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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the Fluker pick but I'd prefer Elam.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may or may not have gotten a stiffy in seeing Richardson and Lacy in 1 and 2 for us. Exactly what we need.

Would not mind OLB either, but a stout 5-tech will be great for our DL depth. However, I WOULD prefer to move down from 26 and nab an Arthur Brown/Kevin Minter/Sylvester Williams in the early second round and then pick up a third along the way.

Edit: Why is FF more accurate/realistic/practical than CBS, ESPN and NFL.com? Jeesh. Good stuff guys!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rather have the pass rusher like Moore in the first round than Vacarro since safety is pretty deep this year. They can look at that position in another round. Hankins is a nice selection in the second even though I might go with Lacy there.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrdv1 wrote:
I can almost Gaurentee the giants won't take a LB in round one. If they do, watch out, cause that guy will be a stud. The gaints rarely miss on first rounders, although im starting to wonder about prince.


Prince played like a 1st rounder last year especially given the way Perry Fewell used him.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ark23 wrote:
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I really doubt Carradine is a Top 20 pick after his injury - prior to, absolutely - now I think he's a mid 2nd rounder. A guy Dallas would love but won't spend a 1st on (see Sean Lee, Bruce Carter, etc)

Carradine is going to be working out before the draft so I think those injury concerns have been reduced significantly. Yes, it may knock him down some and may lead to teams being a little more hesitant to take him but it certainly wouldn't knock him down an entire round.

If you cite that as rationale for dropping Carradine a full round why wouldn't Dee Milliner or Dion Jordan's torn labrum knock them down in value?


Because a torn labrum in your shoulder is nothing like a torn ACL
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right with you Central. If the first two rounds fell like that Richardson and then Lacy, I would be pretty satisfied. I agree though in trading down, but I have seen Richardson as high as #1 overall, would be awesome to add a player like that to the mix.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaddHatter wrote:
I really doubt Carradine is a Top 20 pick after his injury - prior to, absolutely - now I think he's a mid 2nd rounder. A guy Dallas would love but won't spend a 1st on (see Sean Lee, Bruce Carter, etc)


Especially with Sheldon Richardson still on the board.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ark23 wrote:
MaddHatter wrote:
I really doubt Carradine is a Top 20 pick after his injury - prior to, absolutely - now I think he's a mid 2nd rounder. A guy Dallas would love but won't spend a 1st on (see Sean Lee, Bruce Carter, etc)

Carradine is going to be working out before the draft so I think those injury concerns have been reduced significantly. Yes, it may knock him down some and may lead to teams being a little more hesitant to take him but it certainly wouldn't knock him down an entire round.

If you cite that as rationale for dropping Carradine a full round why wouldn't Dee Milliner or Dion Jordan's torn labrum knock them down in value?


You are also missing the point that Sheldon Richardson is still on the board. That is the direction legitimate mock drafts have the Cowboys going.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaddHatter wrote:
ark23 wrote:
MaddHatter wrote:
I really doubt Carradine is a Top 20 pick after his injury - prior to, absolutely - now I think he's a mid 2nd rounder. A guy Dallas would love but won't spend a 1st on (see Sean Lee, Bruce Carter, etc)

Carradine is going to be working out before the draft so I think those injury concerns have been reduced significantly. Yes, it may knock him down some and may lead to teams being a little more hesitant to take him but it certainly wouldn't knock him down an entire round.

If you cite that as rationale for dropping Carradine a full round why wouldn't Dee Milliner or Dion Jordan's torn labrum knock them down in value?


Because a torn labrum in your shoulder is nothing like a torn ACL

No question, but Carradine is working out before the draft even begins - you will get to see how well he recovered. Not to mention now more and more a torn ACL is becoming an injury that players are able to rehab from more quickly. Carradine coming back from his torn ACL that quickly and doing a full workout should largely answer the questions about how he will recover from his injury. Yet Milliner and Jordan won't work out post-injury so while recoveries from a torn labrum is more projectable than a torn ACL there is still a measure of uncertainty.

Regardless I don't think that if Carradine goes in the second round it's because of his torn ACL. If he was a top twenty prospect before his injury I can't see teams downgrading him a full round especially considering he is working out before the draft.
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3 1 Kansas City Chiefs WR Stedman Bailey West Virginia 5'10-1/4" 193
3 2 Jacksonville Jaguars LB DeVonte Holloman South Carolina 6'1-3/8" 243
3 3 Detroit Lions WR Kenny Stills Oklahoma 6'0-1/2" 194
3 4 Oakland Raiders QB Mike Glennon North Carolina State 6'7-1/8" 225
3 5 Philadelphia Eagles CB Jordan Poyer Oregon State 5'11-7/8 191
3 6 Cleveland Browns QB Matthew Barkley USC 6'2-1/2" 227
3 7 Arizona Cardinals OLB Corey Lemonier Auburn 6'3-3/8" 255
3 8 Tennessee Titans TE Gavin Escobar San Diego State 6'5-7/8" 254
3 9 Buffalo Bills QB Ryan Nassib Syracuse 6'2-1/8" 227
3 10 New York Jets WR Ryan Swope Texas A&M 6'0-1/8" 205
3 11 Tampa Bay Buccaneers DE Sam Montgomery Louisiana State 6'3-1/4" 262
3 12 San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina) CB Robert Alford Southeastern Louisiana 5'10-1/8" 188
3 13 New Orleans Saints NT Brandon Williams Missouri Southern 6'1-1/4" 335
3 14 San Diego Chargers OT Kyle Long Oregon 6'6-1/8" 313
3 15 Miami Dolphins S Phillip Thomas Fresno State 6'0-1/2" 208
3 16 St. Louis Rams S Shamarko Thomas Syracuse 5'8-7/8" 213
3 17 Pittsburgh Steelers WR Markus Wheaton Oregon State 5'11" 189
3 18 Dallas Cowboys WR Da'Rick Rodgers Tennessee Tech 6'2-1/2" 217
3 19 New York Giants DT Bennie Logan LSU 6'2" 309
3 20 Miami Dolphins (from Chicago) DE Margus Hunt Southern Methodist 6'8-1/8" 277
3 21 Minnesota Vikings DE William Gholston Michigan State 6'6-1/4" 281
3 22 Cincinnati Bengals DE Brandon Jenkins Florida State 6'2-1/2" 251
3 23 Washington Redskins OG Alvin Bailey Arkansas 6'3-1/8" 312
3 24 Indianapolis Colts OG Terron Armstead Arkansas Pine Bluff 6'4-3/8" 306
3 25 Seattle Seahawks LEO Quanterus Smith Western Kentucky 6'5" 250
3 26 St Louis Rams (From Green Bay) S Shawn Williams Georgia 5'11-7/8" 213
3 27 Houston Texans QB E.J. Manuel Florida State 6'4-5/8" 237
3 28 Denver Broncos ILB A.J. Klein Iowa State 6'1-1/4" 250
3 29 New England Patriots OT Justin Pugh Syracuse 6'4-1/2" 307
3 30 Atlanta Falcons TE Vance McDonald Rice 6'4-1/8" 267
3 31 San Francisco 49ers S T.J. McDonald Southern Cal 6'2-1/2" 219
3 32 Baltimore Ravens OG David Quessenberry San Jose State 6'4-7/8" 302
3 33 Houston Texans (Compensatory) OLB Cornelius Washington Georgia 6'4" 265
3 34 Kansas City Chiefs (Compensatory) RB Stepfan Taylor Stanford 5'9-1/8" 214
3 35 Tennessee Titans (Compensatory) CB Dwayne Gratz Connecticut 5'11-1/8" 201
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only pick I like for the Cowboys is Frederick
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Not a fan of Escobar because we don't have a need at TE. Cook will be back and so will the rest of our TE's.
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Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
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Laughing What? Cyprien? Wtf?
Every safety in the draft except Vaccaro available and we go with a 3rd round player? Did a Patriots fan pick for us? Wait, GoldFishWars makes better picks than that!


I didn't make that selection and I'm not too keen on any safety going first round this year (because of the insane depth and IMO a lack of a clearcut #1... I have Vacarro rated as the #4 or #5 safety), but Cyprien is a damn good player.


Really? Why?
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Only real complaint I have is the Hopkins pick and mind you this is coming from a Hopkins supporter. I'm just of the belief that unless we see WR's getting cleaved from the roster (and Meachem's contract makes him pretty difficult to outright release), the position isn't going to be a high priority this offseason. I get that everyone feels this need to "replace" Vincent Jackson, but while I like Hopkins when I look at him I see a prospect whose strengths are those of two guys we already have on the roster (Vincent Brown and Malcom Floyd).

Now, our front office has intimated that revamping the OL is going to be a heavy priority this offseason, and quite possibly at the expense of other positions. That to me reads that drafting early at what amount to luxury positions for us (like WR and possibly RB) is likely out. That could just as easily mean CB (though not likely given that we'll go into the offseason with 3 on the roster - counting Johnny Patrick who we picked up off waivers from the Saints) - and the expectation is that neither Cason or Jammer will be back.

By going off of the stated objective of our GM "finding the best combination of value meeting need at wherever we pick", I look at the Hopkins pick and can't help but think that perhaps Jamar Taylor (pretty ideal fit for our off-man, Cover-1 heavy scheme), Jamie Collins (less on value and more on the fact that we have three OLB's hitting FA, with at best Barnes expected back), Jordan Poyer (again, very good scheme fit), and possibly even Amerson (could be a great scheme fit, really depends on how Telesco had him graded prior - could have more value to us as in an off-man scheme he stands the chance to play CB) might all match up better.
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