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detfan782004 
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| ugLymayNe wrote: | | Honestly I wouldn't care if the Packers picked him up because he is talented and can make plays if his head is on straight. Going to an offensive team with strong quality leadership would be good for him, it would be a drastic change from what he is used to. |
Yea because Calvin, Nate, Scheffler etc aren't good quality leaders. Give it a rest. This is borderline trolling
Another questionable Mayhew move it seems. Glad they avoided character issues last draft at least _________________
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Eagles $5$ 
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Amazingly, the Lions probably need to draft another WR again this year. _________________
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tylerdouglass 
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| detfan782004 wrote: | | ugLymayNe wrote: | | Honestly I wouldn't care if the Packers picked him up because he is talented and can make plays if his head is on straight. Going to an offensive team with strong quality leadership would be good for him, it would be a drastic change from what he is used to. |
Yea because Calvin, Nate, Scheffler etc aren't good quality leaders. Give it a rest. This is borderline trolling |
No it's not. It's absolutely fair to question the Lions leadership after the off season they had. _________________
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MARIO MANGELINI
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:16 am Post subject: |
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Am I the only one that wouldn't be mad if my team picked him up......? _________________ [quote="aceinthehouse"]
I have Seattle finishing no better...than 8-8 next [2013] season.
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X_Factor_40 
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| tylerdouglass wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | ugLymayNe wrote: | | Honestly I wouldn't care if the Packers picked him up because he is talented and can make plays if his head is on straight. Going to an offensive team with strong quality leadership would be good for him, it would be a drastic change from what he is used to. |
Yea because Calvin, Nate, Scheffler etc aren't good quality leaders. Give it a rest. This is borderline trolling |
No it's not. It's absolutely fair to question the Lions leadership after the off season they had. |
No one is going to control grown men who decide to do stupid stuff. I don't think it has anything to do with "leadership". If people are going to go out and do stupid stuff they're going to do it. The Lions have quite a few good leaders on the roster, but they also have a few immature, stupid guys who got into some stupid stuff. No amount of leadership is going to stop mistakes like that. If it's going to happen it's going to happen until those players grow up or move on. The criticism should fall on Mayhew for drafting players who have issues. _________________
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tylerdouglass 
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:20 am Post subject: |
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| X_Factor_40 wrote: | | tylerdouglass wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | ugLymayNe wrote: | | Honestly I wouldn't care if the Packers picked him up because he is talented and can make plays if his head is on straight. Going to an offensive team with strong quality leadership would be good for him, it would be a drastic change from what he is used to. |
Yea because Calvin, Nate, Scheffler etc aren't good quality leaders. Give it a rest. This is borderline trolling |
No it's not. It's absolutely fair to question the Lions leadership after the off season they had. |
No one is going to control grown men who decide to do stupid stuff. I don't think it has anything to do with "leadership". If people are going to go out and do stupid stuff they're going to do it. The Lions have quite a few good leaders on the roster, but they also have a few immature, stupid guys who got into some stupid stuff. No amount of leadership is going to stop mistakes like that. If it's going to happen it's going to happen until those players grow up or move on. The criticism should fall on Mayhew for drafting players who have issues. |
See, all that stuff is your opinion. That's a fine opinion to have, and I don't necessarily disagree with you. However, the point I was making was completely overlooked. My point is, questioning or blaming the leadership of the Lions for some of their off the field issues is a differing opinion, but it isn't trolling.
This is always a problem on FF. People say something negative and people come in calling them trolls. It's been said time and time again, that if someone is trolling, PM a mod and let them deal with it. Calling someone a troll is a form of an attack and may end up being worse than what they said in the first place. _________________
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X_Factor_40 
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:01 am Post subject: |
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| tylerdouglass wrote: | | X_Factor_40 wrote: | | tylerdouglass wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | ugLymayNe wrote: | | Honestly I wouldn't care if the Packers picked him up because he is talented and can make plays if his head is on straight. Going to an offensive team with strong quality leadership would be good for him, it would be a drastic change from what he is used to. |
Yea because Calvin, Nate, Scheffler etc aren't good quality leaders. Give it a rest. This is borderline trolling |
No it's not. It's absolutely fair to question the Lions leadership after the off season they had. |
No one is going to control grown men who decide to do stupid stuff. I don't think it has anything to do with "leadership". If people are going to go out and do stupid stuff they're going to do it. The Lions have quite a few good leaders on the roster, but they also have a few immature, stupid guys who got into some stupid stuff. No amount of leadership is going to stop mistakes like that. If it's going to happen it's going to happen until those players grow up or move on. The criticism should fall on Mayhew for drafting players who have issues. |
See, all that stuff is your opinion. That's a fine opinion to have, and I don't necessarily disagree with you. However, the point I was making was completely overlooked. My point is, questioning or blaming the leadership of the Lions for some of their off the field issues is a differing opinion, but it isn't trolling.
This is always a problem on FF. People say something negative and people come in calling them trolls. It's been said time and time again, that if someone is trolling, PM a mod and let them deal with it. Calling someone a troll is a form of an attack and may end up being worse than what they said in the first place. |
Any talk about leadership is based on opinion, so that can go both ways. Blaming the actions of a few on the leadership of an entire team is a poor argument, though. You can't control the actions of others.
I wasn't commenting on the trolling issue. I have no problem with what you said about that. _________________
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tylerdouglass 
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| X_Factor_40 wrote: | | I wasn't commenting on the trolling issue. I have no problem with what you said about that. |
And I wasn't commenting on the Lions leadership, more or less commenting on the act of commenting on the leadership. Although I can see how what I said could easily be misinterpreted.  _________________

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jrry32
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Some team will be dumb enough to pick him up. _________________
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buno67 
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:44 am Post subject: |
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| tylerdouglass wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | ugLymayNe wrote: | | Honestly I wouldn't care if the Packers picked him up because he is talented and can make plays if his head is on straight. Going to an offensive team with strong quality leadership would be good for him, it would be a drastic change from what he is used to. |
Yea because Calvin, Nate, Scheffler etc aren't good quality leaders. Give it a rest. This is borderline trolling |
No it's not. It's absolutely fair to question the Lions leadership after the off season they had. |
I completely agree with the lions lack of leadership. Leadership doesnt begin and stop at the WR position. It doesnt matter if you have Johnson, Nate, and etc. You have poor leadership at the most important position in the NFL and that HC. Schwartz showed his lack of leadership when he made a fool of himself with that whole handshake at mid field debacle. Also if the leadership is so great in Detroit then why the hell is Suh such a dirty player. If you had great leaders they would of gotten to him by now that the crap he pulls on the field will cost the team games if he gets suspended for a couple games for doing something stupid.
im sorry if you have a player with character issues but the team doesnt fully address controlling its players properly its gonna trickle down. Coach acts like a schmuck and what a surprise some of his players do too...
if your an overweight person and you are trying to diet...how success are you gonna be at the change if you are surround by chocolate cake and french fries... you success rate for change is going to be low. titus young was not in a good situation in Detroit _________________
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lards 
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:51 am Post subject: |
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| MARIO MANGELINI wrote: | | Am I the only one that wouldn't be mad if my team picked him up......? |
well we definitely need a deep threat and we could sign this guy for cheap and use the draft to improve our D. imo i think he is worth the risk since we can just cut his arse at the first sign of trouble. but i completely understand fellow hawk fans who disagree. _________________
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Shorty McFast
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:22 am Post subject: |
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Titus Young to Green Bay PLEASE!
You think Aaron Rodgers had problems with his teammates this year? Lets add Titus Young to that quality leadership over there. LOL |
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Dr. Philly
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:25 am Post subject: |
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| Eagles $5$ wrote: | | Amazingly, the Lions probably need to draft another WR again this year. |
Not necessarily, they got Megatron, Broyles and Mike Thomas, that's a solid trio, but the loss of young will hurt _________________
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iPwn 
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:32 am Post subject: |
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| Dr. Philly wrote: | | Eagles $5$ wrote: | | Amazingly, the Lions probably need to draft another WR again this year. |
Not necessarily, they got Megatron, Broyles and Mike Thomas, that's a solid trio, but the loss of young will hurt | Thomas is awful. _________________
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Eagles $5$ 
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:47 am Post subject: |
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| Dr. Philly wrote: | | Eagles $5$ wrote: | | Amazingly, the Lions probably need to draft another WR again this year. |
Not necessarily, they got Megatron, Broyles and Mike Thomas, that's a solid trio, but the loss of young will hurt |
Broyles is coming back from an torn ACL (for the 2nd time in his career) and Thomas isn't very good. _________________
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