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kingnothing
Joined: 23 Jan 2013 Posts: 38
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: Percy Harvin |
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| Psychlone wrote: | | It all hinges on the bolded above and that's what makes it seem very doubtful for me. He would price us out of signing Goldson and quite frankly, I'd sign Goldson over Harvin and his question marks any day of the week. |
I see your point. I would bet he is wanting #1 WR money. I just like the potential he could bring to the offense. |
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big9erfan
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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I don't believe the issue for us would be his trade value.
Aside from his ragging on his past two coaches which I think alone would disqualify him as a candidate for us, the real reason it won't happen is contract considerations. He is rumored to be wanting the money of a top receiver. But Crabs is still on his rookie contract and will certainly want a lot when his time is up. We all remember his hold out when he thought our offer wasn't good enough. How would he feel, and react, if a new guy got top money? And if Harvin is bad in the locker room could that spread to Crabs if he's unhappy with the contract situation? Then there's the future - how could we afford two WRs who both thought they were worth top WR money?
Seems to me much more likely we get another good, but second tier guy like Manningham, or simply draft another one. WR is one position where (despite Jenkins lack of PT) guys can often play as rookies and even make nice contributions. _________________
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48 1/2ers 
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| big9erfan wrote: | I don't believe the issue for us would be his trade value.
Aside from his ragging on his past two coaches which I think alone would disqualify him as a candidate for us, the real reason it won't happen is contract considerations. He is rumored to be wanting the money of a top receiver. But Crabs is still on his rookie contract and will certainly want a lot when his time is up. We all remember his hold out when he thought our offer wasn't good enough. How would he feel, and react, if a new guy got top money? And if Harvin is bad in the locker room could that spread to Crabs if he's unhappy with the contract situation? Then there's the future - how could we afford two WRs who both thought they were worth top WR money?
Seems to me much more likely we get another good, but second tier guy like Manningham, or simply draft another one. WR is one position where (despite Jenkins lack of PT) guys can often play as rookies and even make nice contributions. |
The thing that draws me in to Harvin is that he seriously could be one of the most versatile weapons this league has seen. If you group him with Kaep--who can extend plays, throw bombs, any rout to anywhere on the field. Crabs--The prototypical "possession receiver" who picks up first downs and draws safeties/linebackers in for double coverage. James/Hunter--capable of receiving out of the backfield or busting runs up the middle.
As a defensive coordinator how is it possible to stop an offense like this? The financial issue would be difficult to handle but if anyone could figure a way out it would be Paraag Marathe! _________________
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mrscottso 
Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 10025 Location: NY
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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I would love a weapon like Harvin, but is he worth the headache, and do we have the cash that he wants? _________________
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SoCalNiner 
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| mrscottso wrote: | | I would love a weapon like Harvin, but is he worth the headache, and do we have the cash that he wants? |
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oldman9er
Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 36611 Location: New Orleans
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Our offense wants to either spread the ball around or force lots of passes to Crabtree... which as others say, will be looking for a big contract soon enough. ( and Jeebus... wait till Kaepernick comes knocking for his pay-day )
Best bet instead of burning picks and big money to get a YAC receiver like Harvin? Develop your own weapon through the draft. Take an early shot on a big-bodied Harvin with Cordarrelle Patterson or Tavon Austin. I might even prefer to look at later options... like a Markus Wheaton, Tavarres King, or Marquise Goodwin.
I wouldn't likely be upset or disappointed if we came away with Harvin... but I just don't see it as a likely option. Might just come down to how desperate the Yorks/Harbs have now become to seal the deal and get ring #6. If they have confidence in their eye for talent? Take the draft approach.. if they are ready to chuck it all into the middle of the table? Make the big splash and hope for the best.
Just don't see the cap situation leaning to a Harvin addition. _________________
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SoCalNiner 
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| oldman9er wrote: | Our offense wants to either spread the ball around or force lots of passes to Crabtree... which as others say, will be looking for a big contract soon enough. ( and Jeebus... wait till Kaepernick comes knocking for his pay-day )
Best bet instead of burning picks and big money to get a YAC receiver like Harvin? Develop your own weapon through the draft. Take an early shot on a big-bodied Harvin with Cordarrelle Patterson or Tavon Austin. I might even prefer to look at later options... like a Markus Wheaton, Tavarres King, or Marquise Goodwin.
I wouldn't likely be upset or disappointed if we came away with Harvin... but I just don't see it as a likely option. Might just come down to how desperate the Yorks/Harbs have now become to seal the deal and get ring #6. If they have confidence in their eye for talent? Take the draft approach.. if they are ready to chuck it all into the middle of the table? Make the big splash and hope for the best.
Just don't see the cap situation leaning to a Harvin addition. |
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SoCalNiner 
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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So apparently Percy wants Fitzgerald/Megatron money. We can cross him off our list. _________________
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J-ALL-DAY 
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| SoCalNiner wrote: | | So apparently Percy wants Fitzgerald/Megatron money. We can cross him off our list. |
LOL! _________________
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SoCalNiner 
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| J-ALL-DAY wrote: | | SoCalNiner wrote: | | So apparently Percy wants Fitzgerald/Megatron money. We can cross him off our list. |
LOL! |
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5197/percy-harvin
Report: Harvin may seek annual $12 million
| Quote: | | According to ESPN 1500 Twin Cities, the "word circulating in league circles" is that Percy Harvin wants at least an annual $10 million in his new contract, with the "real goal" perhaps being $12 million or more. |
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SoCalNiner 
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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For a guy who's never hit a 1k season he sure wants top WR money. _________________
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J-ALL-DAY 
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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This season he was unbelievable, but he brings some baggage and want too much money. Good dream we had........................ _________________
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steadypimpin 
Joined: 01 Jan 2009 Posts: 7273 Location: Rockville, Maryland
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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$12 million? He's good and all but we could get a guy who will help us for half of that per year. _________________
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48 1/2ers 
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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I think the max any team would pay him is say a 5 year 40 million deal...but who knows someone might be crazy enough to go to 10m a year _________________
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kingnothing
Joined: 23 Jan 2013 Posts: 38
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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No way! The price is too steep. Trading away draft pick(s) and paying him 12 mil per yr.  |
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