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3rivers


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:28 pm    Post subject: Adams comments Reply with quote

He had comments about being pro bowl LT. With a new coach, what do you think? The injury bug had an influence on him last year, but what do the experts here think ?

Don't say 77 is the LT either, or post will be ignored. If I see 77 at LT and 74 at RT, I quit watching.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Adams comments Reply with quote

3rivers wrote:
He had comments about being pro bowl LT. With a new coach, what do you think? The injury bug had an influence on him last year, but what do the experts here think ?

Don't say 77 is the LT either, or post will be ignored. If I see 77 at LT and 74 at RT, I quit watching.


Seriously??
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Adams comments Reply with quote

3rivers wrote:
He had comments about being pro bowl LT. With a new coach, what do you think? The injury bug had an influence on him last year, but what do the experts here think ?

Don't say 77 is the LT either, or post will be ignored. If I see 77 at LT and 74 at RT, I quit watching.


Ignorance seems to be a theme with you.

Gilbert at LT is a very strong possibility, regardless of whether you like it or not. I dont like it, but its possible.

Personally, there isnt a single player on this team I feel comfortable putting at LT. Unless we retain Starks, but he isnt a good fit for the ZBS.

Then again, neither are half our our OLineman. Adams, Pouncey and DeCastro are the only players I like for it.

Ideally, we somehow get a solid LT for the ZBS, put Adams at RT, and put Gilbert at RG or on the bench (where he likely belongs).

Realistically...our OTs will be Adams and Gilbert. Id prefer Adams at LT, but it could happen either way.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you saying a player with poor footwork, balance, and slow at getting out of his stance should not be an LT?? Too bad the Steelers don't think so. Then again, 3Rivers how can you not withhold from watching Gilbert and Adams LT and RT respectively but can withstand watching Field General.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe Gilbert has the ability to be a solid LT...his issues are technique related IMO.

Of course I might be the only one who thinks this Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlanFanecaFan wrote:
I believe Gilbert has the ability to be a solid LT...his issues are technique related IMO.

Of course I might be the only one who thinks this Laughing


You are not alone.

Him tearing up DeCastro, Johnson, and Pouncey pissed me off for sure tho.

I don't think there is any question he is the starting LT going into camp. His job to lose and you know how that goes with this coaching staff...it's his job barring injury.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

treat88 wrote:
AlanFanecaFan wrote:
I believe Gilbert has the ability to be a solid LT...his issues are technique related IMO.

Of course I might be the only one who thinks this Laughing


You are not alone.

Him tearing up DeCastro, Johnson, and Pouncey pissed me off for sure tho.

I don't think there is any question he is the starting LT going into camp. His job to lose and you know how that goes with this coaching staff...it's his job barring injury.


I agree it's frustrating but I think it has a negative perception of the player he was his rookie year.

My biggest concern with him is the nagging injury/does he use the men or the womens room thing going on???...he has to toughen up.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/18/mike-adams-sees-himself-becoming-an-all-pro-tackle/

Adams says his goal is to be a Pro bowl caliber player. If you read the article he said it should be every players goal.

If I wasn't posting from my phone I would quote the article.

I agree that should be his goal. He obviously wants to be the best player he could be.

If Gilbert works on his balance and gets a mean streak I think he could be effective as a left tackle.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:51 am    Post subject: Re: Adams comments Reply with quote

FourThreeMafia wrote:
3rivers wrote:
He had comments about being pro bowl LT. With a new coach, what do you think? The injury bug had an influence on him last year, but what do the experts here think ?

Don't say 77 is the LT either, or post will be ignored. If I see 77 at LT and 74 at RT, I quit watching.


Ignorance seems to be a theme with you.

Gilbert at LT is a very strong possibility, regardless of whether you like it or not. I dont like it, but its possible.

Personally, there isnt a single player on this team I feel comfortable putting at LT. Unless we retain Starks, but he isnt a good fit for the ZBS.

Then again, neither are half our our OLineman. Adams, Pouncey and DeCastro are the only players I like for it.

Ideally, we somehow get a solid LT for the ZBS, put Adams at RT, and put Gilbert at RG or on the bench (where he likely belongs).

Realistically...our OTs will be Adams and Gilbert. Id prefer Adams at LT, but it could happen either way.


You don't like Foster at OG? I'm assuming you forgot about him. Foster would be much better in a ZBS.

The move just makes me want Eric Fisher even more in the first round. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:56 am    Post subject: Re: Adams comments Reply with quote

steelcurtain29 wrote:
FourThreeMafia wrote:
3rivers wrote:
He had comments about being pro bowl LT. With a new coach, what do you think? The injury bug had an influence on him last year, but what do the experts here think ?

Don't say 77 is the LT either, or post will be ignored. If I see 77 at LT and 74 at RT, I quit watching.


Ignorance seems to be a theme with you.

Gilbert at LT is a very strong possibility, regardless of whether you like it or not. I dont like it, but its possible.

Personally, there isnt a single player on this team I feel comfortable putting at LT. Unless we retain Starks, but he isnt a good fit for the ZBS.

Then again, neither are half our our OLineman. Adams, Pouncey and DeCastro are the only players I like for it.

Ideally, we somehow get a solid LT for the ZBS, put Adams at RT, and put Gilbert at RG or on the bench (where he likely belongs).

Realistically...our OTs will be Adams and Gilbert. Id prefer Adams at LT, but it could happen either way.


You don't like Foster at OG? I'm assuming you forgot about him. Foster would be much better in a ZBS.

The move just makes me want Eric Fisher even more in the first round. Sad


I don't think Foster excels in a ZBS either. He needs to be in a PBS. I would love Eric Fisher but there is no way he gets past the Cardinals or Chargers.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if Colon didn't get paid as much as he does, and didn't commit as many penalties, he'd be Ramon Foster. Neither are suited for a ZBS.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: Adams comments Reply with quote

steelcurtain29 wrote:
FourThreeMafia wrote:
3rivers wrote:
He had comments about being pro bowl LT. With a new coach, what do you think? The injury bug had an influence on him last year, but what do the experts here think ?

Don't say 77 is the LT either, or post will be ignored. If I see 77 at LT and 74 at RT, I quit watching.


Ignorance seems to be a theme with you.

Gilbert at LT is a very strong possibility, regardless of whether you like it or not. I dont like it, but its possible.

Personally, there isnt a single player on this team I feel comfortable putting at LT. Unless we retain Starks, but he isnt a good fit for the ZBS.

Then again, neither are half our our OLineman. Adams, Pouncey and DeCastro are the only players I like for it.

Ideally, we somehow get a solid LT for the ZBS, put Adams at RT, and put Gilbert at RG or on the bench (where he likely belongs).

Realistically...our OTs will be Adams and Gilbert. Id prefer Adams at LT, but it could happen either way.


You don't like Foster at OG? I'm assuming you forgot about him. Foster would be much better in a ZBS.

The move just makes me want Eric Fisher even more in the first round. Sad


No, I didnt forget Foster. He has had his chance and is too inconsistent...and no, he doesnt fit the ZBS well at all.

If we keep him on, so be it if its cheap, but there is no reason to think he will be a long term starter for us.

Legursky is a better fit for the ZBS than Foster, and I dont want him starting either.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlanFanecaFan wrote:
I believe Gilbert has the ability to be a solid LT...his issues are technique related IMO.

Of course I might be the only one who thinks this Laughing


Footwork and balance are only partly technique related. Alot of time, those things arent entirely correctable, so its personal issue as well.

Not sure how anyone can say he could be a solid LT considering he hasnt even really proven he can be a solid RT. Yeah, yeah....his rookie year he was decent, but he hasnt progressed at all, and his still laughably uncoordinated and doesnt move well. Thats not what you want at LT...,well, at least not what I want.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone noticed he hasn't made a comment since the OP?

This is a prime example of bandwagon-ism.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand all the hate towards Gilbert. I could understand if he was a 4th-5th yr player. But he's only going into his 3rd season and his second season he was injured the entire time. I'm not saying he's a great OT, but with the current state of our OL I believe he's fine.

It's funny to hear all this positive talk about M. Starks because quite a few of you rode him off years ago. Not to toot my own horn, but I defended M. Starks at the time because I believe he got the wrong end of the deal. As I believe Marcus Gilbert is receiving at this time.
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