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What's the best pick we could get for Weeden in a trade?
1st
17%
 17%  [ 6 ]
2nd
8%
 8%  [ 3 ]
3rd
32%
 32%  [ 11 ]
4th
26%
 26%  [ 9 ]
5th or less
14%
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0%
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dropkick_pride wrote:
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bruceb wrote:
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Quality response. The whole idea of rating a player based on his trade value is a new one to me. Especially a QB. After his rookie year.

The whole idea behind this thread drives right past nonsensical into the state of asininity.


Unless, of course, one considers that the rumor of Weeden being traded has legs, which it does, in which case it makes eminent sense to wonder what the yield from such a trade might be and, in the process, to ponder the value of the yield as a measure of the wisdom of the pick.

I can only speculate that your melancholy and despondency are influencing your posts.



You couldn't speculate a silk sheet if you had a hot date with a babe.... I lost my train of thought.


I'd speculate all over those silk sheets and the babe too...


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing late 3rd/4th. There's only so much a team will trade for a 30 year old QB who still needs development time. I think this will be one of those deals ala Brady Quinn where hometown bias causes everyone to think the guy is worth much more than he really is.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spectre wrote:
I'm guessing late 3rd/4th. There's only so much a team will trade for a 30 year old QB who still needs development time. I think this will be one of those deals ala Brady Quinn where hometown bias causes everyone to think the guy is worth much more than he really is.


Brady Quinn still hasn't thrown for 3300 yards, and has thrown less TDs in his 6 year career as Weeden threw for last year.

Quinn may be younger, but he's not anywhere near as talented or productive.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spectre wrote:
I'm guessing late 3rd/4th. There's only so much a team will trade for a 30 year old QB who still needs development time. I think this will be one of those deals ala Brady Quinn where hometown bias causes everyone to think the guy is worth much more than he really is.


Agree.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ditchdigger wrote:
Spectre wrote:
I'm guessing late 3rd/4th. There's only so much a team will trade for a 30 year old QB who still needs development time. I think this will be one of those deals ala Brady Quinn where hometown bias causes everyone to think the guy is worth much more than he really is.


Brady Quinn still hasn't thrown for 3300 yards, and has thrown less TDs in his 6 year career as Weeden threw for last year.

Quinn may be younger, but he's not anywhere near as talented or productive.

Agree.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I said a 5th or less. You don't get a lot for a 30 year old backup.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I said a 5th or less. You don't get a lot for a 30 year old backup.


How much do you get for a 29 year old starter? Probably a bit more.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ditchdigger wrote:
BrownieTheElf wrote:
I said a 5th or less. You don't get a lot for a 30 year old backup.


How much do you get for a 29 year old starter? Probably a bit more.


De Facto starter. What would you get for Ryan Fitzpatrick?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ditchdigger wrote:
BrownieTheElf wrote:
I said a 5th or less. You don't get a lot for a 30 year old backup.


How much do you get for a 29 year old starter? Probably a bit more.


De Facto starter. What would you get for Ryan Fitzpatrick?


Much less due to contract.

Weed's contract:

2013 - $1.83M
2014 - $2.23M
2015 - $2.57M (not fully guaranteed)

Fitz's contract:

2013 - $10.45M
2014 - $10.55M
2015 - $10.4M
2016 - $9.95M
2017 - $9.65M
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ditchdigger wrote:
BrownieTheElf wrote:
I said a 5th or less. You don't get a lot for a 30 year old backup.


How much do you get for a 29 year old starter? Probably a bit more.


Who is trading for him to become their starter?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BrownieTheElf wrote:
ditchdigger wrote:
BrownieTheElf wrote:
I said a 5th or less. You don't get a lot for a 30 year old backup.


How much do you get for a 29 year old starter? Probably a bit more.


Who is trading for him to become their starter?


Why would we trade him for backup returns?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who are the crazy idiots who put 1st rounder?? Or even 2nd rounder??

I think the absolute highest potential pick we COULD get is maybe a late 3rd if we got some bad GM who likes Weeden and makes a rash impulsive decision on draft day.

But realistically I say a 5th.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

duke2056 wrote:
Who are the crazy idiots who put 1st rounder?? Or even 2nd rounder??

I think the absolute highest potential pick we COULD get is maybe a late 3rd if we got some bad GM who likes Weeden and makes a rash impulsive decision on draft day.

But realistically I say a 5th.


The Crazy idiots are the correct ones as has been stated...

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The only answer is a 1st, if you could get someone to give you one. Their is nothing higher than a 1st.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thomas5737 wrote:
BrownieTheElf wrote:
ditchdigger wrote:
BrownieTheElf wrote:
I said a 5th or less. You don't get a lot for a 30 year old backup.


How much do you get for a 29 year old starter? Probably a bit more.


Who is trading for him to become their starter?


Why would we trade him for backup returns?


If we are honestly going to get rid of him via trade, that's what we are going to get.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

duke2056 wrote:
Who are the crazy idiots who put 1st rounder?? Or even 2nd rounder??

I think the absolute highest potential pick we COULD get is maybe a late 3rd if we got some bad GM who likes Weeden and makes a rash impulsive decision on draft day.

But realistically I say a 5th.


Exactly.
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