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ditchdigger
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| Dropkick_pride wrote: | | ditchdigger wrote: | | bruceb wrote: | | Quote: | Quality response. The whole idea of rating a player based on his trade value is a new one to me. Especially a QB. After his rookie year.
The whole idea behind this thread drives right past nonsensical into the state of asininity. |
Unless, of course, one considers that the rumor of Weeden being traded has legs, which it does, in which case it makes eminent sense to wonder what the yield from such a trade might be and, in the process, to ponder the value of the yield as a measure of the wisdom of the pick.
I can only speculate that your melancholy and despondency are influencing your posts. |
You couldn't speculate a silk sheet if you had a hot date with a babe.... I lost my train of thought. |
I'd speculate all over those silk sheets and the babe too... |
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Spectre
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| I'm guessing late 3rd/4th. There's only so much a team will trade for a 30 year old QB who still needs development time. I think this will be one of those deals ala Brady Quinn where hometown bias causes everyone to think the guy is worth much more than he really is. |
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ditchdigger
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| Spectre wrote: | | I'm guessing late 3rd/4th. There's only so much a team will trade for a 30 year old QB who still needs development time. I think this will be one of those deals ala Brady Quinn where hometown bias causes everyone to think the guy is worth much more than he really is. |
Brady Quinn still hasn't thrown for 3300 yards, and has thrown less TDs in his 6 year career as Weeden threw for last year.
Quinn may be younger, but he's not anywhere near as talented or productive. |
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bruceb
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Spectre wrote: | | I'm guessing late 3rd/4th. There's only so much a team will trade for a 30 year old QB who still needs development time. I think this will be one of those deals ala Brady Quinn where hometown bias causes everyone to think the guy is worth much more than he really is. |
Agree.
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Thomas5737
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| ditchdigger wrote: | | Spectre wrote: | | I'm guessing late 3rd/4th. There's only so much a team will trade for a 30 year old QB who still needs development time. I think this will be one of those deals ala Brady Quinn where hometown bias causes everyone to think the guy is worth much more than he really is. |
Brady Quinn still hasn't thrown for 3300 yards, and has thrown less TDs in his 6 year career as Weeden threw for last year.
Quinn may be younger, but he's not anywhere near as talented or productive. |
Agree. |
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BrownieTheElf
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I said a 5th or less. You don't get a lot for a 30 year old backup.
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ditchdigger
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| BrownieTheElf wrote: | | I said a 5th or less. You don't get a lot for a 30 year old backup. |
How much do you get for a 29 year old starter? Probably a bit more. |
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roger murdock
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| ditchdigger wrote: | | BrownieTheElf wrote: | | I said a 5th or less. You don't get a lot for a 30 year old backup. |
How much do you get for a 29 year old starter? Probably a bit more. |
De Facto starter. What would you get for Ryan Fitzpatrick?
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ditchdigger
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| roger murdock wrote: | | ditchdigger wrote: | | BrownieTheElf wrote: | | I said a 5th or less. You don't get a lot for a 30 year old backup. |
How much do you get for a 29 year old starter? Probably a bit more. |
De Facto starter. What would you get for Ryan Fitzpatrick? |
Much less due to contract.
Weed's contract:
2013 - $1.83M
2014 - $2.23M
2015 - $2.57M (not fully guaranteed)
Fitz's contract:
2013 - $10.45M
2014 - $10.55M
2015 - $10.4M
2016 - $9.95M
2017 - $9.65M |
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BrownieTheElf
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| ditchdigger wrote: | | BrownieTheElf wrote: | | I said a 5th or less. You don't get a lot for a 30 year old backup. |
How much do you get for a 29 year old starter? Probably a bit more. |
Who is trading for him to become their starter?
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Thomas5737
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| BrownieTheElf wrote: | | ditchdigger wrote: | | BrownieTheElf wrote: | | I said a 5th or less. You don't get a lot for a 30 year old backup. |
How much do you get for a 29 year old starter? Probably a bit more. |
Who is trading for him to become their starter? |
Why would we trade him for backup returns? |
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duke2056
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Who are the crazy idiots who put 1st rounder?? Or even 2nd rounder??
I think the absolute highest potential pick we COULD get is maybe a late 3rd if we got some bad GM who likes Weeden and makes a rash impulsive decision on draft day.
But realistically I say a 5th.
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Thomas5737
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:44 am Post subject: |
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| duke2056 wrote: | Who are the crazy idiots who put 1st rounder?? Or even 2nd rounder??
I think the absolute highest potential pick we COULD get is maybe a late 3rd if we got some bad GM who likes Weeden and makes a rash impulsive decision on draft day.
But realistically I say a 5th. |
The Crazy idiots are the correct ones as has been stated...
| elfman55 wrote: | The only answer is a 1st, if you could get someone to give you one. Their is nothing higher than a 1st.
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BrownieTheElf
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| Thomas5737 wrote: | | BrownieTheElf wrote: | | ditchdigger wrote: | | BrownieTheElf wrote: | | I said a 5th or less. You don't get a lot for a 30 year old backup. |
How much do you get for a 29 year old starter? Probably a bit more. |
Who is trading for him to become their starter? |
Why would we trade him for backup returns? |
If we are honestly going to get rid of him via trade, that's what we are going to get.
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BrownieTheElf
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| duke2056 wrote: | Who are the crazy idiots who put 1st rounder?? Or even 2nd rounder??
I think the absolute highest potential pick we COULD get is maybe a late 3rd if we got some bad GM who likes Weeden and makes a rash impulsive decision on draft day.
But realistically I say a 5th. |
Exactly.
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