Trading completely out of the 1st

CT Cowboy Fan · Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 728 Location: Connecticut

I was having a conversation with a buddy of mine yesterday an he asked. Lets say we're still sitting at 18, or even traded back and have an early 20's pick. A top 5 QB needy team calls because one of the QBs fell. Would you trade completely out of the 1st round to acquire a 2nd this year and an extra 1st in the Clowney, I mean 2014 draft.
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Rtnldave · Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 2802

Love the thinking on this one! with two 2nd's and two 3rd's we could draft for the trenches and get some quality players and still have ammo for next year to do as we please.

Problem, after reading this I do not think the Cowboys front office (because I cannot write the name of he who shall not be mentioned as it offends certain peoples feelings) will entertain the idea of using two 1st rounders or any combination of draft picks to go after a QB. They see Romo as the next 4 to 5 years.

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/02/20/13/Cowboys-open-contract-talks-with-Romo-/msn_landing.html?blockID=867261&feedID=3742

But again, I love the idea, unless there is a player at 20 that we simply cannot pass on:

1. Star L
2. C. Warmack
3. L Joeckel
4. J. Jones

I rather doubt it.

WizardHawk · Joined: 31 Jan 2009 Posts: 9057 Location: Hawkeye State

I'd do it in a heart beat. Not simply, because of the Clowney sweepstakes or the depth available in the top half of this year's draft, simply because I'm a believer in draft flexibility and acquiring additional picks.
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Northland · Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 3782 Location: Ajax, Ontario

Couple of options here. If Warmack, Cooper, Floyd, or Richardson look like they will be available at 18 I might be tempted to stay put, or trade down a few spots.

Option two says trade down anyway. In this draft is there really that much of a dropoff between the players who will be picked at 18 vs. 28, or 38? I'm not sure. If we could acquire additional picks we could still address the trenches this year, and get that extra first next year. For a team with multiple needs this may be too good to pass up.
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matt79511 · Joined: 10 Jul 2011 Posts: 3278

I'd definitely be down with acquiring a 2014 first, especially from a team with a mediocre-to-bad 2013 outlook. Easier said than done, though.
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GeneralDissaray · Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 5135

Deal with Devil.

DAL Trades 1.18(900) to
PHI for 2.3(550), 4.4(100), and 1st in 2014.
Chip Kelly wants Geno Smith, but 1.4 is too high.

2013 Picks After Trade
2.3(PHI)
2.15
3.18
4.4(PHI)
4.17
5.18
6.17

We could trade back into the first:
DAL Trades 2.3(550)from PHI + 4.4(100)from PHI
to NE for 1.29(640)
NE is short on picks, only 5 total, and they love making hay in the 2nd-4th rounds.

Picks after trade back into the 1st:
1.29(NE)Jonathan Cooper, G/C, North Carolina
2.15----Jonathan Cyprien, SS, Florida International
3.18----Brandon Williams, DT, Miss South St
4.17----Chris Faulk, OT, LSU
5.18----Matt Scott, QB, Arizona
6.17----Aaron Mellette, WR, Elon

We'd still have an extra 1st in 2014.

buckwild · Joined: 25 Jan 2011 Posts: 1756 Location: Ft Worth, Tx

Add a 2nd or 3rd in 2014 to NE. BB doesn't trade out of the 1st unless you over pay him. That's why they seen to almost always have 2 1st round picks. Cyprien in the 2nd seems a little high, and I hope they go OL and DL in the 1st 2 rounds.
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TVScout · Joined: 05 May 2009 Posts: 1512

CT you beat me to the punch! I was going to ask this question so absolutely yes.