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Zach Miller for sure. In importance to this team, he is above the others left on this list. There aren't many TE's that can block like he can AND run routes and catch like him. Quite valuable.
I love Wagner too. Can't wait to see if/how much he improves next year.
C'mon Mario, There's no way Wilson is too low. The list so far is legit.
Kam is my favorite player but I'm not going to argue him needing to be higher because I want him to be the best player on the team. This list is very fair.
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Still think Zach Miller is getting overrated. He was a nobody for us in the receiving game prior to the playoffs. Sorry if I want to see him carry that into the regular season next year before I crown him over guys like Browner and Wagner who were consistently great.
My next 3 probably goes Wagner, Browner, Miller.
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| SaveourSonics wrote: | Still think Zach Miller is getting overrated. He was a nobody for us in the receiving game prior to the playoffs. Sorry if I want to see him carry that into the regular season next year before I crown him over guys like Browner and Wagner who were consistently great.
My next 3 probably goes Wagner, Browner, Miller. |
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| imani wrote: | | SaveourSonics wrote: | Still think Zach Miller is getting overrated. He was a nobody for us in the receiving game prior to the playoffs. Sorry if I want to see him carry that into the regular season next year before I crown him over guys like Browner and Wagner who were consistently great.
My next 3 probably goes Wagner, Browner, Miller. |
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No joke. Thanks for doing the leg work on the bolding for me.
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| SaveourSonics wrote: | Still think Zach Miller is getting overrated. He was a nobody for us in the receiving game prior to the playoffs. Sorry if I want to see him carry that into the regular season next year before I crown him over guys like Browner and Wagner who were consistently great.
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I completely agree. Nobody was talking about him prior to the playoffs. If we held this before the playoffs started, Miller would have been behind BB, Wagner, Wright, and Rice. Dont get me wrong, hes a great player, but everyone just loves him because of the playoffs.
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| chpjns15 wrote: | | SaveourSonics wrote: | Still think Zach Miller is getting overrated. He was a nobody for us in the receiving game prior to the playoffs. Sorry if I want to see him carry that into the regular season next year before I crown him over guys like Browner and Wagner who were consistently great.
My next 3 probably goes Wagner, Browner, Miller. |
I completely agree. Nobody was talking about him prior to the playoffs. If we held this before the playoffs started, Miller would have been behind BB, Wagner, Wright, and Rice. Dont get me wrong, hes a great player, but everyone just loves him because of the playoffs. |
Nope. Wagner is the only guy I would have had above him. Wright is in a way a defensive clone of Miller, but needs to improve his coverage skills to be the all around talent Zach is. Browner was good. Wouldn't say he was a better player than Zach at any point this year.
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| SupeRG00F wrote: | Zach Miller for sure. In importance to this team, he is above the others left on this list. There aren't many TE's that can block like he can AND run routes and catch like him. Quite valuable.
I love Wagner too. Can't wait to see if/how much he improves next year.
C'mon Mario, There's no way Wilson is too low. The list so far is legit.
Kam is my favorite player but I'm not going to argue him needing to be higher because I want him to be the best player on the team. This list is very fair. |
Well, the only way I can prove you wrong is if Wilson lights it up next year. Some form of sig bet perhaps??
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| Tatupu_64 wrote: | | imani wrote: | | SaveourSonics wrote: | Still think Zach Miller is getting overrated. He was a nobody for us in the receiving game prior to the playoffs. Sorry if I want to see him carry that into the regular season next year before I crown him over guys like Browner and Wagner who were consistently great.
My next 3 probably goes Wagner, Browner, Miller. |
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No joke. Thanks for doing the leg work on the bolding for me. |
Prior to his suspension, Browner was playing amazing football. He had less targets on him than Sherman did before the suspension and was erasing people.
Once again, short term memory is taking over.
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| SaveourSonics wrote: | | Tatupu_64 wrote: | | imani wrote: | | SaveourSonics wrote: | Still think Zach Miller is getting overrated. He was a nobody for us in the receiving game prior to the playoffs. Sorry if I want to see him carry that into the regular season next year before I crown him over guys like Browner and Wagner who were consistently great.
My next 3 probably goes Wagner, Browner, Miller. |
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No joke. Thanks for doing the leg work on the bolding for me. |
Prior to his suspension, Browner was playing amazing football. He had less targets on him than Sherman did before the suspension and was erasing people.
Once again, short term memory is taking over. |
No? People targeted our NB and the center of our field because the coverage was awful there.
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Oh and please, show me the game by game targets and the amount of completions each CB gave up. I'm dying to see.
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SupeRG00F
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| MARIO MANGELINI wrote: | | SupeRG00F wrote: | Zach Miller for sure. In importance to this team, he is above the others left on this list. There aren't many TE's that can block like he can AND run routes and catch like him. Quite valuable.
I love Wagner too. Can't wait to see if/how much he improves next year.
C'mon Mario, There's no way Wilson is too low. The list so far is legit.
Kam is my favorite player but I'm not going to argue him needing to be higher because I want him to be the best player on the team. This list is very fair. |
Well, the only way I can prove you wrong is if Wilson lights it up next year. Some form of sig bet perhaps?? |
I don't understand what you think he needs to do next year for him to prove to me that he was the best player on the team this past season?
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SupeRG00F
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| chpjns15 wrote: | | SaveourSonics wrote: | Still think Zach Miller is getting overrated. He was a nobody for us in the receiving game prior to the playoffs. Sorry if I want to see him carry that into the regular season next year before I crown him over guys like Browner and Wagner who were consistently great.
My next 3 probably goes Wagner, Browner, Miller. |
I completely agree. Nobody was talking about him prior to the playoffs. If we held this before the playoffs started, Miller would have been behind BB, Wagner, Wright, and Rice. Dont get me wrong, hes a great player, but everyone just loves him because of the playoffs. |
No way man, he's been solid and has done everything asked from him throughout the season. He hasn't had pretty stats all year except the playoffs but that does NOT mean people think he's bad or underachieving.
I see posts in here about how Browner is expendable and we should look for a smaller quicker guy to play opposite Sherman, no one suggests replacing Miller because there isn't a TE out there close to being traded or released that can do what we need him to do. Witten, Heath Miller and Gronk are the three I can think of, they definately aren't going anywhere.
So the reason i'm voting Miller is he played better throughout this past season than the others left.
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MARIO MANGELINI
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| SupeRG00F wrote: | | MARIO MANGELINI wrote: | | SupeRG00F wrote: | Zach Miller for sure. In importance to this team, he is above the others left on this list. There aren't many TE's that can block like he can AND run routes and catch like him. Quite valuable.
I love Wagner too. Can't wait to see if/how much he improves next year.
C'mon Mario, There's no way Wilson is too low. The list so far is legit.
Kam is my favorite player but I'm not going to argue him needing to be higher because I want him to be the best player on the team. This list is very fair. |
Well, the only way I can prove you wrong is if Wilson lights it up next year. Some form of sig bet perhaps?? |
I don't understand what you think he needs to do next year for him to prove to me that he was the best player on the team this past season? |
That's what I mean, it's hard for me to show you how I thought he was 
I can show you some advanced stats and such, but I know some people here don't like stats like QBR, QB rating, PFF, and Football Outsiders.
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| MARIO MANGELINI wrote: | | SupeRG00F wrote: | | MARIO MANGELINI wrote: | | SupeRG00F wrote: | Zach Miller for sure. In importance to this team, he is above the others left on this list. There aren't many TE's that can block like he can AND run routes and catch like him. Quite valuable.
I love Wagner too. Can't wait to see if/how much he improves next year.
C'mon Mario, There's no way Wilson is too low. The list so far is legit.
Kam is my favorite player but I'm not going to argue him needing to be higher because I want him to be the best player on the team. This list is very fair. |
Well, the only way I can prove you wrong is if Wilson lights it up next year. Some form of sig bet perhaps?? |
I don't understand what you think he needs to do next year for him to prove to me that he was the best player on the team this past season? |
That's what I mean, it's hard for me to show you how I thought he was
I can show you some advanced stats and such, but I know some people here don't like stats like QBR, QB rating, PFF, and Football Outsiders. |
How do you know he would be that good without the other offensive players ranked higher than him?
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I'm not sure what the nickel getting targeted has to do with Browner.
| Tatupu_64 wrote: | | Oh and please, show me the game by game targets and the amount of completions each CB gave up. I'm dying to see. |
I stopped keeping track of Browners once he was suspended and don't know it off hand just like I don't know Shermans numbers off hand. You are fully welcome to go back and check or perhaps find a site that shows targets against if you don't believe me, but this isn't the first time I've said it.
Prior to his suspension, do you recall a single game where Browner was consistently beat?
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