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YlionsY
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Either he'll be overpayed and not as productive or he'll come back to the Pats with a reasonable contract.
Also Welker is light years ahead of Titus Young and could be pretty productive in the Lions offense. Probably not as effective as NE but much better than Young. Lions just don't have that type of money to throw around.
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| He might fit the Lions philosophically but the cap situation they are in will prevent this from happening unless he signs for well under his value. |
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Malik
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| If he came within 35-45 receptions he had with New England I'd be pretty shocked. |
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YlionsY
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| Malik wrote: | | If he came within 35-45 receptions he had with New England I'd be pretty shocked. |
Doubt he comes close to the production he saw in NE if he moves on.
I don't doubt that a team will pay him expecting the same production he had in NE.
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| Billy Spikes wrote: | | GoneWithTheWind wrote: | | Wes Welker=Danny Amendola. |
Welker has been getting crushed by DLs/LBs/DBs for years and barely missed any time at all, Amendola made a total of 9 starts the past two seasons due to injuries while also having career per catch average of 8.8. [Welker has 11.2 average] |
Amendola is really good and would be well worth a lot of money if healthy. That said, Welker is far more valuable because Amendola's health is a huge concern. |
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mcmurtry86
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| BlueOne wrote: | | Billy Spikes wrote: | | GoneWithTheWind wrote: | | Wes Welker=Danny Amendola. |
Welker has been getting crushed by DLs/LBs/DBs for years and barely missed any time at all, Amendola made a total of 9 starts the past two seasons due to injuries while also having career per catch average of 8.8. [Welker has 11.2 average] |
Amendola is really good and would be well worth a lot of money if healthy. That said, Welker is far more valuable because Amendola's health is a huge concern. |
Amendola's injuries - while concerning - have been broken bone types (one time, reasonably unlikely to recur)
Welker's had a few concussions and takes some crushing hits due to his size and type of player he is. As we saw with Wayne Chrebet, over-the-middle slot guys can see an abrupt end to their careers due to head injuries. Amendola has a troubling injury history for sure, but Welker's ability to hold up for 3+ more years is unlikely IMO. |
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| YlionsY wrote: | | Malik wrote: | | If he came within 35-45 receptions he had with New England I'd be pretty shocked. |
Doubt he comes close to the production he saw in NE if he moves on.
I don't doubt that a team will pay him expecting the same production he had in NE. |
thats stupid tho when no one can cover him... its not like a running back where the line can create these insane gaps and a average back can look amazing...
i seen so many corners and safeties get turned inside out by Welker.. hes got to be one of the hardest one on one covers in the game. and he still has to make those 100 catches which are usually in traffic.
why is every one actin like this guys a scrub who road off Bradys back ... cause everything says hes a work horse.
Didnt he come back from blown out knee like AP and still beast...
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YlionsY
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| Bednarik60 wrote: | | YlionsY wrote: | | Malik wrote: | | If he came within 35-45 receptions he had with New England I'd be pretty shocked. |
Doubt he comes close to the production he saw in NE if he moves on.
I don't doubt that a team will pay him expecting the same production he had in NE. |
thats stupid tho when no one can cover him... its not like a running back where the line can create these insane gaps and a average back can look amazing...
i seen so many corners and safeties get turned inside out by Welker.. hes got to be one of the hardest one on one covers in the game. and he still has to make those 100 catches which are usually in traffic.
why is every one actin like this guys a scrub who road off Bradys back ... cause everything says hes a work horse.
Didnt he come back from blown out knee like AP and still beast...
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I'm not saying he won't be productive but he won't see NE type numbers.
Guy is alright but is in the perfect fit with NE. No way he sees the production he has with NE and it seems like you would be one of the GM's to overpay him expecting him to replicate.
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The thing that will hold him back on other teams is his hands....he has a small catching radius, even for his size. He makes an awful lot of catches with his body. Brady's accuracy makes up for that.
He'll get open fine no matter where he plays, but unless your QB can hit him in the numbers the vast majority of the time he could easily lead the league in drops.
The Broncos or Saints would be ideal...but both are pretty set at WR. The packers are losing Jennings but Cobb is great out of the slot and they tend to build through the draft and trust their young guys. I understand the idea of suggesting Detroit....but Staffords short accuracy is nothing like good enough to use Welker properly.
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Malik
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| YlionsY wrote: | | Bednarik60 wrote: | | YlionsY wrote: | | Malik wrote: | | If he came within 35-45 receptions he had with New England I'd be pretty shocked. |
Doubt he comes close to the production he saw in NE if he moves on.
I don't doubt that a team will pay him expecting the same production he had in NE. |
thats stupid tho when no one can cover him... its not like a running back where the line can create these insane gaps and a average back can look amazing...
i seen so many corners and safeties get turned inside out by Welker.. hes got to be one of the hardest one on one covers in the game. and he still has to make those 100 catches which are usually in traffic.
why is every one actin like this guys a scrub who road off Bradys back ... cause everything says hes a work horse.
Didnt he come back from blown out knee like AP and still beast...
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I'm not saying he won't be productive but he won't see NE type numbers.
Guy is alright but is in the perfect fit with NE. No way he sees the production he has with NE and it seems like you would be one of the GM's to overpay him expecting him to replicate. |
I see him a lot like Brandon Marshall in that while talented it's largely target based. I don't see many teams throwing him the ball 100 times, much less the 200 times like Brady does. |
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If I was running the Broncos front office, I would make a run at Wes Welker.
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Let it be noted that the source for this was Ron Borges... a reporter who has no connection to the Patriots and hasn't broken anything relevant in a decade. While I approve of this if true, and it may very well be, this is speculation and no more.
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| Plush wrote: | | I think he's headed to to Detroit or Miami |
That would be nice, but Detroit doesn't have the cap space to make that happen, and there are far too many other holes to throw a bunch of money in another WR.
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He played for the Patriots this year IMO
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