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sandwhich


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harris Smith wrote:
I totally agree, one of them should be moved this offseason. My fear though is that the Jets will move Cromartie to get the cap room they need without being in a position to negotiate a new deal with Revis, and they might be unsuccessfull coming to an agreement with by the time he hits FA next year.

The Jets should make a good faith effort to get Revis signed this offseason. If a workable arrangement can't be reached, he should be traded for future picks, while retaining Cromartie, and possibly Landry as well.


I think trading either Revis or Cromartie is contingent on Revis agreeing to a contract with somebody, so yeah that does make sense. If we sign Revis, expect to see Cromartie moved. If time goes by and nothing has been done, I'll consider Revis a goner. In fact, the longer this goes without hearing about contract talks the less likely it feels Revis will remain a Jet.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Revis is due a 1M roster bonus on March 12... If he hasnt been traded by then, he'll stay a Jet.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jimbo1904 wrote:
I think Revis is due a 1M roster bonus on March 12... If he hasnt been traded by then, he'll stay a Jet.


Because of 1m?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really think they have to restructure Harris instead of trading him. Bart Scott isn't even a two down player anymore. If Pouha, Harris and Scott are all gone, you're giving up the entire middle of your defense. And what happens if they can't resign Landry or Bell? That is the entire middle of that defense. And as was said, Harris makes all the defensive calls.

They aren't solving the whole cap situation in one offseason. I think they have to work to restructure at least 2 of the big 3 (Harris, Brick, Mangold) and then see where they stand.

If they can work some cap room and resign Slausson (or Moore as it seems like I may be the only one who would rather keep Slauson) and one of the safeties, then they can get a better look at Revis' situation. At that point, they can make decisions about the CB situation.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the situation is though, the Jets have to prioritize who the most talented players on the roster currently are, and direct their efforts towards retaining those players first and foremost. It might take the franchise another 5-10 years to acquire a player who has something approaching the talent of a Revis or Cromartie at the CB position. Finding a comparable replacement to David Harris is something that might be accomplished in a 24 month period.

The other thing is, I think we have to expect one of the two will be dealt this offseason, out of necessity. The question is, will the Jets be in a position cap wise to negotiate a long term deal with Darrelle Revis simply by extending Harris and saving three million with all the other positions to fill? I'm not a cap guru, but my guess would be no. And if that's the case, how can they trade Antonio Cromartie, with no assurance they'll be able to get a committment from Revis when he an UFA at the end of the year?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He has to restructure before I can rule out dealing him. If he isn't willing to be flexible and make the contract workable then they might not have a choice.

Revis and Harris came in the league together so I'm not sure how trading Harris would affect contract talks with Revis.

And to be completely honest, I'm a little tired of Revis crying about his money. He signed his last contract with the intention of holding out before the end of the contract.

I want to keep both; I don't want them to make unecessary moves and panic. The cap situation is ugly, but they can't make a bad situation worse.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont like trading up for glennon, id rather the extra 3rd. If glennon fell to us then thats another story.

In general id rather hoard our draft picks if possible.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really dislike the Glennon trade. I'd rather do without the Qb and take Patton in the second and use the third for a Rb or OG/OT
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sandwhich wrote:
The Draft

1/9- Dion Jordan, DE Oregon

Jordan is the best fit as a pass rusher for this team. He could stand to gain some weight, but it's not a big concern to me at all. His speed and absolute freakish size, paired with next to zero natural pass rushing ability, is really what the Jets defense lacks. In fact, I'm nearly positive the Jets will grab a pass rusher at this spot unless they are impressed enough with someone like Glennon, or if Warmack falls to this spot. I see Jordan translating better than Mingo, who struggles with blockers more from what I've seen.

Dion Jordan will be a pass rush specialist in 4 down lineman sets, but he's also shown an ability to work into a LBer role as well. His speed could help against mobile QBs, which has been a noted problem for the Jets defense.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jordan weighed in at 248 today, which makes him an even more desirable pick to me.

Might do a Re-draft after the combine, if anyone is interested.
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