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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:40 am    Post subject: Abraham, Turner could be released to create salary cap space Reply with quote

http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/football/abraham-turner-could-be-released-create-salary-cap/nWFsr/

D. Orlando is not the most credible Falcons source although he is around the team but this would be interesting. If Abe is cut do we trade our pick to go down and select 2 DE's in the 2nd round? FA DE?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off this would be nice.

Second thing, I think we get a DE in round one and maybe round 3, but no way we trade down IMO. I wouldn't mind getting a FA DE either.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) we aren't cutting Abe
2) D-led's Numbers have always and will always be off. Pat Yasinskas and I have a much better handle on teh Falcons cap situation and I've talked with Pat about it. DOL has always been horrible when talking about the business side because he doesn't understand the cap and comes up with these calcs on his own instead of verifying through sources.

3) Turner is gone.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scar988 wrote:
1) we aren't cutting Abe
2) D-led's Numbers have always and will always be off. Pat Yasinskas and I have a much better handle on teh Falcons cap situation and I've talked with Pat about it. DOL has always been horrible when talking about the business side because he doesn't understand the cap and comes up with these calcs on his own instead of verifying through sources.

3) Turner is gone.


I hadn't done the math yet but his numbers did seem quite a bit off. If you have a current cap breakdown or plan to do one in the future, let us know.

No way we can cut Abe. Doesn't make any sense to me.

Turner will be cut but might be resigned for less. I hope not. I'm ready to move on.

Have no idea if Grimes is in playing shape yet or what he's thinking. Regardless, he won't make a lot of money next year.

Dunta Robinson could be cut. That's far more likely than Abe.

Matt Ryan should be re-signed. It'll be a big deal but they'll be creative with the cap room in the short term.

They need to re-sign Moore but it could get costly with his Pro Bowl appearance. I'm a little worried about it.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are D Led's numbers if you are wondering:

http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/atlanta-falcons/2013/feb/04/heres-look-falcons-under-contract-2013/
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tech2186 wrote:
Here are D Led's numbers if you are wondering:

http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/atlanta-falcons/2013/feb/04/heres-look-falcons-under-contract-2013/
yeah, those are WAYYYY off.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cut Abe(our ONLY pass rusher) after he took less money to stay in Atl? Doesnt make any sense whatsoever. Not his fault he got injured in a MEANINGLESS game. Cant see that happening. Now Turner, on the other hand, probably has his bags packed already.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you imagine the pass rush without Abe?

O/U 5 team sacks on the year?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swoosh wrote:
Could you imagine the pass rush without Abe?

O/U 5 team sacks on the year?
Hope they meant to say Dunte, and not Abe. Sort of sounds the same. They both have the loooooooong A sound. Laughing Robinson could be replaced WAY easier than Abraham. Have you seen this dude trying to run down wide recievers?? Not a pretty sight.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scar988 wrote:
Pat Yasinskas and I have a much better handle on teh Falcons cap situation .


I wouldn't say that at all. You were wrong with your cap numbers on Dunta as well as thinking Ryan will only get a 10 million signing bonus on any contract extension.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You also have to find out if Abe reached his escalators is salary guaranteed
than it would make no sense to release Abe. It still doesnt regardless and Abe wont be going anywhere unless Nolan is dead dead on switching to a 3-4 scheme
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turner should be released. Abraham still has gas left in the tank. He is still a quality starter and acts as a mentor for younger DEs on the roster and soon to be on the roster
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swift924 wrote:
scar988 wrote:
Pat Yasinskas and I have a much better handle on teh Falcons cap situation .


I wouldn't say that at all. You were wrong with your cap numbers on Dunta as well as thinking Ryan will only get a 10 million signing bonus on any contract extension.
seriously dude. don't quote anything I post. don't talk to me here period. You only talk to me to either troll me or personal attack me and that doesn't fly here.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scar988 wrote:
Swift924 wrote:
scar988 wrote:
Pat Yasinskas and I have a much better handle on teh Falcons cap situation .


I wouldn't say that at all. You were wrong with your cap numbers on Dunta as well as thinking Ryan will only get a 10 million signing bonus on any contract extension.
seriously dude. don't quote anything I post. don't talk to me here period. You only talk to me to either troll me or personal attack me and that doesn't fly here.


Don't see how that is trolling. I was just pointing out you have been wrong with the cap. Also that is not a personal attack.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You posted that I have been wrong. With one person. That's it. Overall, I have a much better handle than DOL. And those were the words I used. So stop. Seriously. You are trolling.
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