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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Shonn Greene 2012 Stats: 276 Attempts, 1,063 yrds, 8TD's, 3.9 average

Michael Turner 2012 Stats: 222 Attempts, 800 yards, 10 TD's, 3.6 average


By looking at these stats, Green is not an upgrade. Green was basically the entire offense last year and he barely broke a 1,000 yard season. He had a below average Oline, but the Falcons don't have the best running Oline either. Green isn't the best catching RB either. He doesnt have breakaway speed and isn't that great at pass protection. I just don't see how he is an upgrade over Turner. I hope the Broncos take him because he wouldnt help us much.

How was he "the whole offense" when he started like half the games, if that?

It's an upgrade, but not a huge one. I wouldn't want him starting...


Did you watch the Jets passing game last year??? He def was their main offensive weapon regardless of how many games he played.

If he cant start then why would you want him??? We already have RB's that have back up roles. We need a starter. And with the screen game we have adopted, we need a RB that can catch the ball in space and run upfield. Green doesn't have that kind of talent. He is a one trick pony and that trick is average.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It was something speculated and made up by ESPN NY. Neither his agent nor the Falcons have shown any interest in this pairing.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Shonn Greene 2012 Stats: 276 Attempts, 1,063 yrds, 8TD's, 3.9 average

Michael Turner 2012 Stats: 222 Attempts, 800 yards, 10 TD's, 3.6 average


By looking at these stats, Green is not an upgrade. Green was basically the entire offense last year and he barely broke a 1,000 yard season. He had a below average Oline, but the Falcons don't have the best running Oline either. Green isn't the best catching RB either. He doesnt have breakaway speed and isn't that great at pass protection. I just don't see how he is an upgrade over Turner. I hope the Broncos take him because he wouldnt help us much.

How was he "the whole offense" when he started like half the games, if that?

It's an upgrade, but not a huge one. I wouldn't want him starting...


Did you watch the Jets passing game last year??? He def was their main offensive weapon regardless of how many games he played.

If he cant start then why would you want him??? We already have RB's that have back up roles. We need a starter. And with the screen game we have adopted, we need a RB that can catch the ball in space and run upfield. Green doesn't have that kind of talent. He is a one trick pony and that trick is average.

He's decent. We keep 4 RBs on roster, so you're saying you'd rather have someone like Antone Smith who never got more than a few carries in a game, or a guy like Green who has had 200 yard games and many if touchdowns and is still somewhat young?

I'm not saying get him and bench him, but I don't want to get him and give him 30 carries a game.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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adam9 wrote:
tech2186 wrote:
Shonn Greene 2012 Stats: 276 Attempts, 1,063 yrds, 8TD's, 3.9 average

Michael Turner 2012 Stats: 222 Attempts, 800 yards, 10 TD's, 3.6 average


By looking at these stats, Green is not an upgrade. Green was basically the entire offense last year and he barely broke a 1,000 yard season. He had a below average Oline, but the Falcons don't have the best running Oline either. Green isn't the best catching RB either. He doesnt have breakaway speed and isn't that great at pass protection. I just don't see how he is an upgrade over Turner. I hope the Broncos take him because he wouldnt help us much.

How was he "the whole offense" when he started like half the games, if that?

It's an upgrade, but not a huge one. I wouldn't want him starting...


Did you watch the Jets passing game last year??? He def was their main offensive weapon regardless of how many games he played.

If he cant start then why would you want him??? We already have RB's that have back up roles. We need a starter. And with the screen game we have adopted, we need a RB that can catch the ball in space and run upfield. Green doesn't have that kind of talent. He is a one trick pony and that trick is average.

He's decent. We keep 4 RBs on roster, so you're saying you'd rather have someone like Antone Smith who never got more than a few carries in a game, or a guy like Green who has had 200 yard games and many if touchdowns and is still somewhat young?

I'm not saying get him and bench him, but I don't want to get him and give him 30 carries a game.


I don't know where you are getting the notion that I want Antone Smith starting or that starting Smith would be an option. The draft should be the only option for a RB this offseason IMO. Gillislee, S. Taylor, J.Cooper, L Bell are all RB's who can be taken in rounds 3-5 or even later. I have faith that any one of those backs can contribute better than Green can for our team. Barring injury, each of those backs have their own dynamic talents and they all can catch the football and either make people miss or run through defenders. That is something Green or "Smith" can't do.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might not have read my posts. I said I personally want a 3-4 back rotation as I don't see us getting a "main" back this offseason. That being said I don't want Snith being our 3rd or 4th guy. Even if we get Shonn, I want a 4th RB. I say whoever is playing well, play them. Don't have a "starter" that you have to rush 25 times.

JMO, though. I honestly don't care whether we get/don't get him.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You might not have read my posts. I said I personally want a 3-4 back rotation as I don't see us getting a "main" back this offseason. That being said I don't want Snith being our 3rd or 4th guy. Even if we get Shonn, I want a 4th RB. I say whoever is playing well, play them. Don't have a "starter" that you have to rush 25 times.

JMO, though. I honestly don't care whether we get/don't get him.


I read you earlier posts. I'm for a 3 RB rotation but why not supplement that rotation with a guy who is younger and has more upside than Greene?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never said that I personally want him on the Falcons but it is possible, I'd much rather take a chance on Knile Davis
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That Jets offense was awful.


Greene isn't bad. He wasn't AP to the team but he has a motor that won't stop.

He hits the hole alot faster than Turner.

Get him in here.

We're a running game away from pure domination on offense.

Grab a rookie RB as well. Maybe a 1st, 2nd or 3rd rounder.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That Jets offense was awful.


Greene isn't bad. He wasn't AP to the team but he has a motor that won't stop.

He hits the hole alot faster than Turner.

Get him in here.

We're a running game away from pure domination on offense.

Grab a rookie RB as well. Maybe a 1st, 2nd or 3rd rounder.

My thoughts exactly.
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No thanks. We have Quizz and Snelling. Bring in a young guy from the draft to be our third back.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No thanks. We have Quizz and Snelling. Bring in a young guy from the draft to be our third back.


agreed
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ESPN would NEVER dare to make up a story
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not.


VERY sarcastic... ESPN is purely entertainment and has NOTHING to do with actual sports reporting
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ESPN would NEVER dare to make up a story
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not.


VERY sarcastic... ESPN is purely entertainment and has NOTHING to do with actual sports reporting
lol good.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No thanks. We have Quizz and Snelling. Bring in a young guy from the draft to be our third back.

We have kept 4 RBs since the Smith staff has came in. Move Snelling/Green to a "big back" role and Snelling is a backup FB too, draft a guy and have him split time with whoever the "hot back" at the time is.

Idk its just a thought. Like I said I really dgaf if we sign him or not..
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adam9 wrote:
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No thanks. We have Quizz and Snelling. Bring in a young guy from the draft to be our third back.

We have kept 4 RBs since the Smith staff has came in. Move Snelling/Green to a "big back" role and Snelling is a backup FB too, draft a guy and have him split time with whoever the "hot back" at the time is.

Idk its just a thought. Like I said I really dgaf if we sign him or not..


Apparently there is news that have the Falcons and Steven Jackson talking as well. Who knows what we are going to do. I would rather have Jackson over Green tho.
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