7 unless someone behind us trades up. He's a reach for Jacksonville and one of their coaches said he'd be the best QB in this draft. Oakland has Pryor.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DirtyDez wrote:
AZPSquared wrote:
Arizona Tom wrote:
i hope he's there, but i don't really see him getting past both oakland and jacksonville. geno would do us wonders, though.


I think if he he gets past JAX, but OAK worries me.


He'll fall to #7 unless someone behind us trades up. He's a reach for Jacksonville and one of their coaches said he'd be the best QB in this draft. Oakland has Pryor.


What is your point on Pryor?
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love2theOLINE wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
AZPSquared wrote:
Arizona Tom wrote:
i hope he's there, but i don't really see him getting past both oakland and jacksonville. geno would do us wonders, though.


I think if he he gets past JAX, but OAK worries me.


He'll fall to #7 unless someone behind us trades up. He's a reach for Jacksonville and one of their coaches said he'd be the best QB in this draft. Oakland has Pryor.


What is your point on Pryor?


I don't understand that either. I think he means Pryor is supposed to get his shot, but I just don't see it.

Oakland either restructures Palmer if he is open to it or they release him and attempt to nab Geno at #3. That's the only scenario I see really.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you even look in the Raiders forum they believe that Pryor is being groomed to be the starting QB. I don't think the Raiders are going to take him
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love2theOLINE wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
AZPSquared wrote:
Arizona Tom wrote:
i hope he's there, but i don't really see him getting past both oakland and jacksonville. geno would do us wonders, though.


I think if he he gets past JAX, but OAK worries me.


He'll fall to #7 unless someone behind us trades up. He's a reach for Jacksonville and one of their coaches said he'd be the best QB in this draft. Oakland has Pryor.


What is your point on Pryor?


He's their QBOTF.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DirtyDez wrote:
love2theOLINE wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
AZPSquared wrote:
Arizona Tom wrote:
i hope he's there, but i don't really see him getting past both oakland and jacksonville. geno would do us wonders, though.


I think if he he gets past JAX, but OAK worries me.


He'll fall to #7 unless someone behind us trades up. He's a reach for Jacksonville and one of their coaches said he'd be the best QB in this draft. Oakland has Pryor.


What is your point on Pryor?


He's their QBOTF.


Really?!?!?!?!?!?!

http://www.nfl.com/player/terrellepryor/2531332/profile
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