I'll say what no one wants to say - TT is an average GM

2Bigby0 · Joined: 02 Mar 2008 Posts: 583

Maybe we could hire Jerry Angelo and get rid of the elephant in the room

Willink · Joined: 26 Nov 2007 Posts: 10975 Location: Albany, NY

I wish this forum was updated to new phbb standards

i'd 1 star neg rep OP

thought process is literally moronic

Does he mean TT is an average GM "right now"? Or in general? Why is Safety an "incomplete" if TT actually drafted Collins and had him play well for us? Was TT a better GM in 2005-2010 b/c safety was "pass" and then became average when Collins got injured?

TT is a general consesus top three GM. That isn't for lack of reason. If you're going to argue something contratrian you're gonna have to do a lot better than this. OP seems to suggest he knows more about building a championship team than the guy that actually accomplished such a goal.

Srsly this a very *2005* post.
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TheBitzMan · Joined: 21 Jan 2013 Posts: 74 Location: Chicago

You said you said it because you can, doesnt mean anyone else wants to say it. In fact is the exact opposite of sentiment, amongst knowledgable fans and people in the league.

He is highly respected and has done a great job. I do think some things are questionable, but far less than many other GMs around the league.

To say Clay is Clay is great, but dont forget that TT traded up to get him, but oh yeah its all luck.

Check your facts, TT is legit and we are lucky to have him.

Kampman74 · Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 5563

justo · Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:19 pm Post subject:

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CornOnDaCobb · Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Posts: 246 Location: Tampa, FL

I don't really think the talent on this time is a big issue, I think the issue moreso has to deal with luck and coaching IMO. in 2008, we were a good team methinks but we went 0-7 in games decided by 4 points or less and therefeore finished 6-10. In 2010 we went 10-6 with 16 guys on IR and still won the Super Bowl! I don't think people really understand that, we had a third of our team out for the season yet we still proved we were the best in the league, that is amazing! In 2011 we were great but we lost a key player in Nick Collins who had to retire. Thats like taking Earl Thomas off of the Seahawks or Eric Weddle off the Chargers, it was a huge and unfortunate loss. And then this past year, we still put up a very good team but we had some holes that were in positions that dealt with injuries, which we lead the league in games missed by starters (49ers were fewest by comparison). Our starting running back misses the year, we have a bad running game. Both of our offensive tackles are on the IR, Aaron Rodgers becomes the most sacked qb. Our pass rush struggles, 2 out of our 3 best pass rushers missed most of the year (Neal, Perry.) Strong safety was a hole, Woodson was out unit the playoffs. I think if we get a healthy team back next year we COULD very well be elite again, but I wouldn't doubt the talent just yet, I just think we need to stay healthy and see what highly drafted guys like Sherrod, Neal and Perry can do.

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ajhawk5047 · Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 876

Ladies and gentlemen, I think we've found TT's replacement.
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phillipraz · Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Posts: 2605 Location: Phoenix, AZ

Im a TT fan, however i do wish he would stray a bit from his FA beliefs. only real issue ive had with him is at the RB position where we just havent had the best of fortunes.

would be nice to see a nice FA signing that can really shake things around a bit but overall im happy with him.
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