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Bears54
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 Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:14 pm Post subject: Possible Slot WRs to sign this offseason!!!! |
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I know LB, OL, and TE are positions we need to address this offseason. Assuming we address those positions in free agency or via trade, I was concerned about our slot WR position.
I believe we need someone who can help Marshall and Cutler out and stretch the field for the rest of receiving core. I was looking at some possible free agents and possible slot WRs that we could trade for that wouldnt cost more than a 5th or 6th round pick in this years draft.
Let me start off by listing some big price tag WRs that would cost a good change of money but still a possiblilty we could sign them.
-Wes Welker
-Mike Wallace
-Greg Jennings
Now 2nd tier Slot WRs that would could sign that wouldnt break the bank and we could easily afford.
-Titus Young
- Danny Amendola
- Devone Bess (via trade/ 5th or 6th round pick)
- Kyle Williams -49ers (via trade/ 6th round pick)
With Hester looking for a fresh start possibly with a new team, Knox possibly never playing football again, Bennett being injuried the last 2 years, being a possesion WR, I think we need someone else. That just leaves Jeffery and Marshall.
If I had to pick someone from this group, not wanting to break the bank because of other positions that need to be addressed, my pick would be between Danny Amendola and Kyle Williams.
What do you guys think? |
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Madmike90
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| I would much rather draft a guy in the mid-to-late rounds to back up Bennett in the slot than spending money on these guys. |
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CBears019
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: Possible Slot WRs to sign this offseason!!!! |
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| Bears54 wrote: |
-Wes Welker
-Mike Wallace
-Greg Jennings
-Titus Young
- Danny Amendola
- Devone Bess (via trade/ 5th or 6th round pick)
- Kyle Williams -49ers (via trade/ 6th round pick)
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Like you said with the first 3, way too expensive. They would be great additions, but that would likely mean no more Henry Melton, who is far more important than a slot WR.
The other 4 - Young has been claimed and has more red flags than China, Amendola is reportedly looking for $6M+, and there's no reason to trade for the other two guys when we have so few draft picks to begin with.
I agree with MM90, let's just draft one of our own guys in the late rounds. I'm not opposed to signing a vet, just think it will end up costing too much considering we have more superior needs.
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Superman(DH23)
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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What is w/ everyone's obsession w/ replacing Bennett. There were 9, 9 #3 WRs who produced more than him this year
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DaMike
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | What is w/ everyone's obsession w/ replacing Bennett. There were 9, 9 #3 WRs who produced more than him this year |
9 slot receivers? |
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Superman(DH23)
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| DaMike wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | What is w/ everyone's obsession w/ replacing Bennett. There were 9, 9 #3 WRs who produced more than him this year |
9 slot receivers? |
9 #3 WRs. It rules out guys like Victor Cruz and Wes Welker who are #1s who spend most of their time in the slot to take advantage of matchups, but would completely screw the curve. The vast majority of #3 WRs produced w/in a 100 yards of each other right around where Bennett is.
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DaMike
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | What is w/ everyone's obsession w/ replacing Bennett. There were 9, 9 #3 WRs who produced more than him this year |
9 slot receivers? |
9 #3 WRs. It rules out guys like Victor Cruz and Wes Welker who are #1s who spend most of their time in the slot to take advantage of matchups, but would completely screw the curve. The vast majority of #3 WRs produced w/in a 100 yards of each other right around where Bennett is. |
Where does he rank when you factor in players who played the position he did? |
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Superman(DH23)
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| DaMike wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | What is w/ everyone's obsession w/ replacing Bennett. There were 9, 9 #3 WRs who produced more than him this year |
9 slot receivers? |
9 #3 WRs. It rules out guys like Victor Cruz and Wes Welker who are #1s who spend most of their time in the slot to take advantage of matchups, but would completely screw the curve. The vast majority of #3 WRs produced w/in a 100 yards of each other right around where Bennett is. |
Where does he rank when you factor in players who played the position he did? |
#9 since he played #3 WR. Unless you think there are more than 32 #3 WRs. Its not even close to an apples to apples comparison otherwise. You might as well ask to compare him to every WR in the NFL since every #1 and #2 in the NFL plays the slot as well.
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DaMike
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | What is w/ everyone's obsession w/ replacing Bennett. There were 9, 9 #3 WRs who produced more than him this year |
9 slot receivers? |
9 #3 WRs. It rules out guys like Victor Cruz and Wes Welker who are #1s who spend most of their time in the slot to take advantage of matchups, but would completely screw the curve. The vast majority of #3 WRs produced w/in a 100 yards of each other right around where Bennett is. |
Where does he rank when you factor in players who played the position he did? |
#9 since he played #3 WR. Unless you think there are more than 32 #3 WRs. Its not even close to an apples to apples comparison otherwise. You might as well ask to compare him to every WR in the NFL since every #1 and #2 in the NFL plays the slot as well. |
#3 WR isn't a position. The reason why a lot of teams put good receivers at the slot is because like you said it's a matchup advantage. Our guy isnt taking advantage of that. We could use a guy that can. |
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AZBearsFan
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| DaMike wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | What is w/ everyone's obsession w/ replacing Bennett. There were 9, 9 #3 WRs who produced more than him this year |
9 slot receivers? |
9 #3 WRs. It rules out guys like Victor Cruz and Wes Welker who are #1s who spend most of their time in the slot to take advantage of matchups, but would completely screw the curve. The vast majority of #3 WRs produced w/in a 100 yards of each other right around where Bennett is. |
Where does he rank when you factor in players who played the position he did? |
#9 since he played #3 WR. Unless you think there are more than 32 #3 WRs. Its not even close to an apples to apples comparison otherwise. You might as well ask to compare him to every WR in the NFL since every #1 and #2 in the NFL plays the slot as well. |
#3 WR isn't a position. The reason why a lot of teams put good receivers at the slot is because like you said it's a matchup advantage. Our guy isnt taking advantage of that. We could use a guy that can. |
Much of that last year was scheme. Tice didn't use what Bennett does best much at all (the short middle in patterns designed for YAC). The WCO is a perfect fit for the things Bennett does well. Bennett's production the prior few years under Martz which used many of the same shorter routes as Trestman will was more than adequate given his role.
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DaMike
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| AZBearsFan wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | What is w/ everyone's obsession w/ replacing Bennett. There were 9, 9 #3 WRs who produced more than him this year |
9 slot receivers? |
9 #3 WRs. It rules out guys like Victor Cruz and Wes Welker who are #1s who spend most of their time in the slot to take advantage of matchups, but would completely screw the curve. The vast majority of #3 WRs produced w/in a 100 yards of each other right around where Bennett is. |
Where does he rank when you factor in players who played the position he did? |
#9 since he played #3 WR. Unless you think there are more than 32 #3 WRs. Its not even close to an apples to apples comparison otherwise. You might as well ask to compare him to every WR in the NFL since every #1 and #2 in the NFL plays the slot as well. |
#3 WR isn't a position. The reason why a lot of teams put good receivers at the slot is because like you said it's a matchup advantage. Our guy isnt taking advantage of that. We could use a guy that can. |
Much of that last year was scheme. Tice didn't use what Bennett does best much at all (the short middle in patterns designed for YAC). The WCO is a perfect fit for the things Bennett does well. Bennett's production the prior few years under Martz which used many of the same shorter routes as Trestman will was more than adequate given his role. |
I agree that he seems to be a good fit. I don't want to invest a lot for another WR. I just think the 5 years of excuses for Bennett are getting to be a bit much. |
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Superman(DH23)
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| DaMike wrote: | | AZBearsFan wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | What is w/ everyone's obsession w/ replacing Bennett. There were 9, 9 #3 WRs who produced more than him this year |
9 slot receivers? |
9 #3 WRs. It rules out guys like Victor Cruz and Wes Welker who are #1s who spend most of their time in the slot to take advantage of matchups, but would completely screw the curve. The vast majority of #3 WRs produced w/in a 100 yards of each other right around where Bennett is. |
Where does he rank when you factor in players who played the position he did? |
#9 since he played #3 WR. Unless you think there are more than 32 #3 WRs. Its not even close to an apples to apples comparison otherwise. You might as well ask to compare him to every WR in the NFL since every #1 and #2 in the NFL plays the slot as well. |
#3 WR isn't a position. The reason why a lot of teams put good receivers at the slot is because like you said it's a matchup advantage. Our guy isnt taking advantage of that. We could use a guy that can. |
Much of that last year was scheme. Tice didn't use what Bennett does best much at all (the short middle in patterns designed for YAC). The WCO is a perfect fit for the things Bennett does well. Bennett's production the prior few years under Martz which used many of the same shorter routes as Trestman will was more than adequate given his role. |
I agree that he seems to be a good fit. I don't want to invest a lot for another WR. I just think the 5 years of excuses for Bennett are getting to be a bit much. |
What excuses? He had the 8th highest production for a #2 WR in 2009. He's produced every year to to the top half of WRs in his role. People expect no matter what role you play to be a 1000 yard WR, well that just doesn't happen to guys that aren't #1 WRs, which no one has ever claimed him to be. I've said the same thing about him since day 1, he's Bobby Ingram, and just like Ingram, people want to run him out of town.
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DaMike
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | AZBearsFan wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | What is w/ everyone's obsession w/ replacing Bennett. There were 9, 9 #3 WRs who produced more than him this year |
9 slot receivers? |
9 #3 WRs. It rules out guys like Victor Cruz and Wes Welker who are #1s who spend most of their time in the slot to take advantage of matchups, but would completely screw the curve. The vast majority of #3 WRs produced w/in a 100 yards of each other right around where Bennett is. |
Where does he rank when you factor in players who played the position he did? |
#9 since he played #3 WR. Unless you think there are more than 32 #3 WRs. Its not even close to an apples to apples comparison otherwise. You might as well ask to compare him to every WR in the NFL since every #1 and #2 in the NFL plays the slot as well. |
#3 WR isn't a position. The reason why a lot of teams put good receivers at the slot is because like you said it's a matchup advantage. Our guy isnt taking advantage of that. We could use a guy that can. |
Much of that last year was scheme. Tice didn't use what Bennett does best much at all (the short middle in patterns designed for YAC). The WCO is a perfect fit for the things Bennett does well. Bennett's production the prior few years under Martz which used many of the same shorter routes as Trestman will was more than adequate given his role. |
I agree that he seems to be a good fit. I don't want to invest a lot for another WR. I just think the 5 years of excuses for Bennett are getting to be a bit much. |
What excuses? He had the 8th highest production for a #2 WR in 2009. He's produced every year to to the top half of WRs in his role. People expect no matter what role you play to be a 1000 yard WR, well that just doesn't happen to guys that aren't #1 WRs, which no one has ever claimed him to be. I've said the same thing about him since day 1, he's Bobby Ingram, and just like Ingram, people want to run him out of town. |
His production has gone down every year. Every year people say "this is his year" "this year he will breakout" Then every year his production drops. He has the easiest matchhup of all our WRs. Slot receivers can produce a lot more then he does. |
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Superman(DH23)
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| DaMike wrote: | | His production has gone down every year. Every year people say "this is his year" "this year he will breakout" Then every year his production drops. He has the easiest matchhup of all our WRs. Slot receivers can produce a lot more then he does. |
His production went down from 2009 to 2010 b/c he went from being a starter to having to fight his way up from the depth chart. He also played in 2 less games. From 2010 to 2011 he played in 3 less games due to a potentially fatal injury, and was 3rd on the team in catches. His production in 2012 was damn near identical to 2011 (6 yards difference). No excuses need to be made, but I'm just reasonable I guess...
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DaMike
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | DaMike wrote: | | His production has gone down every year. Every year people say "this is his year" "this year he will breakout" Then every year his production drops. He has the easiest matchhup of all our WRs. Slot receivers can produce a lot more then he does. |
His production went down from 2009 to 2010 b/c he went from being a starter to having to fight his way up from the depth chart. He also played in 2 less games. From 2010 to 2011 he played in 3 less games due to a potentially fatal injury, and was 3rd on the team in catches. His production in 2012 was damn near identical to 2011 (6 yards difference). No excuses need to be made, but I'm just reasonable I guess... |
Actually bringing up the injuries in an excuse. We can get 400 yards and 2 TDs out of a min contract guy. I personally think we should keep Bennett but if the team feels they want more production from that position you can't blame them. |
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