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b_rent87


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:14 pm    Post subject: DE rankings for Denver Reply with quote

After watching tape here is how I rank the DE class for Denver

1. Moore
2. Werner
3. Ansah
4. Carradine
5. Okafor
6. Mingo
7. Jones
8. Hunt
9. Montgomery
10. Lemioner
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:19 pm    Post subject: Re: DE rankings for Denver Reply with quote

b_rent87 wrote:
After watching tape here is how I rank the DE class for Denver

1. Moore
2. Werner
3. Ansah
4. Carradine
5. Okafor
6. Mingo
7. Jones
8. Hunt
9. Montgomery
10. Lemioner


Why even rank Mingo and Jones, they're both strictly OLB's based on their size alone. And why you have Ziggy Ansah below Moore and Werner is strange to me.

1. Ziggy Ansah
2. Margus Hunt
3. Datone Jones
4. Bojern Werner
T-4. Tank Carradine
5. Alex Okafor
6. Demontre Moore
7. Montgomery
8. Lemioner

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is based off tape how you can rank ansah above those two on what counts which is tape is beyond me and jones is datone. You appear to be big on athletic numbers with your first two which Moore out produced both of them by himself.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

b_rent87 wrote:
This is based off tape how you can rank ansah above those two on what counts which is tape is beyond me and jones is datone. You appear to be big on athletic numbers with your first two which Moore out produced both of them by himself.


This is based off "your evaluation" of tape, first off. I've seen tape and watched most of them work out but I should have mentioned my list is based on common sense, value, and potential.

I didn't even notice you failed to rank Dion Jordan. Why you included Jones, and Mingo but not Jordan is beyond me. He also fits at 3-4 OLB but if anyone of those 3 was going to play DE it'd be the 6'6-250 pound Jordan, not the tweeners.

I may be a little quick to anoint Ansah over Moore and Werner but he's the consensus #1 DE in the draft. And I've watched tape of Hunt and I think he fits with us and has more potential then any of the other prospects.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What we have with Moore is something that is pretty rare usually we have a young player who is extremely athletic but lacks production with Moore we have a young player who produced above expectations in the best division in college football but lacks the athletic ability that some say he will require to be successful in the NFL. I believe Moore can produce at the next level. I wouldn't take any de from this class top 20
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tape and production are common sense my friend.
I like ansah hes third on my list but I still would choose the other two over him I care little for who says he's the number one De in the class the consensus has been wrong before. Moore was the consensus number one before the combine so consensus is pointless. I didn't put Jordan on the list because I was only putting guys who played mostly with her hand down in college.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to go watch tape of Moore right now. But I just looked at him on NFL.com and they specifically compared him to current NFL player Robert Ayers.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm going to go watch tape of Moore right now. But I just looked at him on NFL.com and they specifically compared him to current NFL player Robert Ayers.
That's a ridiculous comparison on their part. Look at the size difference and Ayers played some DT in college. That might be one of the worst comparisons I've seen.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And to be fair I should of included Jordan as Moore did rush standing up also
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

b_rent87 wrote:
PackAtBroncos07 wrote:
I'm going to go watch tape of Moore right now. But I just looked at him on NFL.com and they specifically compared him to current NFL player Robert Ayers.
That's a ridiculous comparison on their part. Look at the size difference and Ayers played some DT in college. That might be one of the worst comparisons I've seen.
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The only player that compares to Robert Ayers in this draft is Alex Okafor. Who had MUCH better production.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watch his tape against Bama and tell me what you think. I would like to see him get stronger but in his first year if we were to draft him I would use him as a Pr specialist and have Ayers start until he bulked up
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Datone Jones reminds me more of Ayers than even Okafor I see Jones floor as Ayers and ceiling as Tuck for a quick comparison
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

b_rent87 wrote:
Watch his tape against Bama and tell me what you think. I would like to see him get stronger but in his first year if we were to draft him I would use him as a Pr specialist and have Ayers start until he bulked up


First 2 plays:

1. He gives up backside contain in an attempt to get a new angle at the runner. Lacy almost breaks it back up the right for like a 30+ yard gain.

2. He runs pasts the QB where he is double teamed by the tackle and RB, QB steps up and gains 4 yards on a run.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PackAtBroncos07 wrote:
b_rent87 wrote:
Watch his tape against Bama and tell me what you think. I would like to see him get stronger but in his first year if we were to draft him I would use him as a Pr specialist and have Ayers start until he bulked up


First 2 plays:

1. He gives up backside contain in an attempt to get a new angle at the runner. Lacy almost breaks it back up the right for like a 30+ yard gain.

2. He runs pasts the QB where he is double teamed by the tackle and RB, QB steps up and gains 4 yards on a run.
I wasn't saying it was his best tape it was the best team he played against. He flushed the Qb to where his teammates should of been on that second play
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He ran down the line on the first play it is unsure if containment was even his responsibility on the play but he was unblocked and his lineman came crashing down he shouldn't have come so flat but he was doing his job
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