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Senor Mortgage
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[quote="iPwn"] | Grachuus wrote: | | Thomas5737 wrote: | | kenney wrote: | | Desperado82 wrote: | | Or maybe players shouldn't be playing at 250-300+ lbs? |
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Sure let's just discount the fact that classically the NFL was populated by seasonal workers and NOW is populated by year-round workers. There's no difference between someone who trains endlessly vs a guy that does taxes four months a year at all./sarcasm |
Yep. Plus the legal, healthy supplements are significantly better and more widely accessible/used. |
Also nutrition and sports training has exploded over the past decade or so and what trainers know now is so much more accurate than in the past. I have no doubt PEDs are being abused but a lot of it is the advance in understanding of human sports physiology. Honestly, though radical, my ultimate solution to the problem is a boxing style weight limit, defined by position/adjusted for height etc... All of the safety protocols in the world aren't stopping the fact that force = mass * acceleration and that there is no way to control the latter. |
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cp0k2
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:11 am Post subject: |
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| justinsgiants wrote: | | I have a feeling that the NFL is only making this a media buzz only to go forth with something less radical to implement so it's almost like they're making the public, players, fans compromise. |
The NFL isn't doing anything. This is Bill Polian's statement and opinion only. He is a former member of the competition committee making a comment to a reporter. He said the NFL could look into the possibility again after it was shot down before. These are pretty vague statements with no timetable and Bill Polian doesn't speak for the NFL.
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Dropkick_pride
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| RuskieTitan wrote: | Wider = more room = more holes in coverage = more offenses putting up points = more popular amongst 'casual' fans = more revenue for NFL.
I do not agree with it, but that would be the NFL's perspective as a business organization. |
DING! DING! DING! and we have a winner!!!
this idea has little to nothing to do with player safety and everything to do with increasing revenue. this idea is not new...
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sammymvpknight
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| Harper41 wrote: | | Kiwibrown wrote: | | get rid of protective equipment and you will improve the safety of the game, the pads don't actually help people, and it would make the game much faster as well. |
The pads don't actually help people? What? |
Pads/Helmets are definitely part of the TBI/concussions issue. They protect against soft tissue and bone injuries (ie skull fractures)...but definitely make the TBI problem worse. |
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NYGiantsman10
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:18 am Post subject: |
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| steadypimpin wrote: | Let's just adopt CFL rules and play 3 downs instead of 4. That would be less downs to get hurt too.  |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPOS786qBsI
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willy_law
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| Dropkick_pride wrote: | | RuskieTitan wrote: | Wider = more room = more holes in coverage = more offenses putting up points = more popular amongst 'casual' fans = more revenue for NFL.
I do not agree with it, but that would be the NFL's perspective as a business organization. |
DING! DING! DING! and we have a winner!!!
this idea has little to nothing to do with player safety and everything to do with increasing revenue. this idea is not new... |
thats the first thing I thought of when I heard this, its not for safety at all. ( maybe safety does come at some point) but all that is doing is giving a player like Jamal Charles more room to get to the corner vs Patrick Willis. Its giving Mike Wallace more room to work with when going deep. All its going to do is make the average PPG drastically increase
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BladeKor
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| The NFL is wanting to turn into the AFL.. Basically all offense and no defense. Which is almost there now. |
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Fullback40
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| We need to get a petition together to poison Roger Godell. The dude is worthless and needs to be painfully tortured to death. |
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cp0k2
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Fullback40 wrote: | | We need to get a petition together to poison Roger Godell. The dude is worthless and needs to be painfully tortured to death. |
Complete and utter ignorance.
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SadLionFan00
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Fullback40 wrote: | | We need to get a petition together to poison Roger Godell. The dude is worthless and needs to be painfully tortured to death. |
Im uh....Im gonna go ahead and pass on that petition. Unfortunately, Im not a sociopath.
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| Silver&Black88 wrote: | | Quote: | | Trestman is a great coach but Cutler is already a pouty overconfident poo flinger. What more can he do with him? |
Get him to fling poo more accurately and make better decisions when flinging it? |
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J Pep 4 Step
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder how many people in this thread that are against this safety measure are also against 18 game seasons because 'it's too dangerous for the players."
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| jrry32 wrote: | | Faulk's argument style is reminiscent of Mark Sanchez's passing style. Inconsistent as hell and all over the place. I'm just waiting for him to run into iPwn's butt and fumble. |
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JaguarCrazy2832
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Why do we even field defenses anymore?
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Bohlmann20
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Dropkick_pride wrote: | | RuskieTitan wrote: | Wider = more room = more holes in coverage = more offenses putting up points = more popular amongst 'casual' fans = more revenue for NFL.
I do not agree with it, but that would be the NFL's perspective as a business organization. |
DING! DING! DING! and we have a winner!!!
this idea has little to nothing to do with player safety and everything to do with increasing revenue. this idea is not new... |
Nor is this insight. I'm sure everyone understood this
At the same time, defenses could overcompensate for the pass, which would give way to a new generation of the running game (not debating this rule isn't an offensive advantage, just saying it'd help the run out as much as the pass). |
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J Pep 4 Step
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | Why do we even field defenses anymore? |
I would hope if this ever became a reality they would have the foresight to adjust coverage rules as well. Allow defensive players to be more physical in coverage.
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| jrry32 wrote: | | Faulk's argument style is reminiscent of Mark Sanchez's passing style. Inconsistent as hell and all over the place. I'm just waiting for him to run into iPwn's butt and fumble. |
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panther dude
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:17 am Post subject: |
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| vike daddy wrote: | you guys get so worked up over little things...
it's just one owner suggesting it, and other owners have already said they oppose it. |
The fans can only take so much |
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