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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:28 pm    Post subject: Mock Offseason v.4 - 2bigby0 Reply with quote

Free Agency:
The Packers have a large number of free agents this year the list includes some big names. You can fully expect the Packers to let the following players leave via Free Agency.
-Greg Jennings
-Donald Driver (Retiring)
-Jeff Saturday (Retiring)
-Cedric Benson
-Ryan Grant
-Jarrett Boykin
-Tom Crabtree
-Robert Francois
-Erik Walden
*The Packers gain 3.8 Million with the retirement of C Jeff Saturday

Cuts/Released
-John Kuhn - You can almost guarantee that he has played his last season with the Packers. He's one of the highest paid fullbacks in the NFL and we just don't need a fullback in our offense. Kuhn struggled with picking up short yardage and goaline touchdowns. He's a quality blocker on 3rd down in our passing offense, however his position can easily be replaced by a tight end.

Restructured
-Ryan Pickett
-Charles Woodson
*Woodson and Pickett restructure their contracts so they can retire as Green Bay Packers and still play on a championship caliber team.

Free Agents that are expected to be re-signed
-Sam Shields is a RFA and the Packers view Sam as a big future component of their defense. With him being an RFA, it's going to make it very difficult for anyone else to sign him.
-Evan Dietrich-Smith played really well down the stretch. He'll be back and it will honestly be his position to lose. Our running game picked up the second he was put in the lineup and he held is own. He is also a RFA.
-Brad Jones is a tricky one and I've heard opinions for and against him. It's my belief the Packers bring him back. He wasn't an issue for the defense and the nice thing about Jones is that he is the 'utility' linebacker. He can backup both inside and outside. He can also be a valuable member to our special teams units. In my opinion, he is more valuable to the team than AJ Hawk.
-With some of our remaning cap room, it's expected that both Clay Matthews and BJ Raji will be given market value extensions. They're key components to the defense and the Packers certainly want to keep these players.

*Packers are likely to be awarded a 4th Round Compensatory Selection and a 7th Round Compensatory Selection.

-2013 'MOCK' Packers Draft-

Round 1 - John Jenkins NT/DE Georgia 6'4 358 lbs
Will he fall this far? The Packers 'fancy' Jenkins quite a bit. He's the #4 rated defensive tackle in the draft and is rumored at bottom portion of the 1st Round. Pack need depth on the D-Line and also a big body to eventually replace Pickett. Also will help to give Raji a break because his snap count was far too high for a man his size.

Round 2 - Quinton Patton WR Louisiana Tech 6'0 202 lbs
This is a classic Thompson pick. Patton is a great talent. Right now, he's a rumored mid 3rd rounder, but as Thompson has proved time and time again, if he likes a guy at receiver he will take him no matter what the draft pundits think. See Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings, James Jones, and Randall Cobb.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htOC2hKV7iM

Round 3 - Mike Gillislee RB Florida 5'11 207 lbs
Gillislee really helped himself out at the senior bowl. He's actually my favorite running back in the draft. He reminds me a lot of a ‘CJ Spiller-type’ guy. Active in the passing game and has breakaway speed that the Packers haven’t had at RB since Ahman Green. Gillislee a one year starter at Florida, hasn’t had the normal beating a 22 year old running back has taken. The odometer is real low on Gillislee and his best football is ahead of him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46F1Yt3jF10

Round 4 – Chase Thomas DE/OLB Stanford 6’4 245 lbs
If you want to play the 3-4 defense, you need more effective athletes on the outside than Erik Walden, Frank Zombo, and Dezman Moses. The Packers lack serious ‘length’ at the position and with Perry coming back from it’s nice to have someone with more upside as the ‘swing’ backer. It’s no reason why current 49ers Defensive Coordinator Vic Fangio recruited Thomas to Stanford when he was there just a few seasons ago. Thomas has been playing OLB in a 3-4 for three straight seasons so there is less of a learning curve for him.

Round 4 (Compensatory Pick) – AJ Klein MLB Iowa State 6’1 246 lbs
The Packers lack options at linebacker. If we want Dom Capers to have creative blitz packages, we need more talent at linebacker. If we sustain an injury or two, we need to have the players to keep being creative, because ‘vanilla’ has smashed us in the Postseason. Hawk could be entering his final season as a Packer. The Packers need someone better than Hawk and Bishop in coverage. Klein is a big time player and is all over the field.

Round 5 – DE Baker Steinkuhler DE/DT Nebraska 6’6 290 lbs
The Packers bolster their interior again as this is a position in ‘transition.’ The only keepers along the defensive line are Pickett and Raji. With Worthy’s uncertainty for next season the Packers need to replenshish the position and add some length as well. Guys with length like JJ Watt and Aaron Smith have had a great deal of success at the 5-Technique position in the 3-4. Again, we want to give Capers options on defense.

Round 6 – WR Jordan Shepard WR LSU 6’0 194 lbs
Two receivers out… Two receivers in. Depth. At points this season, our depth was tested at receiver. We are losing two guys that received quite a few snaps. Driver got playing time during the early portion of the season, but Jennings’ production is what we must replace. Shepard is spectacular athlete. Highly recruited out of high school, but it just never worked out for him at LSU. Some injuries and the dog house really hindered his time. The Packers take a chance on him.

*Packers take C Joe Madsen from West Virgina in the 6th Round
*Packers take K Dustin Hopkins from Florida State in the 7th Round
*Packers take QB Collin Klein from Kansas State in the 7th Round (Compensatory)

Roster Breakdown
QB – Aaron Rodgers/Graham Harrell/BJ Coleman/Collin Klein
RB – DuJuan Harris/Mike Gillislee/James Starks/Alex Green/Brandon Saine
WR – Jordy Nelson/James Jones/Randall Cobb/Quinton Patton/Jeremy Ross/Jordan Shepard
TE – Jermichael Finley/DJ Williams/Andrew Quarless/Ryan Taylor
H-Back – DJ Williams *Replaces the FB Position
LT – Derek Sherrod/Bryan Bulaga/Marshall Newhouse
LG – TJ Lang/Don Barclay/Greg Van Roten/Joe Madsen
C – Evan Dietrich-Smith/Greg Van Roten/Joe Madsen
RG – Josh Sitton/Don Barclay/Greg Van Roten/Joes Madsen
RT – Bryan Bulaga/Marshall Newhouse/Derek Sherrod

DE – Ryan Pickett/Mike Neal/John Jenkins/CJ Wilson/Mike Daniels/Baker Steinkuhler/Jerel Worthy*
NT – BJ Raji/John Jenkins/Ryan Pickett
OLB – Clay Matthews/Chase Thomas/Dezman Moses/Brad Jones
ILB – Desmond Bishop/AJ Hawk/DJ Smith/Brad Jones/Terrell Manning/AJ Klein
OLB – Nick Perry/Chase Thomas/Dezman Moses/Brad Jones
CB – Tramon Williams, Sam Shields, Casey Hayward, Davon House
S – Charles Woodson, Jerron McMillian, MD Jennings
S – Morgan Burnett, Jerron McMillian, MD Jennings

*Pending Inury
-If Worthy is healthy, he is fully in the mix at the defensive line position.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty happy overall. Collin Klein almost ruins it though.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Klein isn't much of a quarterback, but he's a really good athlete. I'm not certain QB is his position moving forward in the NFL. Likely a receiver. It doesn't really matter what Klein wants to play, he is going to have to do it if he wants to play in the NFL. If you can't throw the ball, you can't play quarterback.

See Tim Tebow.

But I would be interested to see if he could be a wide receiver option and possible return specialist candidate. The guy is good in space and has pretty decent size and speed. He's elusive, but can he catch?

He could also serve as a quality guy on the PS. Let's face it, it's going to be VERY difficult for a 7th rounder to make the 53. Maybe he serves as the zone read QB on the PS when we play those types of teams. That's valuable alone.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2Bigby0 wrote:
Klein isn't much of a quarterback, but he's a really good athlete. I'm not certain QB is his position moving forward in the NFL. Likely a receiver. It doesn't really matter what Klein wants to play, he is going to have to do it if he wants to play in the NFL. If you can't throw the ball, you can't play quarterback.

See Tim Tebow.

But I would be interested to see if he could be a wide receiver option and possible return specialist candidate. The guy is good in space and has pretty decent size and speed. He's elusive, but can he catch?

He could also serve as a quality guy on the PS. Let's face it, it's going to be VERY difficult for a 7th rounder to make the 53. Maybe he serves as the zone read QB on the PS when we play those types of teams. That's valuable alone.

He's really not fast enough to play WR. According to some scouts I follow they don't think he's athletic or fluid enough to play WR/TE. Apparently he has no interest in playing anything but QB too.

As a PS guy for zone reads, sure. As a UDFA. Difference is small though.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This really isn't that bad but I really only have two bones to pick here. The first is the AJ Klein pick. I love it, but you're going to have to add Lattimore and maybe another ILB to the cut list to make room for him. We're PACKED at ILB, even if we let Francois go. The other bone, which is quite small actually, is the Shepard pick, I think Corey Fuller is a better pick there.

I'm also curious as to why you're letting Boykin go so quickly? He played pretty well when given the opportunities last year and I remember him making an extremely tough catch at one point extending a drive that eventually led to a TD.

Chase Thomas wouldn't be a DE, idk where you got that from but I don't really think he's a 3-4 OLB either. Patton's 40 time is fugly but I think he improves it at the combine.

The pick that kinda flies under the radar here is the Gillislee pick. I like the player, my only concern is whether or not he would fit our system, I hope he would because he seemed to find every way possible to get extra yards last year. Other than that, I'd add Slowpoke Williams to the restructure list. They really need to restructure his contract if he's going to stay here. Two horrendous years in a row shouldn't mean a player gets 8 mil a year...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCPackFan wrote:
This really isn't that bad but I really only have two bones to pick here. The first is the AJ Klein pick. I love it, but you're going to have to add Lattimore and maybe another ILB to the cut list to make room for him. We're PACKED at ILB, even if we let Francois go. The other bone, which is quite small actually, is the Shepard pick, I think Corey Fuller is a better pick there.

I'm also curious as to why you're letting Boykin go so quickly? He played pretty well when given the opportunities last year and I remember him making an extremely tough catch at one point extending a drive that eventually led to a TD.

Chase Thomas wouldn't be a DE, idk where you got that from but I don't really think he's a 3-4 OLB either. Patton's 40 time is fugly but I think he improves it at the combine.

The pick that kinda flies under the radar here is the Gillislee pick. I like the player, my only concern is whether or not he would fit our system, I hope he would because he seemed to find every way possible to get extra yards last year. Other than that, I'd add Slowpoke Williams to the restructure list. They really need to restructure his contract if he's going to stay here. Two horrendous years in a row shouldn't mean a player gets 8 mil a year...


Thanks for the feedback. To me, I don't really care what Patton's 40 time is because I think he's a really receiver. He's quick on his feet and has really good hands. As for Chase Thomas I meant he would be playing OLB. I meant DE/OLB as the 'hybrid' position.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotcha, I think Patton will fix his 40 time, but it's kinda hard to add a receiver with a 4.58 40 into the mix with 4 other guys that ALL run 4.4's

Not that I'm trying to change your mind, but what's your opinion on possibly drafting Okafor to be in a hybrid role as you suggested with Thomas? I like the idea. Just looking for an opinion here.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a huge fan of Okafor. In fact, he is probably the number 2 guy I want the Packers to take in the first besides Jenkins.

I think the more pass rushers you have, the better you are defensively with a 3-4 defense.

Reason I like Jenkins so much is his physical presence and his ability requires a double team. Having Jenkins, Pickett and Raji really would give us a stout line on first down.

I agree with you on Patton's speed and let's wait and see what he puts up at the combine. Patton is a nice possession type guy with a vertical presence. Speed is important at receiver, but it's no more important than route running ability, hands, and strength in my opinion. I think there are better options out there than Patton, I just think he's a safe pick.
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